carbonated water

ok I bought some what I thought was pop but it doesn't taste like it at all , I looked at the ingredients and it says it contains

carbonated water and potassium citrate


can I use it to water my plants with juring veg?
can I use to to spray on the leafs juring veg?
can I use it on the leafs juring flowering?
can I use it with plant food and water my flowering plants with?

Sounds like kind of a good idea.
I dont know if you should use it for watering though.
as far as I know, plants only absorb co2 through the foliage.
and the roots need oxygen.
As a foliar spray it may be worth it. when the lights go out, turn off the air circulation, and mist the all the plants. who knows if it actually has enough co2 to have an effect tho.
Its a little somethin somethin I guess.
As far as the potassium citrate goes, I looked it up here
http://chemicalland21.com/lifescience/foco/POTASSIUM%20CITRATE.htm
its says that
It exists in all plants (especially in lemons and limes). In biochemistry, it is involved in important metabolism of almost all living things

gangaguru975 said:

Sounds like kind of a good idea.
I dont know if you should use it for watering though.
as far as I know, plants only absorb co2 through the foliage.
and the roots need oxygen.
As a foliar spray it may be worth it. when the lights go out, turn off the air circulation, and mist the all the plants. who knows if it actually has enough co2 to have an effect tho.
Its a little somethin somethin I guess.
As far as the potassium citrate goes, I looked it up here
http://chemicalland21.com/lifescience/foco/POTASSIUM%20CITRATE.htm
its says that
It exists in all plants (especially in lemons and limes). In biochemistry, it is involved in important metabolism of almost all living things

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cool thanks , well I was thinking if could work for watering because of the air bubbles it creates, could I use it for veg to? so if I used it that would benifit my plants more? but there's a problum . I don't plan on giving my veging plants any dark time now the air movement I could stop that

CanadianFarmer said:

cool thanks , well I was thinking if could work for watering because of the air bubbles it creates, could I use it for veg to? so if I used it that would benifit my plants more? but there's a problum . I don't plan on giving my veging plants any dark time now the air movement I could stop that

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the bubbles it creates are co2 though dude, roots love oxygen.
your better off using hydrogen peroxide, which contains oxygen.
also your plants will intake more co2 during bloom than veg.
so its kinda pointless to add more co2 during veg.
the room in your house contains plenty of co2 for that
if your going to mist your plants with the soda water.
you gotta turn off the lights and air.
if you just turn off the air it'll get too hot in there
your using cfls right?
the best thing you can do for your plants, air wise, is
give them some fresh air.
open up your window(s) and air out your room.

I don't have a Co2 system so I'll be using the water, sugar and yeast so would I be able to use this method 24/0 for the flowering room?

24/0 for flowering? no no

with additional CO2 you could try using higher intensity light (if you can keep temp down) and also if your timer allows it you could try running 18h cycles instead of 24h (9h light 9h dark), it will allow you to have 40 day/night cycles in a month instead of 30

but you will probably need a CO2 tank and an expensive climate controller to do so, the sugar/yeast combo will not output that much CO2, generally you don't even need any other source of CO2 if you live in the place - at home me and my cat put out plenty of Co2

ddriver said:

24/0 for flowering? no no

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I was talking about if I used the sugar/water/yeast juring flowering 24/0 meening its always giving my flowering plants Co2

ddriver said:

with additional CO2 you could try using higher intensity light (if you can keep temp down) and also if your timer allows it you could try running 18h cycles instead of 24h (9h light 9h dark), it will allow you to have 40 day/night cycles in a month instead of 30

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I can't go any higher then 200w max for both my veg and flowering area due to to much power draw will blow a fuse. How does that hole 40 day/night cycles in a month make a diffrience? I heard about the method of 8 hours or light and 2 hours of dark (would this give me 2 days in 1 day?)

ddriver said:

but you will probably need a CO2 tank and an expensive climate controller to do so, the sugar/yeast combo will not output that much CO2, generally you don't even need any other source of CO2 if you live in the place - at home me and my cat put out plenty of Co2

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well since I do have my stuff in my room but fresh air comming in all the time I was thinking about doing the little extra water/sugar/yeast method to help them out a bit since I do liek to have more fresh air in and I do live by the forest so I'm not 100% but I think the Co2 levels would be quite abit lower compared to the city

you need to have equal light and dark cycles for flowering

by artificially making the day 6 hours short you will be able to get (at least in theory) 40 days worth of result in only 30 - you save 30% of the time, plants will be ready to harvest sooner

I 've never experimented with 18h day/night cycle but I've read some people actually made it work

and yes cities have way higher co2 levels, if you live out in the country, surrounded by nature you will have a lot more O2, and a lot cleaner air (good for you)
thou the natural inhabitant of plants is not the city, plants are used to grow in nature, where there aren't increased levels of CO2, so they will do just fine, yes if you increase CO2 you will probably get better yield

but plants will be skimper and buds will be minuscule, if the darkness cycle is lengthened during the flower-phase...

ddriver said:

you need to have equal light and dark cycles for flowering

by artificially making the day 6 hours short you will be able to get (at least in theory) 40 days worth of result in only 30 - you save 30% of the time, plants will be ready to harvest sooner

I 've never experimented with 18h day/night cycle but I've read some people actually made it work

and yes cities have way higher co2 levels, if you live out in the country, surrounded by nature you will have a lot more O2, and a lot cleaner air (good for you)
thou the natural inhabitant of plants is not the city, plants are used to grow in nature, where there aren't increased levels of CO2, so they will do just fine, yes if you increase CO2 you will probably get better yield

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I read that insted of doing 18/6 I could try to do a 10/2 meening

24 hours
12 hours is set to
10/2
the other 12 hours is
10/2

or 10/3

and if this is correct it says that I should get 2 days of growth in 1 day and flowering time would be 6 hours of light and 6 hours of dark aka 2 days of flowering in 24 hours

mane2008 said:

but plants will be skimper and buds will be minuscule, if the darkness cycle is lengthened during the flower-phase...

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the method that I was trying to say is the same as 24 hours but broken up into 12 hours but still have the same light time split between each 12 hours

go ahead, a little more co2 xtra is never a bad thing for plants

hope it's worth the trouble and you get big buds

ddriver said:

go ahead, a little more co2 xtra is never a bad thing for plants

hope it's worth the trouble and you get big buds

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well I was thinking about the hole

2/10 veg
6/6 flowering

making the 24 hours into 2 days in theory

and if I am correct the Co2 method that I would be using for flowering the contanor would be placed above the plants because Co2 is heaver then air

well I gess this is a nother thing I should try out once I start doing seed harvest

thats crazy, ive never thought of trying to make 1 day into 2.
I thought plants only grew during the light cycle.
so wouldnt the plant grow twice as much on 12/12 light than 6/6???
which is more natural for september/october in the northern hemisphere?

gangaguru975 said:

thats crazy, ive never thought of trying to make 1 day into 2.
I thought plants only grew during the light cycle.
so wouldnt the plant grow twice as much on 12/12 light than 6/6???
which is more natural for september/october in the northern hemisphere?

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well your taking that 12/12 and spliting it to 6/6 so your kinda giving the plants 2 sleeps and 2 awakes in 1 day

but that in my opinion would stress the plant out wouldnt it? I suppose as long as you keep on that cycle and dont change it again it would be fine... anyone know if this is viable? I certainly would like to know if it would shorten your flowering time... harvest a couple weeks sooner?

You guys are chasing ghosts. Your veg light cycles should be at least 18 hours of light each 24 hours, and that has to be continuous uninterrupted light. I use 24/7 light cycle for vegetative growth. IE my lights never turn off, plants grow great. when you switch to flowering light you need a minimum of 12 hours complete uninterrupted darkness per 24 hours. so that means you turn the lights off for at least 12 hours a day. I use 12 on 12 off, as does 95% of successful growers. Jacking around with the light schedule will cause you problems, keep things as simple as possible to give you a better chance of success.


You may be able to harvest sooner with a jacked up light sched, but your yield will suffer.

Spraying carbonated water on your plants will only cause problems, most likely light burn from the droplets acting as magnifying glasses and the leaves burning. CO2 only works when the lights are on, so no sense in adding any at night, its just a waste. The most efficient level of CO2 is 1500-1600 PPM, regular air is around 200, the yeast generator may add another 200 in a small enclosure, with half being wasted due to the dark. Concentrate on sound BASICS to grow and you won't need CO2 until all other aspects are at their peak. If you just stick to the basics you will grow more/better weed than 95% of the folks who experiment with the advanced techniques from the get go. There are so many people who universally think that topping/fimming/SCROGging/SOGging will automatically increase their yields, they will if the plant itself is grown to its maximum potential to start with, otherwise your just going to be disappointed in the results and all the time you spent trying to make 1 plant produce 5 pounds. Just grow the things and leave them be. give them what they need to grow and nothing more, the results can be surprising.

I've been burning 2 to 4 candles a "day" in my flowering room,,to get the co2 levels up,,I have no idea how much they produce but they must give some out....The room is fully sealed and the candles only burn during the 12hr light period... I haven't got the $ to buy a proper setup (yet) thou I do intend to
Am I wasting my time with the candles..? they are set up in a very safe way so no chance of them burning the place down.... The buds are coming along gr8... I'll try to get a photo up

i think you should work on spelling correctly before you should work on growing cannabis.

I think you need to get blazed and chill the .... out ..Peace