Calcium Hyopochorite dosage

petedavid

Member
Hi guys,

I am running 100L reseviors, sterile, using 35% H2O2 @ 1.5m/L twice a week, for the past few months. Moving to Calcium Hypochlorite to reduce costs.

Using this calculator https://handymath.com/cgi-bin/chlorined4.cgi

To get 5ppm of Chlorine into 100L of water, using 65% available granules, I will need 0.8g per dosage to acheive desired results?

Does this math match up with others experience with Calcium Hypochlorite?

Also, is there much different between Sodium and Calcium Hypochlorites?
 

Phat J

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petedavid

Member
Legend.
To figure for 2 ppm of TOTAL chlorine is simple.

Remember 1mg/L = 1 ppm

So 2 ppm would be 2 mg per liter of water.

100 gallons = 378.5 liters. So 378.5 x 2 = 757 mg

But its only 49 percent strong. So 757/.49=1545 mg or 1.545 g
5ppm = 5mg/L

100L = 500mg

Account for 65% strength. 500/.65 = 769mg.

Is this the correct calculation method?

I might start around .5g per 100L and see where that takes me.
 

rkymtnman

Well-Known Member
Legend.


5ppm = 5mg/L

100L = 500mg

Account for 65% strength. 500/.65 = 769mg.

Is this the correct calculation method?

I might start around .5g per 100L and see where that takes me.
5ppm is the upper safe limit. i'd go for 3ppm as a middle ground. i dosed mine 1x a week with 3ppm and had great results. if you have rot, i'd think about 2x a week at 2-3ppm.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Legend.


5ppm = 5mg/L

100L = 500mg

Account for 65% strength. 500/.65 = 769mg.

Is this the correct calculation method?

I might start around .5g per 100L and see where that takes me.
Calcium hypochlorite is about 50% by weight free chlorine when pure.

So 500 mg /50% /65% is 1.5 grams
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Bullshit, you have 65% strength as being MORE than 100%.
In order to get the dose, you have to take the pure-compound weight target and divide. Otherwise you’re shorting your solution by the square of the purity, in this case 0.65 x 0.65 = 0.42.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I give up. Waste of fucking time.
It is a back calculation from a specified target weight of free chlorine. You’re not gonna get 500 mg of free chlorine from 325 mg of a salt that is 50% chlorine even before factoring in the impurity of the solid.

With respect: you are dispensing harmful advice in this instance.
 

petedavid

Member
5ppm is the upper safe limit. i'd go for 3ppm as a middle ground. i dosed mine 1x a week with 3ppm and had great results. if you have rot, i'd think about 2x a week at 2-3ppm.
Awesome :) will run 3ppm and go from there.

Calcium hypochlorite is about 50% by weight free chlorine when pure.

So 500 mg /50% /65% is 1.5 grams
Thanks for response.
Is the 50% you have added not the 65% I have used in the calculation? Excuse my misunderstanding, but isn't all Calcium Hypochorite free chorline untill it reacts with something in the water?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Awesome :) will run 3ppm and go from there.



Thanks for response.
Is the 50% you have added not the 65% I have used in the calculation? Excuse my misunderstanding, but isn't all Calcium Hypochorite free chorline untill it reacts with something in the water?
No. It generates free chlorine, but you get 71 grams free chlorine from 143 grams pure calcium hypochlorite or 220 grams of 65%.

So about 1/3 of whatever you weigh out is the mass of active chlorine.
 

petedavid

Member
No. It generates free chlorine, but you get 71 grams free chlorine from 143 grams pure calcium hypochlorite or 220 grams of 65%.

So about 1/3 of whatever you weigh out is the mass of active chlorine.
Thanks for the response :) Do you have a source or further reading to find out more about this? I had a google and could not find much :/
 

memoponics

Active Member
I know this is a bit dated, but i happened to see this thread, and no one really responded with any solid answers. One guy was giving some crazy numbers, so i felt it pertinent to weigh in here. OP, you were on the right track in the first place. What follows is how the calculations should go for pool shock @65% calcium hypochlorite :

1ppm=1mg/L
Target of 5 ppm = 5mg/L

Pool shock @ 65% calcium hypochlorite is 60% free chlorine if you read the fine print on the bag, so 1mg shock actually contains 0.6 mg free chlorine, which means you have to add 40% more shock to make up for the difference.

5mg / 0.6 = 8.33 mg shock to achieve 5 ppm/L
100L res x 8.33mg = 833.33mg
833.33mg/1000mg per g = 0.83g

You can also do it this way:
5mg x 0.6 = 3mg
5mg + 3mg = 8mg/L to acheive approx 5ppm
8mg/L x 100L = 800mg
800mg / 1000mg per g = 0.8g

You technically get the same answer, but doing it the first way is more accurate because it gives you those extra decimal places. This is due to the fact that the extra shock you have to add is also only 60%, and doing it the first way takes that into account and adds the difference to the total. The second way is often easier to do in your head but is less accurate.

So 0.83g shock in 100L water will give you 5ppm free chlorine by the numbers. If your scale is only accurate to 1 gram, add shock until it just barely registers 1g and thats plenty accurate enough. Just dissolve it in a cup of warm water and dump it in at res fill or whenever you need some defunking.

Keep in mind that tap water already contains 1-4 ppm chlorine depending on your water source, so your final chlorine level will actually be higher than 5ppm. We are simply adding 5 ppm to whatever came out of the tap by this method. This fact is often overlooked in these discussions.

There is a lot of different info available out there for this, but i would avoid looking at cannabis oriented sites if you want accurate info honestly. As you can see, you will get a lot of different, sometimes vague, sometimes nonsensical answers, and respondents will likely argue with eachother about what the correct answer is even though they're both wrong. Google ppm calculations, dilution calculations, batch proportioning etc. Also calcium hypochlorite for horticulture or pool shock calculations for hydroponics, or chlorine water disinfection calculations. Google chlorine use in horticulture or greenhouses if you want to settle your mind about what is or isnt a safe level. Studies have found that damage commonly attributed to chlorine was usually caused by other factors, and they have also found that container plants can tolerate chlorine levels as high as 150ppm. Additionally they found some strains of pythium required 20ppm for 15 minutes contact time in order to be killed.
Any other questions feel free to hit back or pm.
 

Destroyer of chairs

Well-Known Member
I know this is a bit dated, but i happened to see this thread, and no one really responded with any solid answers. One guy was giving some crazy numbers, so i felt it pertinent to weigh in here. OP, you were on the right track in the first place. What follows is how the calculations should go for pool shock @65% calcium hypochlorite :

1ppm=1mg/L
Target of 5 ppm = 5mg/L

Pool shock @ 65% calcium hypochlorite is 60% free chlorine if you read the fine print on the bag, so 1mg shock actually contains 0.6 mg free chlorine, which means you have to add 40% more shock to make up for the difference.

5mg / 0.6 = 8.33 mg shock to achieve 5 ppm/L
100L res x 8.33mg = 833.33mg
833.33mg/1000mg per g = 0.83g

You can also do it this way:
5mg x 0.6 = 3mg
5mg + 3mg = 8mg/L to acheive approx 5ppm
8mg/L x 100L = 800mg
800mg / 1000mg per g = 0.8g

You technically get the same answer, but doing it the first way is more accurate because it gives you those extra decimal places. This is due to the fact that the extra shock you have to add is also only 60%, and doing it the first way takes that into account and adds the difference to the total. The second way is often easier to do in your head but is less accurate.

So 0.83g shock in 100L water will give you 5ppm free chlorine by the numbers. If your scale is only accurate to 1 gram, add shock until it just barely registers 1g and thats plenty accurate enough. Just dissolve it in a cup of warm water and dump it in at res fill or whenever you need some defunking.

Keep in mind that tap water already contains 1-4 ppm chlorine depending on your water source, so your final chlorine level will actually be higher than 5ppm. We are simply adding 5 ppm to whatever came out of the tap by this method. This fact is often overlooked in these discussions.

There is a lot of different info available out there for this, but i would avoid looking at cannabis oriented sites if you want accurate info honestly. As you can see, you will get a lot of different, sometimes vague, sometimes nonsensical answers, and respondents will likely argue with eachother about what the correct answer is even though they're both wrong. Google ppm calculations, dilution calculations, batch proportioning etc. Also calcium hypochlorite for horticulture or pool shock calculations for hydroponics, or chlorine water disinfection calculations. Google chlorine use in horticulture or greenhouses if you want to settle your mind about what is or isnt a safe level. Studies have found that damage commonly attributed to chlorine was usually caused by other factors, and they have also found that container plants can tolerate chlorine levels as high as 150ppm. Additionally they found some strains of pythium required 20ppm for 15 minutes contact time in order to be killed.
Any other questions feel free to hit back or pm.
Thank u for taking the time posting.
 
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