Can we have a meaningful discussion about the effectiveness of capitalism?

BROBIE said:
You do care Al. my black supremacist, my equal. You are the black me.
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so you're saying you are a white supremacist. that didn't take long.

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^^^Wrong thread dickless^^^

Not fair. Those 55 in the study were from the LA area, porn capital of the world. If the 55 were drawn from RIU and the DC area, it would be much more equitable.

Plus 55 vs 2000+ Whaaaa?
 
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NewtoMJ said:
As much as it's nice to think about everyone being self-governing individuals, it's just not possible. We have seen first hand what happens when there is not a centralized government. Look at Somalia in the 90's, or a handful of other african nations. People without leadership are just cruel.
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This is an interesting point of view you hold. First of all aren't "leaders" also people capable of cruelty? Why would you put some people in charge of other people on an automatic basis, if people are as cruel as you say?

Do "leaders" possess some special benevelant power other people do not?

We have seen first hand what happens when a central authority prevails....


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Rob Roy said:
Not really, although it can require the smallest and best government of all, the self governing individual interacting with another self governing individual on a consensual basis of exchange. This is provable.


You should get out of the rut you are trapped in, it would also be helpful if you left the basement and got some fresh air.
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consensual basis of exchange by one party = monopoly

your theories are for a hunter/gather culture.
 
NewtoMJ said:
As much as it's nice to think about everyone being self-governing individuals, it's just not possible. We have seen first hand what happens when there is not a centralized government. Look at Somalia in the 90's, or a handful of other african nations. People without leadership are just cruel.
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+rep.
 
schuylaar said:
consensual basis of exchange by one party = monopoly

your theories are for a hunter/gather culture.
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I'm afraid you have failed to understand what a consensual exchange is. It is not a monopoly if you can refuse it, counter offer or make an exchange with other people rather than just the one party making an offer.

My theories are what must be done if people are to be free and peaceful. Logic has my back.

Your "theories" are the ones used by people that think it is okay for some people to run others lives....that's alot like slavery isn't it?
 
Rob Roy said:
This is an interesting point of view you hold. First of all aren't "leaders" also people capable of cruelty? Why would you put some people in charge of other people on an automatic basis, if people are as cruel as you say?

Do "leaders" possess some special benevelant power other people do not?

We have seen first hand what happens when a central authority prevails....


motivator_poster.jpg
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I agree that leaders are not always going to deliver, and your examples pictured here are histories we should never forget. I think with the right foundations, and proper execution a happy medium can be struck. While most government officials are more than capable of human error, it's the public transparency that should keep them honest. The founders of the United States had a great foundation, but there were some critical elements left out and over time the execution has been lost. Luckily they have provided a way to correct the issues either through the polls or powder.
 
NewtoMJ said:
I agree that leaders are not always going to deliver, and your examples pictured here are histories we should never forget. I think with the right foundations, and proper execution a happy medium can be struck. While most government officials are more than capable of human error, it's the public transparency that should keep them honest. The founders of the United States had a great foundation, but there were some critical elements left out and over time the execution has been lost. Luckily they have provided a way to correct the issues either through the polls or powder.
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How do you "properly execute" a system that has a basis of some people, using force as a foundation of that system, telling other people, even if the other people are peaceful, how they must live or they will be harmed?

Can you explain where the "happy medium" is in that?
 
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Capitalism sucks balls. I'd like to participate in a better system that allows everyone everywhere to be in the top 1%. And fuck the stupid people that came up with "math" that only allows 1% of people to be in the top 1%. I say top 1% for 100%. And nobody has to do anything.
 
Bugeye said:
Capitalism sucks balls. I'd like to participate in a better system that allows everyone everywhere to be in the top 1%. And fuck the stupid people that came up with "math" that only allows 1% of people to be in the top 1%. I say top 1% for 100%. And nobody has to do anything.
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Just curious....what are you smoking?

It seems very effective, maybe even top 1%.
 
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