Cannaventure seeds thread

socaljoe

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What kinda set up you running outside? I've put a little thought into running a rdwc with the Rez inside to keep the soup cool, but Idk how well that would work, proly get to hot here!
I'm testing the Kratky Method of hydroponics to see if it's viable for cannabis.

If you're not familiar, Kratky is essentially a non-aerated, non-recirculating version of deep water culture. The main difference is that you don't keep the reservoir topped off, rather you let the water level drop so that the roots can pull oxygen from the humid area between the top of the water and the reservoir lid. So far, it seems to be a viable way to grow cannabis, at least the late season starts that I'm doing...full season viability remains to be seen.

As for the setup, I've just got some 27 gallon Home Depot totes for the reservoir and the plants are in 3" net cups. Running Greenleaf Mega Crop nutrients, Ph set to 5.8 initially but have not been checking or adjusting it and all has been fine, no deficiencies have cropped up. I have 7 plants running in this setup and all are doing great.

Also, as far as rez temps go...I've been 100% hands off with any kind of temp control, and they've been rocking along just fine. I did add some pond-zyme to keep algae at bay.
 

Amos Otis

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I'm testing the Kratky Method of hydroponics to see if it's viable for cannabis.

If you're not familiar, Kratky is essentially a non-aerated, non-recirculating version of deep water culture. The main difference is that you don't keep the reservoir topped off, rather you let the water level drop so that the roots can pull oxygen from the humid area between the top of the water and the reservoir lid. So far, it seems to be a viable way to grow cannabis, at least the late season starts that I'm doing...full season viability remains to be seen.

As for the setup, I've just got some 27 gallon Home Depot totes for the reservoir and the plants are in 3" net cups. Running Greenleaf Mega Crop nutrients, Ph set to 5.8 initially but have not been checking or adjusting it and all has been fine, no deficiencies have cropped up. I have 7 plants running in this setup and all are doing great.

Also, as far as rez temps go...I've been 100% hands off with any kind of temp control, and they've been rocking along just fine. I did add some pond-zyme to keep algae at bay.
Very interesting. I do 5 gal buckets with air pump. Over the years, I've had air stones fail, or a pump fail or disconnect that I didn't catch. Until [ I assume ] days later when the plant went into cardiac arrest from drowning. There's always 4 to 6 inches of space between the lid and the solution. I'll follow your progress w/ much interest.

Some years ago, I set up some passive hydro pots on a deck for a friend, Vermiculite and perlite with cotton cord dangling into an oversize saucer to suck up water. Nute solution drench 4 - 7 days. Worked like a charm.

****Just cracked one each of Cheap Thrills, Arcata Ghost, and the "new batch' of PRK.
 

Amos Otis

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Very interesting. I do 5 gal buckets with air pump. Over the years, I've had air stones fail, or a pump fail or disconnect that I didn't catch. Until [ I assume ] days later when the plant went into cardiac arrest from drowning. There's always 4 to 6 inches of space between the lid and the solution. I'll follow your progress w/ much interest.

Some years ago, I set up some passive hydro pots on a deck for a friend, Vermiculite and perlite with cotton cord dangling into an oversize saucer to suck up water. Nute solution drench 4 - 7 days. Worked like a charm.

****Just cracked one each of Cheap Thrills, Arcata Ghost, and the "new batch' of PRK.
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socaljoe

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I was wondering for a second there...

I'm not saying Kratky is the way to do it, but it has been working well for me with tomatoes, cabbage and cannabis. Further testing is definitely needed, but I'm optimistic. I'll post some updates as the girls move along. I also have 4 GPS Doc Holiday and 1 Mr Nice G13 Skunk going in the same setup.
 

boybelue

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I'm testing the Kratky Method of hydroponics to see if it's viable for cannabis.

If you're not familiar, Kratky is essentially a non-aerated, non-recirculating version of deep water culture. The main difference is that you don't keep the reservoir topped off, rather you let the water level drop so that the roots can pull oxygen from the humid area between the top of the water and the reservoir lid. So far, it seems to be a viable way to grow cannabis, at least the late season starts that I'm doing...full season viability remains to be seen.

As for the setup, I've just got some 27 gallon Home Depot totes for the reservoir and the plants are in 3" net cups. Running Greenleaf Mega Crop nutrients, Ph set to 5.8 initially but have not been checking or adjusting it and all has been fine, no deficiencies have cropped up. I have 7 plants running in this setup and all are doing great.

Also, as far as rez temps go...I've been 100% hands off with any kind of temp control, and they've been rocking along just fine. I did add some pond-zyme to keep algae at bay.
Yeah ive seen and read about it a few times but never tried it, I seen a YouTube video where a guy was growing lettuce, I think it was, but it was a soil vs hydro and the hydro killed it. Jus watched it not to long ago but cant remember the exact title. I couldn't get over how well they did with no aeration, stagnant and high temps. Just crazy, soil wasn't even close! I wondered how bud would fair in that setup, Cool experiment!
 

socaljoe

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Very interesting. I do 5 gal buckets with air pump. Over the years, I've had air stones fail, or a pump fail or disconnect that I didn't catch. Until [ I assume ] days later when the plant went into cardiac arrest from drowning. There's always 4 to 6 inches of space between the lid and the solution. I'll follow your progress w/ much interest.

Some years ago, I set up some passive hydro pots on a deck for a friend, Vermiculite and perlite with cotton cord dangling into an oversize saucer to suck up water. Nute solution drench 4 - 7 days. Worked like a charm.

****Just cracked one each of Cheap Thrills, Arcata Ghost, and the "new batch' of PRK.
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I think maybe the problem you ran into was not enough air space for the roots to uptake oxygen. The recommendation I've seen with my setup is to top the reservoir off to about 1/2-2/3 of the way up, and that has been working well for me.
 

socaljoe

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Yeah ive seen and read about it a few times but never tried it, I seen a YouTube video where a guy was growing lettuce, I think it was, but it was a soil vs hydro and the hydro killed it. Jus watched it not to long ago but cant remember the exact title. I couldn't get over how well they did with no aeration, stagnant and high temps. Just crazy, soil wasn't even close! I wondered how bud would fair in that setup, Cool experiment!
Sounds like Jeb Gardner, I watch all of his videos...he was my inspiration to try this. He's in my area (roughly speaking), so if it works for him I know it will work for me.

This whole thing is just a fun side project for me. I don't even really care if the plants produce or how much.

This video?

 

boybelue

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Sounds like Jeb Gardner, I watch all of his videos...he was my inspiration to try this. He's in my area (roughly speaking), so if it works for him I know it will work for me.

This whole thing is just a fun side project for me. I don't even really care if the plants produce or how much.

This video?

Yeah thats it , I couldn't believe the soil plants didn't do any better!
 

socaljoe

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Yeah thats it , I couldn't believe the soil plants didn't do any better!
He addressed that in a later video. The soil grown plants were set up in wicking beds and they weren't wicking effectively, leading to the soil being too dry and the plants not performing as they should have. That said, Kratky has shown to be commercially viable for short timeframe crops like lettuces, probably due in large part to the fact that the 30 day growth to harvest window isn't long enough for serious problems to develop and take hold. Pretty cool stuff.
 

boybelue

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He addressed that in a later video. The soil grown plants were set up in wicking beds and they weren't wicking effectively, leading to the soil being too dry and the plants not performing as they should have. That said, Kratky has shown to be commercially viable for short timeframe crops like lettuces, probably due in large part to the fact that the 30 day growth to harvest window isn't long enough for serious problems to develop and take hold. Pretty cool stuff.
I'm interested in your final analysis, seems like it would be low maintenance.
 

socaljoe

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I'm interested in your final analysis, seems like it would be low maintenance.
I've literally topped up the reservoirs once and that's all the maintenance I've given them. I didn't even check the plants for a period of about 2 weeks and they just kept on going. Just my style. :sleep:
 

boybelue

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Didn't most of you guys that ordered one pk on the 50% off promo get a free pk? I forgot to put the code in, emailed right after and when I sent my payment in I mentioned it. Gotta admit I was hoping since I pd full price he would throw me two freebies but I only got one, little disappointed, but I guess I got my money's worth!
 

boybelue

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I've literally topped up the reservoirs once and that's all the maintenance I've given them. I didn't even check the plants for a period of about 2 weeks and they just kept on going. Just my style. :sleep:
You've definitely got me wanting to try it, so you think it would be better to start a little late in the season?
 

boybelue

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My neighbor use to fill 5 gal buckets up with soil with a bunch off smaller holes drilled around the bottom, and would sit those in totes and fill the totes up a little with nutrient solution and they done much better than i thought they would.
 

socaljoe

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You've definitely got me wanting to try it, so you think it would be better to start a little late in the season?
Well, I can only answer from my own experience, and that's doing a late season start. If you have the climate, like I do, to run into November and potentially December, a late season run is a good place to start simply because you're dealing with a shortened timeframe from seed to harvest. It's a good way to do proof of concept.

I'd definitely recommend trying it out, what do you have to lose?
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Didn't most of you guys that ordered one pk on the 50% off promo get a free pk? I forgot to put the code in, emailed right after and when I sent my payment in I mentioned it. Gotta admit I was hoping since I pd full price he would throw me two freebies but I only got one, little disappointed, but I guess I got my money's worth!
No, I ordered 1 pack and used 50% off code and got 2 free beans of lemon crash og. No free pack.

I am getting a replacement pack because in 2013 I bought a pack of canna venture from attitudes for $98 and only 4 out of 10 popped. I think I even had it reported on rollitup back then too, but the replacements were out of the kindness of Rusty's heart and had nothing to do with freebies. Honestly I'll buy several more packs from him in the future just to help support such a chill breeder.
 

Bodyne

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No, I ordered 1 pack and used 50% off code and got 2 free beans of lemon crash og. No free pack.

I am getting a replacement pack because in 2013 I bought a pack of canna venture from attitudes for $98 and only 4 out of 10 popped. I think I even had it reported on rollitup back then too, but the replacements were out of the kindness of Rusty's heart and had nothing to do with freebies. Honestly I'll buy several more packs from him in the future just to help support such a chill breeder.
This is the reason I cannot recommend Mosca to anyone. I have a friend who bought a pack 8 months ago, just got around to runnin em, really immature beans, passed the finger roll test he said, but just small, pale, etc. None germed. When notified, Mosca first said it be took care of, no probs, blamed the seedbank storing conditions. When the seedbank seen the email of Mosca saying he would take care of it and then the next email concerning their seedbank, they gleefully rectified the situation. But not Mosca. Prolly why you don't see any of his plants as mother plants in gardens, etc. I do see he's a big sponsor to the deal coming up in RI or on east coast. Rusty takes care of someone 5 yrs later on a deal, and Mosca blames seedbank, you make the call. Just an example how Rusty is above and beyond in the game. Always have repeat business when you treat people right. jmho
 

Stiickygreen

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.I've been trimming nug off the stick since yesterday afternoon. After nearly 2 weeks of hang time in my 60F/60% humidity garage. SICK, SICK, SICK is all I can say about quite a few of these CVS gals.

I'll try to grab some nug shots when I can set up a good light and possibly get some decent shots.

The wife took pity on me and brought me breakfast (amongst the TK#2) after a couple of cups of joe and quite a few hits off the bong filled with scissor hash. Yum. Wake and bake!
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