Can I grow with these items??

ProteinPapi420

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Light w is not high enough they will still grow but the yeild is gona be really bad... Also you need a humidifier to keep the humidity above 50! Fans would be great too. You also need ph down the water to around 6 somehow since cannabis plants like the water to be more acid. Dont give them too much nutritions the first 2 weeks. Good luck brother✌✌
 

spek9

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Off the top of my head (it would have been nice if you typed out a list of the items instead of forcing people to reference photographs)...

- pH meter
- significantly more lighting
- how are you going to deal with odor?
- how are you going to deal with low/high temperature?
- how are you going to deal with low/high humidity?
- do you have calmag supplement? You'll need it if you're using distilled water

I don't know about the nutrients. I use synthetic ones.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Can you? Yes. Will it end well? Well, most of it is fine, but those lights are useless. You will need way more light to get to harvest.

Did you mix the bone and blood meal into the soil or are you trying to top dress with them?

And what's the hydrogen peroxide for?

Also, no need for distilled water in an organic soil grow. Just use tap. Waste of time.
 

SmokeMo

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Can you? Yes. Will it end well? Well, most of it is fine, but those lights are useless. You will need way more light to get to harvest.

Did you mix the bone and blood meal into the soil or are you trying to top dress with them?

And what's the hydrogen peroxide for?

Also, no need for distilled water in an organic soil grow. Just use tap. Waste of time.
Any ideas on what kind of lights to get?

I’m going to top dress and make compost tea.

I read a grow diary that told me to mix the peroxide in my water.
 

Dannydavito

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Any ideas on what kind of lights to get?

I’m going to top dress and make compost tea.

I read a grow diary that told me to mix the peroxide in my water.
There are three main types of lighting. Each type has ups and downs.

Cfl- CFLs are cheap and versatile. They are low power, so many of them are needed to get a good yield. The versatility comes in the fact that you can start small and buy more as the plants grow and they are available in most stores.

HID- high intensity discharge lamps are the gold standard of growing. Typically metal halide bulbs are used for veg and hps bulbs are used for flower. They are decently cheap with a beginner 400w setup costing around 200 dollars

Led- the most complex of the three lighting groups. If you plan to go the led route do serious research as the amount of cheap Chinese crap and false claims are numerous. If you get a good led you will blow away all other lights in terms of efficiency. Be prepared for a higher price point with LEDs, if it's cheap it's probably too good to be true

I personally use hid lighting.
 

Budzbuddha

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Toss the miracle gro .... there are plenty of good “ already ammended “ potting mixes with blood , bone meal and other elements ready to go right from bag. Local nurseries should be opening up finally . Look for Happy frog , fox farm , EB Stone recipe 420 ( Great mix ) , Kellogg’s organic , Dr. Earth pot o gold / homegrown , etc.

Most good peat based mixes will be all set up for straight growing without buying bags of this and that. And run on tap water.

Items you need :
better lights
ph/ppm pen
calmag
 

PadawanWarrior

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Toss the miracle gro .... there are plenty of good “ already ammended “ potting mixes with blood , bone meal and other elements ready to go right from bag. Local nurseries should be opening up finally . Look for Happy frog , fox farm , EB Stone recipe 420 ( Great mix ) , Kellogg’s organic , Dr. Earth pot o gold / homegrown , etc.

Most good peat based mixes will be all set up for straight growing without buying bags of this and that. And run on tap water.

Items you need :
better lights
ph/ppm pen
calmag
It looks like he's got the decent organic Miracle Grow. I'm not a fan of the regular stuff either.
 

Gentlemencorpse

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Any ideas on what kind of lights to get?

I’m going to top dress and make compost tea.

I read a grow diary that told me to mix the peroxide in my water.
Lights depend on budget and the size of your space, as well as the ventilation in your space. Need more details!

I'm not super familiar with compost teas, but if your gonna go that route, you need to do a lot of research.

Adding hydrogen peroxide is for hydroponics as far as I'm aware. In organics it's an awful idea. It will kill the good microbes and bacteria and do more harm then good.
 

Budzbuddha

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Here is some info on “ miracle gro “ especially the elusive NPK range ....

Miracle-Gro' is a 15-30-15 fertilizer, meaning that that the powder within contains 15 percent nitrogen, 30 percent phosphorous, and 15 percent potassium. Nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium are the three main nutrients needed by plants, the ones plants gobble up in greatest quantity.

However ..... Miracle-Gro is a synthetic fertilizer that contains ammonium phosphate and several other chemicals that can be toxic to your soil and plants. ........ "[Ammonium fertilizer] acidifies the soil, and thus it is probably more harmful to soil organisms than any other nitrogen fertilizer . Scott’s ( parent company ) has had some ” issues “ with falsifying pesticide registration data ... their biggest money maker is in weed killer . Ever noticed ” Scott’s Lawn fertilizer “ how intensely it greens up a lawn , it is hyper loaded with excessive synthetic nutes that can even kill your pets. They were caught ... In 2012, Scotts Miracle-Gro pled guilty in federal court to selling millions of bags of deliberately-poisoned bird food that killed birds and fish.

Think Monsanto and you have miracle gro ..... their soil burns for a reason . They know growers are looking for “ cheap fertilizer “ and soils , they just throw together a toxic mix of chemicals and sell.

Read the following.

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For all the miracle gro fans .... Enjoy your “ CHEM WEED “ ...

Fuck miracle gro , Scott’s , monsanto , Dow Agroscience , Bayer and BASF .
 

PadawanWarrior

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Lights depend on budget and the size of your space, as well as the ventilation in your space. Need more details!

I'm not super familiar with compost teas, but if your gonna go that route, you need to do a lot of research.

Adding hydrogen peroxide is for hydroponics as far as I'm aware. In organics it's an awful idea. It will kill the good microbes and bacteria and do more harm then good.
A good start is to read Teaming with Microbes. I have the PDF file that I got off another site. My plants love it when I make them a tea.
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PadawanWarrior

Well-Known Member
Here is some info on “ miracle gro “ especially the elusive NPK range ....

Miracle-Gro' is a 15-30-15 fertilizer, meaning that that the powder within contains 15 percent nitrogen, 30 percent phosphorous, and 15 percent potassium. Nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium are the three main nutrients needed by plants, the ones plants gobble up in greatest quantity.

However ..... Miracle-Gro is a synthetic fertilizer that contains ammonium phosphate and several other chemicals that can be toxic to your soil and plants. ........ "[Ammonium fertilizer] acidifies the soil, and thus it is probably more harmful to soil organisms than any other nitrogen fertilizer . Scott’s ( parent company ) has had some ” issues “ with falsifying pesticide registration data ... their biggest money maker is in weed killer . Ever noticed ” Scott’s Lawn fertilizer “ how intensely it greens up a lawn , it is hyper loaded with excessive synthetic nutes that can even kill your pets. They were caught ... In 2012, Scotts Miracle-Gro pled guilty in federal court to selling millions of bags of deliberately-poisoned bird food that killed birds and fish.

Think Monsanto and you have miracle gro ..... their soil burns for a reason . They know growers are looking for “ cheap fertilizer “ and soils , they just throw together a toxic mix of chemicals and sell.

Read the following.

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For all the miracle gro fans .... Enjoy your “ CHEM WEED “ ...

Fuck miracle gro , Scott’s , monsanto , Dow Agroscience , Bayer and BASF .
He has the organic Miracle Grow. It doesn't have that shit in it.
 

ProteinPapi420

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Cheap good light is a mars hydro ts600 (600w) My plants love it. Some people say its shitty because they have no idea what is it but my plants love it so much!
 

DCcan

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Looks like there is some powdered blood/bone meal spread on top of your soil, better remove that asap. The roots will burn at this stage.
Thats way too much to mix in for a seedling at this stage Thats for mixing in soil prior to planting, then feeding roots on established plants for side dressing.
 
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