Cali Connection and Greenhouse seeds come together for California Dreaming

dgaf757 · Nov 18, 2012

I see a lot of B.S. posted all the time about people claiming this and that saying Greenhouse is garbage and how unoriginal their strains are.Then I hear praise from those same individuals about Cali Connections authentic strains...So for everyone like that, heres the kick in your ass. Cali Connection-California DreamingGREENHOUSE SEEDS- Super Silver Haze X Cali Connections SFV OG Kush...made by Cali connection. Thank you Swerve, for validating my point that Greenhouse does have some decent quality....annnd for the non believers here ya go.http://store.thecaliconnectionltd.co.uk/seeds/regular seeds?product_id=83

PJ Diaz · Nov 19, 2012

Oh, you mean the SSH cut from the days when GHS was a good breeder, the days when shantibubba was there?

http://www.breederschoicenursery.com/old-sog.html

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice/8701-where-did-ssh-greenhouse-coffeshop-go-1998-2000-a.html

Closetgardner · Nov 20, 2012

Yh the ssh cut ghs have is/has been with them since shantibabba owned ghs. Then when shanti fucked off to Switzerland and sold ghs to arjan, Arjan then went on to take legal action against shanti over ownership of the strains to the ghs company. So they truly are shanti's strains acquired by arjan falsely. Some "king of cannabis"

PJ Diaz · Nov 20, 2012

Closetgardner said:
Yh the ssh cut ghs have is/has been with them since shantibabba owned ghs. Then when shanti fucked off to Switzerland and sold ghs to arjan, Arjan then went on to take legal action against shanti over ownership of the strains to the ghs company. So they truly are shanti's strains acquired by arjan falsely. Some "king of cannabis"

So basically the OP disproved his own point. Lol!

dgaf757 · Nov 20, 2012

how does it disprove it? i didnt say it was arjans cut, i said it was greenhouses cut. so thus this further validates my point that theres still good original genetics that came from greenhouse. i could give a shit less who owns it as long as im still getting the same strains.

so how does this disprove what i said?

it seems like to me that youre all so caught up in he said she said that youre not looking past who now owns the company...and actually looking at the companys product.

PJ Diaz · Nov 20, 2012

dgaf757 said:
how does it disprove it? i didnt say it was arjans cut, i said it was greenhouses cut. so thus this further validates my point that theres still good original genetics that came from greenhouse. i could give a shit less who owns it as long as im still getting the same strains.

so how does this disprove what i said?

it seems like to me that youre all so caught up in he said she said that youre not looking past who now owns the company...and actually looking at the companys product.

The point is the good genetics came from Shantibubba who currently owns Mr Nice seeds. When people talk shit about GHS, they are talking about the current state of affairs, not how it was ten or fifteen years ago. Bottom line is these days GHS sucks and Mr Nice kicks ass.

dgaf757 · Nov 20, 2012

i thought you already made it clear that the SSH at greenhouse is the same SSH that mr nice has, but at a much cheaper price making them much more available for the masses to try. it being the same SSH, if i can save the $, as with a lot of growers...we will.

the politics doesnt concern people looking for good genetics. and apparently swerve wasnt concerned with the politics when he used a GHS SSH to make the california dreaming cross.

growingforfun · Nov 21, 2012

I don't know how good/bad ghs is, I know a lot of people that grow lots of bud they enjoy from them though. I've stayed away from ghs an had less hermies then they have, but that's because ghs has good plants by herming a great plant an it seedin out. Screw the quality if its seeded IMO.

dgaf757 · Nov 21, 2012

ya know, for whatever reason...i have never had an issue with any of my plants hermin out that wasnt my own fault. ive grown a TON of old school GHS strains. i hear about peoples horror stories about every company, GHS, Cali connection, dutch passion, barneys farm, TH seeds, etc but what is seldom seen is someone admitting that they played the key role in them herming.

now im not backing any breeder or seed Co because i see it posted everywhere...but how often do you see plants herm out and the grower go..."yea i had my lights too close" or the classic "i found light leaks once i saw the hermies". common, no one wants to admit when theyre wrong. now there are the times ive seen the same seed from the same company go herm every time even when there was no error by grower, so its not always...but a lot of the time the grower wants to turn and blame the company. again its not always but its more commonly the grower vs the company.

Uncle Pirate · Nov 22, 2012

I guarantee the pheno of SSh they are using isn't any pheno of SSH that you can still find in GHS beans. It's an old cut from before the drama, feminizing, and Franco. Greenhouse isn't even the same company as when that cut was born. So praising GHS because swerve is using an old cut of ssh from them is silly.

PJ Diaz · Nov 23, 2012

dgaf757 said:
i thought you already made it clear that the SSH at greenhouse is the same SSH that mr nice has, but at a much cheaper price making them much more available for the masses to try. it being the same SSH, if i can save the $, as with a lot of growers...we will.

Actually that's not what I said. I didn't say they were the same. What I said is that Mr Nice is the original, and who knows what GHS is trying to pawn off as the original.

dgaf757 said:
the politics doesnt concern people looking for good genetics. and apparently swerve wasnt concerned with the politics when he used a GHS SSH to make the california dreaming cross.

Actually I would guess he was quite concerned, which is why he didn't use a current GHS cut. It's pretty clear in his description that it's an old school original GHS cut:

Old Sog Super Silver Haze X SFV OGK IBL.
We wanted to bring some sativa to our catelog so we brought an original Greenhouse SSh cut that flowers in 8 weeks and crossed it to our SFV OGK IBL male..Expect great yeilds, Super sandalwood meets lemon pledge..LST, topping and training will yeild for you well.
8-9 weeks flower time

Uncle Pirate said:
I guarantee the pheno of SSh they are using isn't any pheno of SSH that you can still find in GHS beans. It's an old cut from before the drama, feminizing, and Franco. Greenhouse isn't even the same company as when that cut was born. So praising GHS because swerve is using an old cut of ssh from them is silly.

^^THIS^^

dgaf757 · Nov 26, 2012

For the whole sake of it. is mr nice using this same cut of SSH?

I couldnt for any reason without something other than someone saying "i dont think its the same one" come up with validation that it isnt. which would lead me to believe that the cup winning SSH that was shantis creation that he left with GHS wouldnt be further altered by the GHS team. Arjan is a damn good business man, everybody can agree to that, and changing something that already proved to win cups would be stupid. So reversing this SSH and mass producing it, as well as crossing it to a lemon skunk to win another cup seem to fall right in line with his tactics to sell his brand, in turn selling his winning product...SSH.

so if these arent the genetics in the beans, what ARE the genetics now a days? something beyond a pick and a poke, and someones "humble opinion".

PJ Diaz · Nov 26, 2012

dgaf757 said:
For the whole sake of it. is mr nice using this same cut of SSH?

I couldnt for any reason without something other than someone saying "i dont think its the same one" come up with validation that it isnt. which would lead me to believe that the cup winning SSH that was shantis creation that he left with GHS wouldnt be further altered by the GHS team. Arjan is a damn good business man, everybody can agree to that, and changing something that already proved to win cups would be stupid. So reversing this SSH and mass producing it, as well as crossing it to a lemon skunk to win another cup seem to fall right in line with his tactics to sell his brand, in turn selling his winning product...SSH.

so if these arent the genetics in the beans, what ARE the genetics now a days? something beyond a pick and a poke, and someones "humble opinion".

Dude, an IBL is nowhere near the same as the offspring from the original parents. Just stop saying dumb shit, umkay?

Fresh 2 De@th · Nov 27, 2012

i read on a couple of occasions that Shanti took all parental stock with him when he left (Shanti words not mine). don't know where you got your info from, but it's incorrect

baddfish99 · Dec 30, 2012

It is my understanding that Shantibaba owned all of the breeding parents and took those with him when he left GHS. Arjan, owns the name but not the parents that created the original. With out the parents he doesn't have the ability to sell the same product that GHS had in the old days.

I first smoked SSH back in the late nineties and it was some of the best smoke that I can remember. This last summer I grew out a batch of GHS Super Silver Haze seeds that I acquired through the attitude. To be honest, these were the worst seeds I have ever grown out. I was beyond disappointed and would recommend people to search for a better strain or to order SSH from MR. Nice.

To say that Green House Seed company has original SSH is just laughable. If I ever try this strain again I will spend the extra money and buy from Mr. Nice and opt for regular seeds and not feminized.

baddfish99 · Dec 30, 2012

dgaf757 said:
For the whole sake of it. is mr nice using this same cut of SSH?

I couldnt for any reason without something other than someone saying "i dont think its the same one" come up with validation that it isnt. which would lead me to believe that the cup winning SSH that was shantis creation that he left with GHS wouldnt be further altered by the GHS team. Arjan is a damn good business man, everybody can agree to that, and changing something that already proved to win cups would be stupid. So reversing this SSH and mass producing it, as well as crossing it to a lemon skunk to win another cup seem to fall right in line with his tactics to sell his brand, in turn selling his winning product...SSH.

so if these arent the genetics in the beans, what ARE the genetics now a days? something beyond a pick and a poke, and someones "humble opinion".

Try Google, there are endless articles about Shanti and Arjans break up. Shantibaba himself has written in great detail about this. The information is out there and easily available.

OGEvilgenius · Dec 30, 2012

It's not the current GHS SSH. It clearly states "OLD" Greenhouse. In other words, it's a Mr Nice cut. Only an old one. Shanti has lost a lot of the original mothers and fathers, but he has proper breeding practices and it doesn't really matter. He open pollinates large greenhouses/rooms so the genetics are still very much there to be had (from Mr Nice).

OGEvilgenius · Dec 30, 2012

dgaf757 said:
For the whole sake of it. is mr nice using this same cut of SSH?

I couldnt for any reason without something other than someone saying "i dont think its the same one" come up with validation that it isnt. which would lead me to believe that the cup winning SSH that was shantis creation that he left with GHS wouldnt be further altered by the GHS team. Arjan is a damn good business man, everybody can agree to that, and changing something that already proved to win cups would be stupid. So reversing this SSH and mass producing it, as well as crossing it to a lemon skunk to win another cup seem to fall right in line with his tactics to sell his brand, in turn selling his winning product...SSH.

so if these arent the genetics in the beans, what ARE the genetics now a days? something beyond a pick and a poke, and someones "humble opinion".

SSH is Skunk, NL & Haze. With it being haze dominant. So is Mango haze, different order. I forget which order is which.

God knows what Arjan's SSH is, you'd have to ask him, because only he and the person who he buys his seeds from knows.

jhod58vw · Dec 30, 2012

Thats going to be a good one

thump easy · Mar 30, 2015

It was a dam good one fuck its gone!!!!!

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