Cal mag def/ph/rust spot fungus? Ideas?

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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enough in the trio - yes
As long as the light wasn't closer then 16 inch's, they were fine.
Just run them out to finish and be done with them.

Start with fresh good soil and begin the next grow.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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King Daddy G said:
Btw could adding say fruits and veggies mixing it composting indoors in a large container help fuel up my soil maybe get some earthworms in there or would it get pretty foul waste of time?? Good nutes and micros can't get my soil up not with cannabis is this causing issues too? Thanks.
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spend your efforts on tightening up your grow space controls. dont worry about specialized composting till you get this mj growing down. use good soil, maybe promix, add nothing but organicare crumble fert, and quality water, now move on to your light, your temps, your humidity, your pests, its easy peasy now, you'll see.
 
King Daddy G

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chemphlegm said:
spend your efforts on tightening up your grow space controls. dont worry about specialized composting till you get this mj growing down. use good soil, maybe promix, add nothing but organicare crumble fert, and quality water, now move on to your light, your temps, your humidity, your pests, its easy peasy now, you'll see.
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Quality water as in what kinds of water? Tap water left out fine?? The promix need some perlite added like 50/50 or what? Which organicare products do I need thanks? If perlite added what brand? Anything else I should add and specifics?
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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King Daddy G said:
Quality water as in what kinds of water? Tap water left out fine?? The promix need some perlite added like 50/50 or what? Which organicare products do I need thanks? If perlite added what brand? Anything else I should add and specifics?
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if its municipal supply maybe a good idea. well water should be (dnr) tested to know your content.
I dont buy perlite, if I did I'd get the big chunky stuff, promix has plenty for me.

if you're the type that likes to add things often..



if not
follow the directions with both
 
King Daddy G

King Daddy G

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chemphlegm said:
if its municipal supply maybe a good idea. well water should be (dnr) tested to know your content.
I dont buy perlite, if I did I'd get the big chunky stuff, promix has plenty for me.

if you're the type that likes to add things often..



if not
follow the directions with both
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Ok thanks I am new here it will not let me like your reply back ..
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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King Daddy G said:
Ok thanks I am new here it will not let me like your reply back ..
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give it time nugget, you'll have more forum rights soon.
a thanks did suffice, thank you.

I personally use both of those producTS. I compare my results to ;

100k worm farm, eating only cannabis leaves, producing worm tea, worm compost, worm poop
6 californian giant cannabis scraps and grass fed bunnies cranking out poop pellets every hour, rabbit poop tea, straight pellets

organicare results surpassed dutch master gold, sensi, mother earth, an, cns, jacks citrus, jobes,
ionic, gh, and more I dont recall.
 
King Daddy G

King Daddy G

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chemphlegm said:
give it time nugget, you'll have more forum rights soon.
a thanks did suffice, thank you.

I personally use both of those producTS. I compare my results to ;

100k worm farm, eating only cannabis leaves, producing worm tea, worm compost, worm poop
6 californian giant cannabis scraps and grass fed bunnies cranking out poop pellets every hour, rabbit poop tea, straight pellets

organicare results surpassed dutch master gold, sensi, mother earth, an, cns, jacks citrus, jobes,
ionic, gh, and more I dont recall.
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Ok few days later almost right away after I sprayed a complete Ortho disease fungicide and solid doses of calcium magnesium the old bad leaves all dried up curled up strong they are really eaten up and the good leaves all look good still and bud hairs look solid does that mean it was def calcium I did not think it was rust spot due to the fact it did not hit the two healthy ones ..?
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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King Daddy G said:
Ok few days later almost right away after I sprayed a complete Ortho disease fungicide and solid doses of calcium magnesium the old bad leaves all dried up curled up strong they are really eaten up and the good leaves all look good still and bud hairs look solid does that mean it was def calcium I did not think it was rust spot due to the fact it did not hit the two healthy ones ..?
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From memory ur in flower?? If so its normal for the plant to use the sugars in fan leaves midway and the end of the grow.. They die off as they are used up.

If Dr who reckoned it was Cal/mag..it probably was. Hard to give a plant to much.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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I don't think leaves shrivel up and die halfway through flower on a healthy plant. The only time I get that on my indoor plants is if something is going wrong, otherwise they stay pretty healthy till chop. My outdoor girls do fade and no matter what or how much I could throw at them, they will still fade off, fading off and rusty, shrivelled up leaves are not the same.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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Lucky Luke said:
From memory ur in flower?? If so its normal for the plant to use the sugars in fan leaves midway and the end of the grow.. They die off as they are used up.

If Dr who reckoned it was Cal/mag..it probably was. Hard to give a plant to much.
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kidding? its very easy to feed too much cal/mag, and the results are a fail
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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King Daddy G said:
Ok few days later almost right away after I sprayed a complete Ortho disease fungicide and solid doses of calcium magnesium the old bad leaves all dried up curled up strong they are really eaten up and the good leaves all look good still and bud hairs look solid does that mean it was def calcium I did not think it was rust spot due to the fact it did not hit the two healthy ones ..?
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so, the spray cured a deficiency seen in some leaves, afterwards they dried up and curled.??.....doesnt sound like they were cured, anymore than removing them .
 
King Daddy G

King Daddy G

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Yea not sure why they dried up the bad leaves they dried lifted up kinda odd right .. did they need calcium super bad maybe? The good leaves are still looking good. Just the leaves that was effected ..
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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Lucky Luke said:
I use it nearly every watering..never had a problem..Cannabis loves the stuff.
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I use spring water, maybe makes the difference I dunno. I watched my neighbor use it to, on all of his plants he was told were calmag deficient, I watched him dose per instruction on the bottle and every plant fed it to suffered. Calcium toxicity is easy to achieve, google it many pics are found. I dont use, I have some, but dont need it. My soils are built correctly needing no additional additives, plus my spring water, directly drawn from under the the grow room likely compliments my nutritional feeding program.

easy to imagine those with little calcium in their water, poor soil builds, municipal or RO water do benefit from completing the feed with cal/mag. I didnt use it in hydro and dont use it in soil, got the best plants ever with nary a signs of deficiency.
 
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