Can I use clones in Jiffy pots in DWC?

Land of the Free?

Land of the Free?

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Hello Rollituppers :joint:

The question is above. I'm a hydro newbie so please help. I have my DWC container ready for a plant. My clones are in Jiffy pots. :hug:
 
Land of the Free?

Land of the Free?

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Land of the Free? said:
Hello Rollituppers :joint:

The question is above. I'm a hydro newbie so please help. I have my DWC container ready for a plant. My clones are in Jiffy pots. :hug:
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No one here can tell me if they have put a clone in a jiffy pot directly in the DWC with Hydroton and have no problems? Or do I have to remove it, and or use rockwool in the future. This may be a dumb question but I've searched and have found no evidence of others doing it. Some good person please let me know acceptable mediums for DWC (bubbleponics) Thanks!!
 
Land of the Free?

Land of the Free?

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UserFriendly said:
Yeah man you can do that no problem. The JiffyPot only has to be wet long enough to get the roots to the res.
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Hey I've seen you around here. Hello and thanks for the reply. I figured I could use it but you never know with things. Do you think I should let the roots penetrate the jiffy pot before I stick it on the bubbler? The clones have been going for over 2 weeks. Seems that they wont need as much humidity at this point and having surounded by dark would excelerate root growth.

:joint::peace:
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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Yes you can use the Jiffy pot. use it like you would any rapid rooter plug or rockwool plug - just keep it wet enough like UserFriendly says and roots will be able to pop through and dig into hydroton or whatever you're using as the medium in the net pot.

Just don't let dirt get in the reservoir and clog your airstone.
 
Land of the Free?

Land of the Free?

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KaliKitsune said:
Yes you can use the Jiffy pot. use it like you would any rapid rooter plug or rockwool plug - just keep it wet enough like UserFriendly says and roots will be able to pop through and dig into hydroton or whatever you're using as the medium in the net pot.

Just don't let dirt get in the reservoir and clog your airstone.
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Hey Thanks for the support fellaz. I may need more help as this is my first DWC.
I left you guys positive feedback but my note got cut off for Kali. Oops. My res-water temps are at 80-81 though. Any tips for cheap ways to cool the water-res?:hump:
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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I wouldn't worry about water temp too much as long as you keep the environment temp around the 70s, the cool air bubbling thru the pots will help keep the water cool.
 
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UserFriendly

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Res temps in the 80s.... that's not a great situation. If you are using chem nutes you might be okay, but you should think about dropping in some frozen water bottles if you can. When the plant gets bigger it will shade the res and do a good job of keeping it cool. Also, try to keep the atmosphere at 75*F and the res temps should stay in check.... if you're not using a huge air pump. I don't know what Kali is talking about with "the cool air bubbling through the pots".... when you compress air, it gets hot(ter).

Water is many times more effective than air when it comes to cooling. I'm not sure of the exact statistics, but I've read something like 20+ times more efficient than air. Might want to keep that water-level as high as you can.

:peace:
 
Land of the Free?

Land of the Free?

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UserFriendly said:
Res temps in the 80s.... that's not a great situation. If you are using chem nutes you might be okay, but you should think about dropping in some frozen water bottles if you can. When the plant gets bigger it will shade the res and do a good job of keeping it cool. Also, try to keep the atmosphere at 75*F and the res temps should stay in check.... if you're not using a huge air pump. I don't know what Kali is talking about with "the cool air bubbling through the pots".... when you compress air, it gets hot(ter).

:peace:
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Im using organic hydro nutes hope thats not a big problem with heat. What if temps are just below 80 like 78-79. Would that okay you think? I'm actually running the AC while I'm at work today. Hope it doesn't cost much. So if I use frozen water bottles do I have to worry about dramatic temp change which could stress the plant? Is there a specific process? i wish it didn't get so hot in California. Thanks for help. Talk to you later..:hump:
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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There's a difference between an air pump and an air compressor. In order to make air heat up you'd need much higher pressures than what a tiny air pump can provide. Most air pumps don't even use a compressor, they use a dual-valve pump that pumps air on both strokes (like a dual-action manual bike pump that pumps on both the pull up and push down.)

Cold air through warm water = thermodynamic transfer of heat to the air, which has less heat.

Now if you used an air compressor - well it'd only be hot in the tank. Once it's ejected from the tank under pressure it cools rapidly, just like spraying butane on your finger.
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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An aquarium air pump includes an electromagnetic motor-operated pump unit positioned in the housing of the pump and including two vibrating arms energized by the motor and each carrying a pump diaphragm forming with a closure member of the pump unit casing a pump chamber. Each vibrating arm is positioned on the casing to be pivoted to an operative position to close the respective closure member and a non-operative position in which the arm can be removed from the casing and interchanged. The pump housing includes a bottom part and a top part connectable to each other and sealed in the connected position by a peripheral seal. Cushioning cups support the pump unit in the pump housing to absorb vibrations.

What little compression there might be for pushing out the air is nullified by the thermodynamic effects of the vacuum created to suck in the air. Homeostatic balance in a thermodynamic system.
 
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KaliKitsune said:
An aquarium air pump includes an electromagnetic motor-operated pump unit positioned in the housing of the pump and including two vibrating arms energized by the motor and each carrying a pump diaphragm forming with a closure member of the pump unit casing a pump chamber. Each vibrating arm is positioned on the casing to be pivoted to an operative position to close the respective closure member and a non-operative position in which the arm can be removed from the casing and interchanged. The pump housing includes a bottom part and a top part connectable to each other and sealed in the connected position by a peripheral seal. Cushioning cups support the pump unit in the pump housing to absorb vibrations.

What little compression there might be for pushing out the air is nullified by the thermodynamic effects of the vacuum created to suck in the air. Homeostatic balance in a thermodynamic system.
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Thermodynamic effects of a vacuum....... sounds like insulation to me. :razz:
 
wilsoncr17

wilsoncr17

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UserFriendly said:
Whatever you're smoking, it isn't cannabis. :lol:
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Or is it....?


Anyways, you don't want your rez above 58 F. Any higher than that and you'll have pH problems, root rot, fungus and so on until your plants die.

The jiffy pots will end up shedding into your rez but it's easily cleanable. If your airstones ever get clogged just soak in bleach water and scrub lightly with toothbrush.

Please rinse off bleach water before putting back in the tank though.

:leaf:
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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My reservoirs stay at about 68-72 indoors. I don't have any problems with root rot, or fungus or pH.

Even my outdoor DWC buckets out in the hot Cali sun get hotter than that, and I never have any problems.
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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Glad you made me go out to take pics of the roots, I forgot the tomato blows through water faster than the basil and I had to top it off again.
 
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