masterganja
New Member
yeah your right
CFL Tutorial
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Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
Correct!! Called red and blue spectrums.
Da Superman
Member
Very help full to me first post ive been able to find that explains cfl keep up the good work 
my god those look good i really wanna finish making the bubbleponics thing like u have....i already had started making a cloner...using almost the same idea but instead of puttin those tubes straight inside the hydroton in the baskets i was just using sprayer heads to spray all the roots at once...but now that iv seen urs iv changed my mind and am now gonna find that irragation splitter valve thingy...and get some more tubing and do the same thing u did...i really love that idea...has it worked out great for u? not many problems or anything?
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
For CLONING, I use a www.stealthhydro.com MYSTIC CLONER. It is a TOTE or tank with 18 holes, with neoprene rubber stoppers in each hole with a slit cut in them. In the tank is a FOGGER, that makes FOG or a thick Constant MIST inside the tank. I get roots visible in 4 days and CLONES ready to start growing with long roots within 7 to 10 days. (Pet Smart sells the foggers for reptiles and turtles)
I did not buy the Mystic Cloner, it was given to me , to write a review about. It works great, it is very fast, but everytime I grow with CLONES, I get smaller plants than if I start with seeds.
I 'm always a little embarrassed to tell how many lights I use, it is OVERKILL. In a walk in clsoet, (see my pics) I have two or three tanks, or two tanks and one or two 5 gallon buckets, in a 2 X 10 foot long closet, and I use 4 105s, 4 85s, 4 65s, and four reflectors with two 42 watt bulbs in each = 20 bulbs. I start 18 plants under them.
I did not buy the Mystic Cloner, it was given to me , to write a review about. It works great, it is very fast, but everytime I grow with CLONES, I get smaller plants than if I start with seeds.
I 'm always a little embarrassed to tell how many lights I use, it is OVERKILL. In a walk in clsoet, (see my pics) I have two or three tanks, or two tanks and one or two 5 gallon buckets, in a 2 X 10 foot long closet, and I use 4 105s, 4 85s, 4 65s, and four reflectors with two 42 watt bulbs in each = 20 bulbs. I start 18 plants under them.
itsgrowinglikeaweed
Well-Known Member
This is front page material. TY Roseman.
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
oxyhydro,
That was answered on the front page, but I'll break it down for you.
2 X 2 = 4 Square Feet.
Light seen and perceived with the human eye is measured in Lumens. There is an ideal amount of lumens for growing and a minimum amount of required lumens. The very minimum amount of light required for smaller sized plants grown is around 3000 lumens per square foot. Let me put emphasis on "minimum amount" of light. However, that's not 100% exactly accurate, since although you may have a 10,000 lumen light, the amount of light that reaches the plant varies with the distance between the light and plants, and the reflectivity of the grow area. The ideal amount is somewhere around 7000-10,000 lumens per square foot for average sized plants. As long as the plants do not show burn, as much light can be used as you want to use. (Note, the sun produces about 10,000 lumens per square foot, on a sunny mid- summer day). Contracy to "talk" you CAN have too much light.
You need a minimum of 28,000, up to 40,000.
CFLs average 65 lumens per watt.
You need at least 430 watts total for good performance. Of course you can
get by with much less, or a little more.
That was answered on the front page, but I'll break it down for you.
2 X 2 = 4 Square Feet.
Light seen and perceived with the human eye is measured in Lumens. There is an ideal amount of lumens for growing and a minimum amount of required lumens. The very minimum amount of light required for smaller sized plants grown is around 3000 lumens per square foot. Let me put emphasis on "minimum amount" of light. However, that's not 100% exactly accurate, since although you may have a 10,000 lumen light, the amount of light that reaches the plant varies with the distance between the light and plants, and the reflectivity of the grow area. The ideal amount is somewhere around 7000-10,000 lumens per square foot for average sized plants. As long as the plants do not show burn, as much light can be used as you want to use. (Note, the sun produces about 10,000 lumens per square foot, on a sunny mid- summer day). Contracy to "talk" you CAN have too much light.
You need a minimum of 28,000, up to 40,000.
CFLs average 65 lumens per watt.
You need at least 430 watts total for good performance. Of course you can
get by with much less, or a little more.
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
did you read the posts on previosu page?
6 X 26 = 156 watts, LESS than HALF of what you need .
You need a minimum of 28,000, up to 40,000 lumens for your space.
CFLs average 65 lumens per watt.
You need at least 430 watts total for good performance. Of course you can
get by with much less, or a little more.
You have enough to keep it alive, but not enough to Thrive or Grow much.
42s are cheap at Walmart and Lowes and Home Depot, like $7 to $ 9 each, and thopse 65 watts are jsut $16 each at Lowes or Walmart.
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
Thank you, I'm just paying it forwards and paying it back too.Very good & passionate informationI have lots to read and learn. Please keep that passion to give good info.
hey just wondering is this a good set up to get as a fixture, not saying the bulbs are good but the fixture itself http://cgi.ebay.com/2-48-T5-HO-2x54w-current-light-fixture_W0QQitemZ220445136375QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item33538dd5f7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A2|294%3A50
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
I ordered two new CFL bulbs today, from:
CHEAP CFLS < a link
I paid $29.95 each, for 200 watt bulbs, and they were $68 with shipping:
Shipping Status Qty Item Price Not yet shipped 2CF-200 - 200w Fluorescent $59.98 Shipping & Handling (Continental U.S.) :$8.40 Tax (GA) :$0.00 Total:$68.38
I found 65 and 68 watt CFLs at Lowes and Home Depot for $16.95 each, regualr sockets or moguls.
Can anyone find cheaper CFLs anywhere? any wattage?
Look here: 200 watt CFL, $78 < NOT cheap!!! I paid less than half of that.
CHEAP CFLS < a link
I paid $29.95 each, for 200 watt bulbs, and they were $68 with shipping:
Shipping Status Qty Item Price Not yet shipped 2CF-200 - 200w Fluorescent $59.98 Shipping & Handling (Continental U.S.) :$8.40 Tax (GA) :$0.00 Total:$68.38
I found 65 and 68 watt CFLs at Lowes and Home Depot for $16.95 each, regualr sockets or moguls.
Can anyone find cheaper CFLs anywhere? any wattage?
Look here: 200 watt CFL, $78 < NOT cheap!!! I paid less than half of that.
Chase1126
New Member
It is common knowledge that plants absorb warm and cool spectrum of light throughout its life. But I find that the importance of mixed lighting is understressed throughout the growing community.
During the flowering phase of a plants life. Warm light is better utilized to increase the size of a marijuana plants buds. As CFL growers we tend to pile up on 2700k bulbs to increase our yield. In most cases, growers assume that warm light not only grants us larger buds, but insures that those buds are of connoisseur quality as well. This is not to say that one can not achieve a very successful crop off of pure warm spectrum lighting. We see it all the time as members of the RIU community. But as CFL growers, almost all of us demand a higher efficiency for our dollar.
So what does this mean? Clearly I'm trying to emphasize the necessity of cool lighting during the flowering phase of a marijuana plants life. But why? Well thats simple. As many of you may have heard or read before, Cool lighting (6500k) introduces a UVB spectrum that benefits the potency of the buds our plants are producing.
" The writer's own experience allow for a more specific conclusion: If the UVB photon is missing from the light stream(a), or the intensity as expressed in µW/cm2 falls below a certain level(b), the phytochemical process will not be completely energized with only UVA photons which are more penetrating but less energetic, and the harvested resin spheres will have mostly precursor compounds and not fully realized THC(c). " (http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/thc.html)
Now it would be completely unreasonable to ask a grower using a 1000watt HPS to switch out for MH lighting even though it produces quality of the weed. Sticking with blue spectrum lighting in a plants flowering phase would greatly decrease the size of the buds and the yield of the plant. People using high wattage systems tend to grow for cash crop. No single person really needs a pound of weed.
" Metal halide produce the best potent weed less lumens for the money but better smoke. After years of testing with some friends who did want to keep THEIR recipe (more hps) i foung there weed to be harsh, full of CBD, make me eat and sleep, only good to sell to someone else taht you dislike. The blue spectrum will give you a final product that have everything included :taste without curing, potency and yield, To be effective a ratio of 2 MH for 1 hps at the most.(hps) Hps alone can produce a cash crop but not a connaisseur crop.
Et Voila... " (https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/36368-trichomes-thc-uvb-light.html)
For lower wattage growers who grow for self use, and are not on a low budget, it would be beneficial to replace their HPS with an MH for the last week or two of budding. This is because the last weeks of a plants life before harvesting is dedicated to the ripening of the buds, and not the growth of the bud itself. It would not greatly impact the yield of the plant, but have a great effect on the quality. Interesting, but this only applies to a few amount of growers that fit this category.
As CFL growers, we would be fools to ignore such information. It is astonishing that so many fantastic growers to not utilize cool lighting even to a small supplemental degree. We owe it to our selfs to scrounge up a few bucks in change and take a drive to Home Depot. Buy a pack of 6500k bulbs (26watts tend to be popular) and set them somewhere not far off from your buds. Don't let your hard work return with unsatisfaction. Added quality with increased quantity(more light). Mixed lighting should be standard knowledge, not found in the advanced cultivation section.
Side Note: Reptile lighting found at pet stores is not ideal for UVB lighting. Yes they do emit a high % of UVB than regular CFLs but they output less light and emit over 12x more UVA light than UVB light which can harm your plant.
(https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/211215-importance-mixed-lighting.html)
During the flowering phase of a plants life. Warm light is better utilized to increase the size of a marijuana plants buds. As CFL growers we tend to pile up on 2700k bulbs to increase our yield. In most cases, growers assume that warm light not only grants us larger buds, but insures that those buds are of connoisseur quality as well. This is not to say that one can not achieve a very successful crop off of pure warm spectrum lighting. We see it all the time as members of the RIU community. But as CFL growers, almost all of us demand a higher efficiency for our dollar.
So what does this mean? Clearly I'm trying to emphasize the necessity of cool lighting during the flowering phase of a marijuana plants life. But why? Well thats simple. As many of you may have heard or read before, Cool lighting (6500k) introduces a UVB spectrum that benefits the potency of the buds our plants are producing.
" The writer's own experience allow for a more specific conclusion: If the UVB photon is missing from the light stream(a), or the intensity as expressed in µW/cm2 falls below a certain level(b), the phytochemical process will not be completely energized with only UVA photons which are more penetrating but less energetic, and the harvested resin spheres will have mostly precursor compounds and not fully realized THC(c). " (http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/thc.html)
Now it would be completely unreasonable to ask a grower using a 1000watt HPS to switch out for MH lighting even though it produces quality of the weed. Sticking with blue spectrum lighting in a plants flowering phase would greatly decrease the size of the buds and the yield of the plant. People using high wattage systems tend to grow for cash crop. No single person really needs a pound of weed.
" Metal halide produce the best potent weed less lumens for the money but better smoke. After years of testing with some friends who did want to keep THEIR recipe (more hps) i foung there weed to be harsh, full of CBD, make me eat and sleep, only good to sell to someone else taht you dislike. The blue spectrum will give you a final product that have everything included :taste without curing, potency and yield, To be effective a ratio of 2 MH for 1 hps at the most.(hps) Hps alone can produce a cash crop but not a connaisseur crop.
Et Voila... " (https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/36368-trichomes-thc-uvb-light.html)
For lower wattage growers who grow for self use, and are not on a low budget, it would be beneficial to replace their HPS with an MH for the last week or two of budding. This is because the last weeks of a plants life before harvesting is dedicated to the ripening of the buds, and not the growth of the bud itself. It would not greatly impact the yield of the plant, but have a great effect on the quality. Interesting, but this only applies to a few amount of growers that fit this category.
As CFL growers, we would be fools to ignore such information. It is astonishing that so many fantastic growers to not utilize cool lighting even to a small supplemental degree. We owe it to our selfs to scrounge up a few bucks in change and take a drive to Home Depot. Buy a pack of 6500k bulbs (26watts tend to be popular) and set them somewhere not far off from your buds. Don't let your hard work return with unsatisfaction. Added quality with increased quantity(more light). Mixed lighting should be standard knowledge, not found in the advanced cultivation section.
Side Note: Reptile lighting found at pet stores is not ideal for UVB lighting. Yes they do emit a high % of UVB than regular CFLs but they output less light and emit over 12x more UVA light than UVB light which can harm your plant.
(https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/211215-importance-mixed-lighting.html)
Roseman
Elite Rolling Society
Mogul To Standard Bulb Adapter Other Stores: $9.99
Sale Price: $5.99
You Save: $4.00
at : http://growwurks.com/fluorescent-grow-lights.aspx
Their bulbs are not that cheap
nikk
Active Member
roseman my main man,i always wanted to ask you something,its a 2 part question,what is the highest yield you've gotten off of one plant?,and did you ever just grow one plant with all the lights you own?
i want to know because my next grow im just gonna focus all of my energy into one plant and since i idolize you for what youve accomplished,i wanted to know if it was worth me growing just one
i want to know because my next grow im just gonna focus all of my energy into one plant and since i idolize you for what youve accomplished,i wanted to know if it was worth me growing just one