Cannaventure seeds thread

hillbill

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After another round of hermies (non-CV gear) I've got a new theory--think it might be the blurple LED's 'triggering' the intersex issues.

Are the folks who have had hermy problems also using blurple lights during flower like my tent?
Had Almost no hermies with blurple 6 or 8 years ago but ran all European and Canadian IBLs and simple hybreeds. Super poly multi hybreeds the last 3 years have proven much more likely to have intersex troubles and high male/ female ratio. Lots of very potent strains also but far more sex related troubles.

The new white COBs and Boards are a whole new level of spectrum and power but the blurple won’t make anything hermie except a grower from blurple poisoning.
 
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quiescent

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There's definitely plants out there that get pissed at poor light penetration and throw male parts on the lowers as a result. Could happen with lower wattage HPS too but with a 1k if the plant is that finicky it should be tossed.
 

growslut

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Yes, the sun can absolutely cause hermy's. Have you never grown anything outdoors with sunburn or that has seeded early from the environment? Or died from too much or too little light?

Blurple's causing stress which leads to hermy's is still my main theory. Maybe its nutritional, but the qb's leave the plants 100% happy while the blurple's do not.
 

hillbill

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Yes, the sun can absolutely cause hermy's. Have you never grown anything outdoors with sunburn or that has seeded early from the environment? Or died from too much or too little light?

Blurple's causing stress which leads to hermy's is still my main theory. Maybe its nutritional, but the qb's leave the plants 100% happy while the blurple's do not.
I grew with blurples in a pevious life and the plants were happy and potent and no herms. Why would blurple LEDs stress the plants?
Not defending blurple LEDs but using them will not cause hermies.
 

CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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this is the light I use https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7GBF2S/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza
(couldn't find the diode and can't remember?)

Maybe it is a penetration issue. Ball sacs usually show up down on the lowers.
That certainly is not a week light. 200 5w diodes. Had one very similar and still use it for my moms.I am leaning toward @ widows advice on nutrients. I think i would try and separate the 2 lights for starters. Maybe PM @ widow or someone else with a lot of knowledge on nutrient programs.Tell them what you are currently feeding and adjust from there.@growslut i am just thinking out load here trying to help solve the problem.
 

whytewidow

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It has to be either not enough light on lowers causing hermies. Too much N in flower. Light leaks, over watering, space not dialed in. Timer glitches Sensitive strains and not knowing how to run them. Using a blurple light will not cause hermies. PERIOD. Honestly that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They said the plants under QBs are happy and under blurples side they're not. That's bc they are using the same nutrients for both lights. And that's not how it works. Just bc the way your running nutrients under mid power white leds doesnt mean the same exact plant clone per say will like the same exact nutrients under a different color or Kelvin of light. They uptake different amounts of water and nutrients.

Edit: clone A under hps may not need any additional mag. Put that same plant clone b under mid power white leds, the same mix of nutrients wont work. Bc the different lights cause different leaf surface temps causing chlorophyll production at different rates. And different cell division rates. Which in turn needs a completely different amount of nutrients. And added calmag.

Edit edit: lol which in turn continuing to run a plant with mag deficiencies can cause excess stress. Causing a herm.
 
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CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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It has to be either not enough light on lowers causing hermies. Too much N in flower. Light leaks, over watering, space not dialed in. Timer glitches Sensitive strains and not knowing how to run them. Using a blurple light will not cause hermies. PERIOD. Honestly that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They said the plants under QBs are happy and under blurples side they're not. That's bc they are using the same nutrients for both lights. And that's not how it works. Just bc the way your running nutrients under mid power white leds doesnt mean the same exact plant clone per say will like the same exact nutrients under a different color or Kelvin of light. They uptake different amounts of water and nutrients.

Edit: clone A under hps may not need any additional mag. Put that same plant clone b under mid power white leds, the same mix of nutrients wont work. Bc the different lights cause different leaf surface temps causing chlorophyll production at different rates. And different cell division rates. Which in turn needs a completely different amount of nutrients. And added calmag.

Edit edit: lol which in turn continuing to run a plant with mag deficiencies can cause excess stress. Causing a herm.
I think you could be on to something with the Continuous mag deficiencies. That would make more sense than anything else. I believe he has been working with the rest of the reasons.@growslut have you noticed anything that might be a mag def on the plants that hermed. To make matters worse you are working with the CV gear that might herm even if you have everything right.
 

ChronicWonders.

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Anyone have issues with the strain Pure Animals? Seeds themselves weren’t very viable and only had one sprout from 3 or 4 beans. Just curious what I might expect out of her and if I should just run the remaining 8 I have.
 

coppershot

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Anyone have issues with the strain Pure Animals? Seeds themselves weren’t very viable and only had one sprout from 3 or 4 beans. Just curious what I might expect out of her and if I should just run the remaining 8 I have.
I havent hard any germination issues with Cannaventure, mind you I normally get close to 100% with the old paper towel method, even with old beans.

My issues with animals cookies was herms. One threw a load of nuts and the other threw a couple. Probaply coukd jave salvaged the second one but didnt want to risk it... gonna try them again next run maybe.
 

SmokeyBear11

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Every time I have ever had a hermie problem arise it’s from light leaks, as little as they may be. Also overall too much stress on the plant... dense soil, rotten roots, etc. then again there are seeds which will throw balls in any given environment
 

growslut

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It has to be either not enough light on lowers causing hermies. Too much N in flower. Light leaks, over watering, space not dialed in. Timer glitches Sensitive strains and not knowing how to run them. Using a blurple light will not cause hermies. PERIOD. Honestly that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They said the plants under QBs are happy and under blurples side they're not. That's bc they are using the same nutrients for both lights. And that's not how it works. Just bc the way your running nutrients under mid power white leds doesnt mean the same exact plant clone per say will like the same exact nutrients under a different color or Kelvin of light. They uptake different amounts of water and nutrients.

Edit: clone A under hps may not need any additional mag. Put that same plant clone b under mid power white leds, the same mix of nutrients wont work. Bc the different lights cause different leaf surface temps causing chlorophyll production at different rates. And different cell division rates. Which in turn needs a completely different amount of nutrients. And added calmag.

Edit edit: lol which in turn continuing to run a plant with mag deficiencies can cause excess stress. Causing a herm.
like most of your posts, this is always my face :roll: You like to talk like you have all the answers but you still haven't figured out how to prevent damping off

Yes, plants herm under blurples, sunlight and other sources of light. And those lights still get sold.

Sure, I could up the calmag and if thats all it takes that would be awesome. But just to make the point clear, if the same plants show no deficiencies under qb's but do show deficiencies under blurple's, then the deficiency would be a symptom of that plant being stressed, correct? And if that stress is contributing or causing the plant to hermy, then its pretty clear that the lights ARE causing the plant stress, which could be causing hermy's.
 

whytewidow

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Yes, plants herm under blurples, sunlight and other sources of light. And those lights still get sold.
You're ignorant. No wonder your shit herms. It herms under that shit when you dont know how to grow. Lmfao. It's pretty clear you dont know how to grow under different lights and know how to read plants that's what's pretty clear.

Edit: I had you on ignore once bc of your ignorance. Time to put you back.
 
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