Cannabinoids in pregnancy

yeti5508

Active Member
This thread is simply about the effects of phytocannabinoids on fetal childbirth

NOT

WHETHER OR NOT SMOKE CUTS OFF OXYGEN....

IVE MADE A THREAD RECENTLY AND THERE WAS MIXED DISCUSSION

just thought id get everyones review

my wifes pregnant btw!
 

yeti5508

Active Member
thank you sir

The effect of the passive inhalation of marijuana as a result of breathing in the smoke of others is not quantified, but should be avoided.

Any form of smoking can disrupt the supply of oxygen and nutrients to the fetus, which can result in restrictions in the growth of the fetus (including overall length, foot length, head size and body weight), and in rare cases premature birth, miscarriage and stillbirth.

pointing out that smoke is bad\

we only dab btw

 

yeti5508

Active Member
When a breastfeeding mother uses marijuana, THC passes into the breast-milk and thus into the baby, where it can be stored in the baby’s fatty tissue for several weeks.
Using marijuana while breastfeeding may cause the baby to be unsettled and disrupt feeding cycles.
As a result, marijuana use should be avoided when breastfeeding.


Cannabinoids, whether plant-derived, synthetic or endogenous, have been shown to stimulate appetite in the adult organism. We have reported previously that cannabinoid receptors play a critical role during the early suckling period

The presence of endocannabinoids in the developing brain and in maternal milk have led to evidence for a critical role for CB[SUB]1[/SUB]receptors in oral motor control of suckling during neonatal development. The endocannabinoids appear to regulate energy balance and food intake at four functional levels within the brain and periphery

I FEEL THE LINK YOU POSTED IS A BIT BIASED, SCIENCE WOULD AGREE
 

yeti5508

Active Member
"Do you want pregnant women to smoke pot?"

That question bounced around the room (and in my head) for a moment. And the answer is an equivocal "Yes" — but the reason why I hesitate is the word "smoke."

Here's a better question — "Do you want pregnant women to consume cannabinoids?" The answer to that question might surprise you, but this is too important of an issue to be wrong — no matter what misconceptions one might have. Current research is confirming a new theory: cannabinoids play a fundamental role in a healthy and successful pregnancy

Pregnancy is a stress to the body. To modulate that stress, the ECS responds by creating endocannabinoids — the body's version of "first responders.

http://www.illinoisnorml.org/content/view/1058/129/
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
"Do you want pregnant women to smoke pot?"

That question bounced around the room (and in my head) for a moment. And the answer is an equivocal "Yes" — but the reason why I hesitate is the word "smoke."

Here's a better question — "Do you want pregnant women to consume cannabinoids?" The answer to that question might surprise you, but this is too important of an issue to be wrong — no matter what misconceptions one might have. Current research is confirming a new theory: cannabinoids play a fundamental role in a healthy and successful pregnancy

Pregnancy is a stress to the body. To modulate that stress, the ECS responds by creating endocannabinoids — the body's version of "first responders.

http://www.illinoisnorml.org/content/view/1058/129/
You really think consuming cannabinoids by a pregnant woman is a good idea? Frankly I don't think we know enough yet. That is what angers me.

Now that bit about the ECS system is like saying pregnant women should consume opiates because we have an enkephalin system. It does not pass a simple test of logic.

For example:
All airplanes are made of steel and aluminum. (true)
Steel and aluminum can not fly. (true again)
Therefore since airplanes are made of steel and aluminum they can not fly. (False but a perfect logic sequence)

In logic this is what is known as a syllogism and one of the first and simplest forms. For a simple syllogism to stand all statements must in fact be true. The link between the human ecs and externally derived cannabinoids is still somewhat speculative based on the dearth of research so until we know more it fails there.

This is PRECISELY why Cannabis MUST be rescheduled. We do not have enough research to predict teratogenicity. So frankly I am VERY pro cannabis but I would say best to avoid during pregnancy based solely on the lack of current medical understanding.




***Disclaimer: If you are a pregnant and using or have history of success using during pregnancy I'm not arguing with you. What I'm trying to say is the damn government needs to get it's butt in gear and fix this we need REAL science done so we have substantiated facts and not merely anecdotes (and rightly or wrongly even if everyone agreed it doesn't matter until appropriate scientific tests are designed and repeated the govt. has us by the short hairs).***
 

Shik

Well-Known Member
I look at me pregnant wife often and wish I could feed her a nice brownie to help her with the stress.

I don't - but I want to. =/

Poor thing, can't stand to see her suffer.

And can't partake while breastfeeding either! Oh the horror!! Lol, we will be breastfeeding for a while so will have to figure something out.
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
i know that when the baby comes out its blood will be tested... and after. so wether its bad for you or not really doesnt matter.. you could try and stop smoking a month before your due, even 2 but what if it comes early.i know a couple peole that have had their kids taken away just leave it
 

Fadedawg

Well-Known Member
This thread is simply about the effects of phytocannabinoids on fetal childbirth

NOT

WHETHER OR NOT SMOKE CUTS OFF OXYGEN....

IVE MADE A THREAD RECENTLY AND THERE WAS MIXED DISCUSSION

just thought id get everyones review

my wifes pregnant btw!
A large number of links to studies on cannabis and pregnacy at the following Granny Stormcrow link, starting on page 550 through 555.

http://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/GrannysListJan2012.pdf
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
It really seems like the OP is looking for people
to condone the use of weed during the pregnancy of his child.

Personally, I cant bring myself to condone using drugs
during pregnancy at all unless prescribed by a doctor (not a forum).
 

GreenSummit

Active Member
It really seems like the OP is looking for people
to condone the use of weed during the pregnancy of his child.

Personally, I cant bring myself to condone using drugs
during pregnancy at all unless prescribed by a doctor (not a forum).
couldnt have said it better. . .
 

method2mymadness

Well-Known Member
i know that when the baby comes out its blood will be tested... and after. so wether its bad for you or not really doesnt matter.. you could try and stop smoking a month before your due, even 2 but what if it comes early.i know a couple peole that have had their kids taken away just leave it
Very true told him that in the other thread but everyone over looks this I know someone that had there kid taken cause of it
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
Very true told him that in the other thread but everyone over looks this I know someone that had there kid taken cause of it
Oh no you are quite correct. Almost all neonates are tested for drugs and yes CPS/DPH will intervene if you are in the US.

Here is how real mother's behave. I encourage the OP to read it.
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/651080-what-risks-have-you-taken.html#post9043101

Why in heaven's name would you take ANY risk when a baby will have to live with the ramifications of your decision for it's entire span of existence on this planet. Start demanding re-scheduling if for nothing else than teratogenicity testing!
 

vacpurge

New Member
there ya go yeti. is that enough proof to prove that you and your woman are fucking idiots who shouldnt be allowed to have kids?

keep trying to justify it to your self though
 

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
I haven't consumed any marijuana during my pregnancy and plan to stay away from it until my child is weaned off the breast. So another 6-7 months.

A year and a half to be clear of conscience for the rest of my childs life. I can take it.
 

method2mymadness

Well-Known Member
Maybe u can show ur wife some compassion and quit smoking with her .....if u decide to make her stop Wich I don't think u will u seem set in ur ways.
Hope this doesn't turn into a " well we tried to tell u thread "
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
I haven't consumed any marijuana during my pregnancy and plan to stay away from it until my child is weaned off the breast. So another 6-7 months.

A year and a half to be clear of conscience for the rest of my childs life. I can take it.
Damn "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Flaming Pie again."

You are a fine person you give me hope for the future!
bless you
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
Maybe u can show ur wife some compassion and quit smoking with her .....if u decide to make her stop Wich I don't think u will u seem set in ur ways.
Hope this doesn't turn into a " well we tried to tell u thread "

I agree his stopping using would be kind. However we really can't make another adult do anything. Or at least I've never found a way and heaven knows I gave it the ole college try LOL!
 
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