CBD: The Truth Be Told

Huel Perkins

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I have some Cannatonic that tested at over 16% CBD and less than 1% THC and it still definitely delivers a high although it is definitely different from typical THC rich strains. I'm wondering since this strain is so low in THC, which cannabinoids are actually attributing to the high. I know CBD alone doesn't get you high but due to how this strain effects me I'm fairly certain that CBD does in fact produce a high with other cannabinoids.
 

vilify

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I agree with everything on here other than the "highest cbd" strains you listed.
unless you have some numbers to back this, i will remain skeptical.
 

Huel Perkins

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not at all. to OP. guess i should have explained that.

ive been wanting to pheno search cannatonic. have seen quite a few 12+ cbd tests with cannatonic.
If that is your plan and you're starting from seed you can actually test leaf material while plans are still in veg to determine if you have the high CBD pheno.
 
Wow no woner I love my mango fruity sativas!! What Ive discovered is that the monoterpenes and cannabinoids have an almost synergist and antagonist realtionship together same as cannabnioids themselves. Also mentioned earlier myrcene and also unmentioned limolene (lemon terpene) in "my experience" does really seem to boost the upity efects of thc! Where as lavendar and camphor containing strains are quite the oposite and sedative! Reason being the high amounts of a-terpinene and and 1,8 cineole, and monoterpene alcohols' linalool and perillyl alcohol, which all induce severe sedation and couchlock. Heres somethin I found on the net~~~~
Spike Lavender contains Monoterpene Hydrocarbons (more than 10%): α- and β-pinenes, (+)-camphene, limonene; Monoterpene Alcohols: linalöl, terpinen-4-ol, α-terpineol, borneol, citronellol, nerol, lavandulol, geraniol; Sesquiterpene Hydrocarbons (more than 3%): β-caryophyllene, β-bisabolene; Esters (more than 2%): linalyl acetate; Ketones: camphor; Oxides (more than 35%): 1.8 cineole. Percentages of camphor and 1.8 cineole vary; Portuguese varieties have up to 70% camphor; 1.8 cineol dominates north of Provence.
~~~ Wow thats alot of sleepy terpenes.. :) Lilac, lillies, and lavendar are all common ingredients in "night time" baby lotions. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why purple kush is so sleepy!! The purple pigments contain more perillyl alcohol (10x more anti-cancer than limolene). Side tracking here, but purple strains would be the route to go if trying to fight cancer fyi!! Anyways, In aroma therapy "citrus" is used to wake up the sences where "lavendar" is used to relax them. So my little theory is if it smells citrusy, lemony, or tropical fruity it will generally be an upity high versus a camphor, skunky, or pine smell, but like everythingin nature there are exceptions, so this is not always true. Also the relationship between CBD and CBN is fascinating to me because CBN is supposed to be sedative but for me isnt!! I believe it counter acts the presence of CBD much like THCV is supposed to do! I know for me strains with even low CBD with no prescence of CBN are sleppy, where as strains with high CBD with even a tiny bit of CBN is nowhere as sedative! Ex: Reg Green crack (skunky) with a 18% thc .3 cbd and n/a cbn is super sleeeeepy VS Green crack extreme (citrusy) w/ 18%thc .3 cbd and .23 cbn is like im on tweek mode!! Its like day and night with only a .23 diffrence of CBN present!!! Just my 2 cents !! ;-) ... Oh yeah mad propps to "prof. matt" for spreading the word on veganics and possibly taking supersoil to a whole new level!!!! And also to my mentor subcool for creating "Harlequin" a new high CBD strain and also for creating "VORTEX" MY FAVORITE STRAIN EVER.. Serriously hands down one of the best sativa hybrids ive ever had the pleasure to smoke/grow!! And Ive seen alot of sativas in my day!!! Its like green crack extreme screwed a tangerine in a mango field that had been soaked in adrenaline!! One wand hit will have your heart racing, head spinning, and your forehead sweating like you ate a chili pepper!!!!! :bigjoint: ... Stoner
 

Rapunzel

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"VORTEX" MY FAVORITE STRAIN EVER.. Serriously hands down one of the best sativa hybrids ive ever had the pleasure to smoke/grow!! And Ive seen alot of sativas in my day!!! Its like green crack extreme screwed a tangerine in a mango field that had been soaked in adrenaline!! One wand hit will have your heart racing, head spinning, and your forehead sweating like you ate a chili pepper!!!!! :bigjoint: ... Stoner
Where is this available?
 

CC Dobbs

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not at all. to OP. guess i should have explained that.

ive been wanting to pheno search cannatonic. have seen quite a few 12+ cbd tests with cannatonic.
In California we have a strain called ACDC that was germinated and tested by Dr. William Courtney ( cannabisinternational.org ) It has tested at 22%CBD/1%THC. It was originally called Cannatonic. I'm just finishing up an outdoor grow and am looking forward to trying it. If anyone is passing through Sonoma County and wants a clone let me know.
 

Huel Perkins

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In California we have a strain called ACDC that was germinated and tested by Dr. William Courtney ( cannabisinternational.org ) It has tested at 22%CBD/1%THC. It was originally called Cannatonic. I'm just finishing up an outdoor grow and am looking forward to trying it. If anyone is passing through Sonoma County and wants a clone let me know.
It was originally Cannatonic? So he just decided to change the name for the hell of it and call it his own? LOL
 

CC Dobbs

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It was originally Cannatonic? So he just decided to change the name for the hell of it and call it his own? LOL
Your outrage is misguided. ACDC is an acronym for Alternate C? Dietary Cannabis. He is a big proponent of consuming cannabis and so changed the name to reflect that. Cannatonic grown from seed has show tremendous variation in THC/CBD ratios by most people who have them tested so doesn't it make sense to differentiate between a Cannatonic that is 22-1 and a Cannatonic that is 6-2 and a Cannatonic that is 1-1? What would you do?
 

Huel Perkins

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Your outrage is misguided. ACDC is an acronym for Alternate C? Dietary Cannabis. He is a big proponent of consuming cannabis and so changed the name to reflect that. Cannatonic grown from seed has show tremendous variation in THC/CBD ratios by most people who have them tested so doesn't it make sense to differentiate between a Cannatonic that is 22-1 and a Cannatonic that is 6-2 and a Cannatonic that is 1-1? What would you do?
I would call it the high CBD pheno Cannatonic like a sensible person.
 

Huel Perkins

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You are a waste of my time.

Cannatonic has 3 different pheno types, one is high CBD and low THC pheno, one is a high THC and low CBD pheno and one is a 1:1 THC to CBD ratio pheno. You're an idiot if you think you have the right to completely rename a strain because you got a pheno that was different than you expected. What do you think the breeders at Resin Seeds would have to say about people just renaming the strains they spent years of hard work to create?
 

CC Dobbs

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Cannatonic has 3 different pheno types, one is high CBD and low THC pheno, one is a high THC and low CBD pheno and one is a 1:1 THC to CBD ratio pheno. You're an idiot if you think you have the right to completely rename a strain because you got a pheno that was different than you expected. What do you think the breeders at Resin Seeds would have to say about people just renaming the strains they spent years of hard work to create?

Fuck you, you retarded toad. I posted to offer my experience and free clones but all you can add is criticism about the name and a lame attempt to defend the honor of Resin Seeds. Your opinions on names is childish and naive and your knowledge about cannatonic is way out of date. If you knew more of the real story you'd apologize for your ignorance but you're more like a bully than a man so I'm not holding my breath. Stick with what you know, asshole and don't pretend.
 

Huel Perkins

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Fuck you, you retarded toad. I posted to offer my experience and free clones but all you can add is criticism about the name and a lame attempt to defend the honor of Resin Seeds. Your opinions on names is childish and naive and your knowledge about cannatonic is way out of date. If you knew more of the real story you'd apologize for your ignorance but you're more like a bully than a man so I'm not holding my breath. Stick with what you know, asshole and don't pretend.
Wow, you're so sensitive, its so cute! All your name calling and no logic to back anything you've said radiates ignorance but i'll give you another shot to redeem yourself if you can.

Real breeders work hard and make multiple crosses and back crosses to come up something worthy of naming and marketing. Do you really think its right to just pop their seeds and rename them as your own? I want an answer to that, seriously!

You really think i'm childish for being disgusted with someone stealing another's hard work and claiming as his own?? What should we rename the other two phenos?

You are right about one thing, i am an asshole but you have not seen it yet. I've been extremely fair with you to give you a chance to prove your point even knowing that you can not.

The fact is that you are wrong, your name calling makes you look like an ignorant fool and there if nothing you can say to change these facts.

The pheno that Dr. William found is common, and will be in almost every 10 pack of Cannatonic seeds sold...

Instead of name calling like a child, i offer you to attempt to disprove anything i said.
 
Damn matt... do trolls just follow all your posts or what???.. jeeez... so many shit talkers and not enough contribution... sure its easy to misoverstand someone without being able to hear the tone in their voice, but come on ladies were not in highschool anymore .... Enoughs enough.. . Either post something worthwile or just be gone.. its so much easier to be nice than it is to be a dick.. You actually have to use energy to be an ass... doesnt take any energy to be nice... These posts are for about spreading knowledge and sharing new ideas and info.. not bashing each others opinion.. yeep their like assholes.. everyones got one and they all stink!!! But for realz.. its hard enought to weed out all the bs without needless posts, just to one up the other guy... For realz.. If I wanted to read bullshit id just go pick up another how to grow book by jhonny dumbass....yadala... There isnt any other grower or botinist out there educating you not to use animal products or fecal matter on your herbs... NOT NOONE!!! ONLY MATT and KYLE...Lets respect that and keep this blog moving in the positive direction!! Cant we all just get along?.. hahahahaha... Keep it drama free and 100.. always .. RIZE UP.. One love ... stoner...:clap: ...
 
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