Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome

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AyHy

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Has anyone ever heard of such a disease/thing? I am nearly positive that I am suffering from it, so I am starting a thread on the topic and I'd love any input from the community. If you have never heard of Cannabinoid Hyperemsis Syndrome, google it, read up, and come back for the talk.
I am absolutely certain that my friend nearly died from this, and is dying from it.

His struggle with CHS goes back to 2001, and has recurred no fewer than five times. He starts smoking, feels good for about six weeks, starts vomiting intermittently, blames it on food poisoning or rationalizing that it isn't that bad, and then finally vomits until his teeth are ruined, he's torn a hole in his esophagus, and his potassium levels are nearly low enough to stop his heart.

At first, the disease was a compete mystery, but by now it's incredibly clear: he gets sick after six weeks of smoking weed, and he gets better when he quits. The relationship is airtight. It seems statistically impossible that it's a coincidence.

You'd think he would have quit by now, but he keeps refusing to believe that marijuana could be his problem - even with the writing on the wall like this. After all, he's been told all his life that weed is a magical wonder drug that cures all ailments, causes none, and can be picked up and put down at will since there's absolutely no potential for addiction.

The OP made a comment about hoping not to become the first marijuana fatality in history, but I am certain there have already been some. My friend was given a 50% chance of survival by his doctor at one point.

I created an account to say this because early in the thread, there were a significant number of people saying "This sounds like bullshit to me and anti-pot propaganda." I'm really not anti-pot; I recognize like most people that it causes much less harm than alcohol and that most people can smoke it without incident. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that CHS exists, and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
 

MaryAnne123

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I am absolutely certain that my friend nearly died from this, and is dying from it.

His struggle with CHS goes back to 2001, and has recurred no fewer than five times. He starts smoking, feels good for about six weeks, starts vomiting intermittently, blames it on food poisoning or rationalizing that it isn't that bad, and then finally vomits until his teeth are ruined, he's torn a hole in his esophagus, and his potassium levels are nearly low enough to stop his heart.

At first, the disease was a compete mystery, but by now it's incredibly clear: he gets sick after six weeks of smoking weed, and he gets better when he quits. The relationship is airtight. It seems statistically impossible that it's a coincidence.

You'd think he would have quit by now, but he keeps refusing to believe that marijuana could be his problem - even with the writing on the wall like this. After all, he's been told all his life that weed is a magical wonder drug that cures all ailments, causes none, and can be picked up and put down at will since there's absolutely no potential for addiction.

The OP made a comment about hoping not to become the first marijuana fatality in history, but I am certain there have already been some. My friend was given a 50% chance of survival by his doctor at one point.

I created an account to say this because early in the thread, there were a significant number of people saying "This sounds like bullshit to me and anti-pot propaganda." I'm really not anti-pot; I recognize like most people that it causes much less harm than alcohol and that most people can smoke it without incident. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that CHS exists, and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
I have stopped smoking weed for the past 2 weeks. Feels more like 2 months tho. I feel great. My body is now accepting food again. I smoked a very small bowl yesterday. I was good. Then I wanted more. So I smoked a little more. I should have stopped and the one small bowl cuz I started feeling pain again this morning. I love weed and this is so hard for me but with what my life was like in the last 3 years... I can only smoke now like once a month or so. Hope this info can help others. :)
 

cateyes87

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I am absolutely certain that my friend nearly died from this, and is dying from it.

His struggle with CHS goes back to 2001, and has recurred no fewer than five times. He starts smoking, feels good for about six weeks, starts vomiting intermittently, blames it on food poisoning or rationalizing that it isn't that bad, and then finally vomits until his teeth are ruined, he's torn a hole in his esophagus, and his potassium levels are nearly low enough to stop his heart.

At first, the disease was a compete mystery, but by now it's incredibly clear: he gets sick after six weeks of smoking weed, and he gets better when he quits. The relationship is airtight. It seems statistically impossible that it's a coincidence.

You'd think he would have quit by now, but he keeps refusing to believe that marijuana could be his problem - even with the writing on the wall like this. After all, he's been told all his life that weed is a magical wonder drug that cures all ailments, causes none, and can be picked up and put down at will since there's absolutely no potential for addiction.

The OP made a comment about hoping not to become the first marijuana fatality in history, but I am certain there have already been some. My friend was given a 50% chance of survival by his doctor at one point.

I created an account to say this because early in the thread, there were a significant number of people saying "This sounds like bullshit to me and anti-pot propaganda." I'm really not anti-pot; I recognize like most people that it causes much less harm than alcohol and that most people can smoke it without incident. But there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that CHS exists, and shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
I really hope he stops. You need to educate him before his own body eats him alive.

I have been sober for nearly 3 weeks and the pieces to the puzzle are coming together nicely. It's not all fun of course at first, but it DOES get easier, you just have to keep at it.
I can't say I'm fully healed because I am not. I'm still underweight and experiencing lucid dreaming. And I don't plan on smoking until I am healed 100% and months have gone by. And even than, it will be perhaps once a month or only on special occasions. I absolutely have NO cravings for weed and haven't had any since I quit.

With regards to lucid dreaming, I don't feel I get proper sleep because of this. Any one knows what to do to stop this, or how long does this last?
I don't take any sleeping pills except melatonin or nighty time tea.
 

Bmoc2424

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Yeah, this most definitely is NOT bullshit! I've experienced the same symptoms and have undergone every test to try to figure out the problem. I haven't smoked in 2 weeks and have been feeling progressively better every day! I have an endoscopy in 4 days and if they find nothing, I'm almost positive that is due to marijuana. I also LOVE weed and have been a habitual smoker for 3 + years now. Anyone who thinks this guy doesn't know what he is talking about needs to do some research or shut the fuck up
 

saildude

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Yeah, this most definitely is NOT bullshit! I've experienced the same symptoms and have undergone every test to try to figure out the problem. I haven't smoked in 2 weeks and have been feeling progressively better every day! I have an endoscopy in 4 days and if they find nothing, I'm almost positive that is due to marijuana. I also LOVE weed and have been a habitual smoker for 3 + years now. Anyone who thinks this guy doesn't know what he is talking about needs to do some research or shut the fuck up

When they did my endoscopy they noted on my medical records that my stomach was abnormally red in color. They also discovered a common bacterial infection, H.Pylori, which they treated with a course of antibiotics.

You should post your age and symptoms so we can compare our experiences.
 

Cro10

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Hello there! LISTEN TO ME PLS THIS MAY BE OF GREAT HELP!
Im from Croatia,22 years old...smoking from 3 to ?? grams per day for 6 years now.My vomiting started with the same symptoms 2 years ago(non stop nausea and vomiting with severe shaking and sweating),smoked a joint,felt better instantly,took a bath,felt better only temporarily.When the `attacks`were to severe to stop with weed I got hospitalized over 20 times in the last 2 years,and then 3 months ago i got hospitalized in Croatia for a month,did all the test you can imagine(CT,MRI,blood,urin,celiac biopsy,colonoscopy with biopsy,all sorts of bacteria,inflammatory diseases...etc.) everything negative,got out of hospital with suspicious diagnose of Chrons disease which doctors weren't convinced in! By the last 2 years i stopped eating gluten,fried food,all junk food...i lost 15 kilos. Then after the suspicious diagnose i said enough...10 days ago,took my stuff and went all the way Rochester,MI at Mayo clinic...did all the tests here again and everything was negative...the next day doctor asked me: `Are you smoking marijuana`? i said yes, he smiled and said :`Your problems are solved`,and he diagnosed CVS(cyclic vomiting syndrome) to be accurate CHS(cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome),I'm still in Rochester,leaving on Tuesday...Mayo saved me i must say no one would ever diagnose this cause this is a fresh study which is rarely recognized in the world. I LOVE LOVE weed but this is the time when we go separate ways! I'm sad and happy at the same time...but I`ll be glad if you have any questions,I think i can help.
 

ULEN

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Sucking a lot of air while smoking will cause you to feel it in your gut. Solution.... stop sucking so much or try a different medium. This is similar to hearing that Bobo the slob got a tummy ache from eating too many chicken mcnuggets and quarter pounders from mcdonalds. Try washing it down with a 2 liter Coke. :spew:
 

MaryAnne123

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I have been diagnosed with cannabinoid hyperemesis. I quit smoking weed for two and half weeks I felt so much better. Lately I have been smoking again just a little to see how I feel. Cuz I love weed! And living in Washington State where it is legal makes it hard to not smoke. But I have been feeling ok. A little pain in the mornings but only for like 20 mins and not every morning. Only when I smoke too much the day before. No vomiting and not feeling nauseous at all! I have figured Out how much is too much by trial and error. I have found a happy medium. And I am very happy in life. Gonna start work again soon. Getting my old job back after losing it 2 years ago almost exactly. I have found a way to not be sick AND smoke weed. Hope this helps someone. :)
 

pSi007

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nobody is taking this bullshit thread seriously. It is a couple dumb ass kids who are having fun with the RIU Terms of Service. Hey idiot, learn how to spell. You don't need to quit smoking weed because you DON'T smoke weed. Be a real man and stop spreading lies!

Possible issues I find insulting they have not been talked about..
1. Some of you may be smoking poisoned weed if you are having a real problem.

2. THC can be high in herb and may be too potent for some novices.

3. Elderly people have problems coping with reality, especially on mood altering medication.

4. Your body produces cannabiniods naturally.

5. Do you drink alcohol or are you severely under-weight?

6. Are you having a panic attack and unable to relax?

7. Have you been tested for Iron deficiencies, or HIV and/or blood-born pathogens?

8. Are you unable to mentally OR physically unable to coop with cannabis usage?

9. Have you had your vital signs and Blood-Oxygen level checked frequently?

10. Get a Blood Oxymeter, they cost about $50. It will check your pulse and Blood o2.

The problem lies in the physical issues, cannabis has almost ZERO negative health issues with the exception of a couple. Example: Poor o2 perfusion due to inhaled smoke. Poor o2 perfusion due to hyperventilation, (panic attack). Poor balance due to poor perception.


Let me ask a more serious question, Have you had any inner-ear problems? Smoking could aggravate an inner-ear condition which could cause faintness and vomiting.

Again, MILLIONS of people all over the world smoke cannabis regularly. I think the few studies which have been done to demonize cannabis are absolute BULLSHIT. Instead of taking a serious approach to this situation, kids are coming to RIU and having fun by talking lies and shit.
 

MaryAnne123

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Lol paramedic. Cuz that means you are a doctor. Oh ok. Believe what you want. I'm glad you can smoke and not get sick. SOME people get sick. I'm one of them. But I just smoke half as much now. Again believe it or not. I don't care.
 

pSi007

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SOME people get sick. I'm one of them.
1 in a million healthy people can get physically sick from ingestion of small and safe amounts of cannabis, I wonder what it is from. If you are not healthy, you need to speak to a M.D. or a few. Make sure you always get a second opinion when reviewing your health.

I doubt your problem is the cannabis, if it were, you would hear more about it from the 100,000,000 annual users in the world. If you are not joking, you might have aspergillus fungus in your local weed. Some people are VERY sensitive to molds and fungus, as well as inhaled smoke.

http://www.cdc.gov/fungal/aspergillosis/

Ascomycetes.jpg



But... it`s my guess you read some shit on the net that scared you, what are you 16 years old? You are the 1 in a million which treats cannabis like poison in your physiology? I wonder..


You could have a multitude of problems and having some quack tell you, it`s the devils weed and all your problems disappear, dude, whatever.. Are you clogging up your lungs with brown weed, like an idiot? who knows.. Your doctor is an idiot, get a second opinion.
 

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Been to 4 different doctors. All GI docs. It's been going on progressively for 3 years. Couldn't eat. Got down to 88 lbs. I promise you I'm not smoking moldy weed. I wouldn't believe it myself if I didn't go through it myself. Stopped smoking for 2 1/2 weeks. No pain. No vomiting. Was able to eat after a week or so. Now I'm back to normal. Didn't change anything but not smoke. It doesn't take a doctor to tell you it was the weed. And if I smoke too much now I feel it in the morning. Pain for 20 mins or so. Then it goes away. Glad your so interested in my weed problem. Btw... I'm a 34 year old mother of 2 boys. 15 and 6. The doctors thought it was Gastroparesis. Look that up. Cuz I know you don't know what that is Mr. Paramedic. I was a week away from getting a gastric pacemaker put in my stomach. That god i didn't.
 

pSi007

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Got down to 88 lbs.

The doctors thought it was Gastroparesis. Look that up. Cuz I know you don't know what that is Mr. Paramedic.


All paramedics and EMT-IIs know the diagnostics of Gastroparesis. It is obvious you are not interested in any real information and you are full of shit. You insult me and my profession before you know a damn thing about anything, shame on you.

Stop smoking weed, you are not a healthy person. I am sorry but I think your problem will return. Keep your hopes up - blame cannabis if you want. Some people will call you out on it, if you do.
 

Trujew

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Been to 4 different doctors. All GI docs. It's been going on progressively for 3 years. Couldn't eat. Got down to 88 lbs. I promise you I'm not smoking moldy weed. I wouldn't believe it myself if I didn't go through it myself. Stopped smoking for 2 1/2 weeks. No pain. No vomiting. Was able to eat after a week or so. Now I'm back to normal. Didn't change anything but not smoke. It doesn't take a doctor to tell you it was the weed. And if I smoke too much now I feel it in the morning. Pain for 20 mins or so. Then it goes away. Glad your so interested in my weed problem. Btw... I'm a 34 year old mother of 2 boys. 15 and 6. The doctors thought it was Gastroparesis. Look that up. Cuz I know you don't know what that is Mr. Paramedic. I was a week away from getting a gastric pacemaker put in my stomach. That god i didn't.

You aren't alone. I just had a scope this morning to try and figure out why I've lost over 60lbs in a 6 month period of mystery illness. Im a 6'0 male that has been smoking multiple times daily for 5 years and weighed 250lbs in April and now I am 185 from all the vomiting I have been doing through the spring summer and fall.


I thought it was a flu at first, so I ignored it and it didn't get better. I went home from work quite a few time violently sick and would spend hours in a hot bath to alleviate the symptoms. Then it would I away for awhile, usually no more than a week to ten days an start right back up. All the while I cut out fast food, meat and it got to the point were I was entirely on a liquid diet in August and September. I passed out at work because I couldn't even keep a bottle of water down without being sick and working in the sun.

After my fourth urgent care visit in ten days for an IV to keep me hydrated and exhausting all the blood tests, celiac screen as repeatedly being told I'm perfectly healthy otherwise, I was finally given my referral to a GI doctor in mid September. I was prescribed 10mg buscopan to take when needed and while it seemed to help I would still have cramping bloatin and abdominal pain. I finally quit smoking about 3 weeks ago for unrelated reasons and I didn't notice immediately but those symptoms have subsided almost completely and I have put back on ten pounds and am able to eat normally again.


The GI doctor today was the first one to ask me about my pot use and once I explained my whole history this morning and she almost immediately said she had seen this in 4 other young men and could almost guarantee it was "THC toxicity". She performed the scope and surprise surprise like every other test I was given everything came back in the clear. I have a follow up in two months and have been advised to avoid dairy and fructose as much as I can, but thc toxicity remained her diagnosis.


So I'm skeptical naturally. Even though I had quit, I love marijuana and this all seemed like bullshit. Googling around I didn't see anything about thx toxicity that sounded even related to what was going on Until I saw the words "Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome". Every symptom has been dead on. I've spent anywhere from 2-12 hours in a hot bath, when it was at its worst, to try as alleviate the symptoms and once I saw that everything has clicked f
 

Trujew

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Been to 4 different doctors. All GI docs. It's been going on progressively for 3 years. Couldn't eat. Got down to 88 lbs. I promise you I'm not smoking moldy weed. I wouldn't believe it myself if I didn't go through it myself. Stopped smoking for 2 1/2 weeks. No pain. No vomiting. Was able to eat after a week or so. Now I'm back to normal. Didn't change anything but not smoke. It doesn't take a doctor to tell you it was the weed. And if I smoke too much now I feel it in the morning. Pain for 20 mins or so. Then it goes away. Glad your so interested in my weed problem. Btw... I'm a 34 year old mother of 2 boys. 15 and 6. The doctors thought it was Gastroparesis. Look that up. Cuz I know you don't know what that is Mr. Paramedic. I was a week away from getting a gastric pacemaker put in my stomach. That god i didn't.

You aren't alone. I just had a scope this morning to try and figure out why I've lost over 60lbs in a 6 month period of mystery illness. Im a 6'0 male that has been smoking multiple times daily for 5 years and weighed 250lbs in April and now I am 185 from all the vomiting I have been doing through the spring summer and fall.


I thought it was a flu at first, so I ignored it and it didn't get better. I went home from work quite a few time violently sick and would spend hours in a hot bath to alleviate the symptoms. Then it would I away for awhile, usually no more than a week to ten days an start right back up. All the while I cut out fast food, meat and it got to the point were I was entirely on a liquid diet in August and September. I passed out at work because I couldn't even keep a bottle of water down without being sick and working in the sun.

After my fourth urgent care visit in ten days for an IV to keep me hydrated and exhausting all the blood tests, celiac screen as repeatedly being told I'm perfectly healthy otherwise, I was finally given my referral to a GI doctor in mid September. I was prescribed 10mg buscopan to take when needed and while it seemed to help I would still have cramping bloatin and abdominal pain. I finally quit smoking about 3 weeks ago for unrelated reasons and I didn't notice immediately but those symptoms have subsided almost completely and I have put back on ten pounds and am able to eat normally again.


The GI doctor today was the first one to ask me about my pot use and once I explained my whole history this morning and she almost immediately said she had seen this in 4 other young men and could almost guarantee it was "THC toxicity". She performed the scope and surprise surprise like every other test I was given everything came back in the clear. I have a follow up in two months and have been advised to avoid dairy and fructose as much as I can, but thc toxicity remained her diagnosis.


So I'm skeptical naturally. Even though I had quit, I love marijuana and this all seemed like bullshit. Googling around I didn't see anything about thx toxicity that sounded even related to what was going on Until I saw the words "Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome". Every symptom has been dead on. I've spent anywhere from 2-12 hours in a hot bath, when it was at its worst, to try as alleviate the symptoms and once I saw that everything has clicked for me. I have a GI follow up in two months and will be making a family doctor appointment next week and will be bringing up this syndrome to make sure it is a proper diagnosis with both of them.


I didn't read all 18 pages of this thread but I'm glad it is still active. Just because it doesn't affect a huge number of Long term smokers, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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PS we do have a endo cnnabaniod system that is direclty connected to our lymph nods and immune system and well everything in our bodies, it is entirely possible that cannbaniod toxicity exist


but i do agree with you that most of these people are probably defieceint in other aspects of their life, doctors will recommend 5 0r 6 different things to do not just stock smoking, like exorcise, better diet etc...all in all the one thing you do right cannot be completely known

i call it the box of toothpicks scenario doctors give you, drop a box of remedy toothpicks(amounts in 100's) and one of them is the cure, your doctor might help pick em up but more often then not its up to you to find it, one by one


to be honest this illness in the title is impossible to have been known , unless someone has per reviewed papers on the subject i call BS

studies on cannabniods and the human body are extremely restrictive, i highly doubt any such illness has been quantified in any way
 

Samwell Seed Well

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You aren't alone. I just had a scope this morning to try and figure out why I've lost over 60lbs in a 6 month period of mystery illness. Im a 6'0 male that has been smoking multiple times daily for 5 years and weighed 250lbs in April and now I am 185 from all the vomiting I have been doing through the spring summer and fall.


I thought it was a flu at first, so I ignored it and it didn't get better. I went home from work quite a few time violently sick and would spend hours in a hot bath to alleviate the symptoms. Then it would I away for awhile, usually no more than a week to ten days an start right back up. All the while I cut out fast food, meat and it got to the point were I was entirely on a liquid diet in August and September. I passed out at work because I couldn't even keep a bottle of water down without being sick and working in the sun.

After my fourth urgent care visit in ten days for an IV to keep me hydrated and exhausting all the blood tests, celiac screen as repeatedly being told I'm perfectly healthy otherwise, I was finally given my referral to a GI doctor in mid September. I was prescribed 10mg buscopan to take when needed and while it seemed to help I would still have cramping bloatin and abdominal pain. I finally quit smoking about 3 weeks ago for unrelated reasons and I didn't notice immediately but those symptoms have subsided almost completely and I have put back on ten pounds and am able to eat normally again.


The GI doctor today was the first one to ask me about my pot use and once I explained my whole history this morning and she almost immediately said she had seen this in 4 other young men and could almost guarantee it was "THC toxicity". She performed the scope and surprise surprise like every other test I was given everything came back in the clear. I have a follow up in two months and have been advised to avoid dairy and fructose as much as I can, but thc toxicity remained her diagnosis.


So I'm skeptical naturally. Even though I had quit, I love marijuana and this all seemed like bullshit. Googling around I didn't see anything about thx toxicity that sounded even related to what was going on Until I saw the words "Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome". Every symptom has been dead on. I've spent anywhere from 2-12 hours in a hot bath, when it was at its worst, to try as alleviate the symptoms and once I saw that everything has clicked for me. I have a GI follow up in two months and will be making a family doctor appointment next week and will be bringing up this syndrome to make sure it is a proper diagnosis with both of them.


I didn't read all 18 pages of this thread but I'm glad it is still active. Just because it doesn't affect a huge number of Long term smokers, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

their is zero reaerch on cannabis aka POT, your doctor is lying to you , notice the words almost guarantee

thats an oxymoron

and in my book of BS a big red flag

i bet if you asked her how many cannabaniods their were and their functionality in your body she would go cannab what, you mean thc......?
 
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