busted on the spot.my story and now what?

robert 14617

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leaving the bar last night i was hammered , three cop cars were in the parking lot i could have been taken in for public intoxication so i played along and answered there questions ie... have you been drinking ... where do you live so on , the county sherif deputy drove me home , of cours i live within 4 blocks ,i was sure i was going to county lockup ....i have a renewed respect for our county law informant...rob
 

tinyTURTLE

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one time back in 1998 i got a ride home from some cops. i had 25 plants in a room under my garage.
they left on the way to bust a keg party at a nearby resivior.
 

RickWhite

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so i went to mcdonalds got a milk shake ( there was about 5 cops there standing around talking w/e) after going thru drive thru at mcdonalds i drive downtown and park in a slightly more secluded area, its dark, its midnight im sitting here rolling a joint enjoying the milkshake, know one is around, know other cars around near me and all of a sudden i get a spot light shining straight thru my car, i knew it was police so i quickly hid everything under my seat, grinder, like an 8th of bud, and some rollin papers, he asks me what are you doing out here, i told him enjoying my mcdonalds milkshake, hes like "oh yea, well the only reason why i know people come out to here is to do drugs or make babies" then asks me if i was smoking pot, i told him earlier that day i was, he asks me if i have any thing in the car, i told him some pot and a grinder, he asks me how much, i told him a little less than an 8th, he asks for my id, tells me to sit tight and that hell brb, so when he gets back he asks me to step out fo the car, i kiddingly reply with "should i just go hop in the back seat of your car" he just repeated him self and said na step out of the car for me, so i do, he asks me to lean up against the back of my car and put my hands around my back, he puts me under arrest and ask if i had anything else on me weapons drugs ect... said no, ( and i didnt have anything else on me) so he pats me down and walks me to his car, i get in, and by this time 5 other police have shown up and there out there discussing the current situation i assume, then i see them all start searching my car top to bottom, trunk and all had every thing a mess in there, now i know why there called pigs... lol... so any he comes back to me saying is this your first time being arrested and all and i tell him yeah first time never had any trouble ever before except for a speeding ticket...wich was payed off and cleared from my record, so he ends up telling me that since i was so cooperative that he doesnt wanna arrest me cause then he would have to tow my car so he confiscates my 70 dollar grinder, my little less than an 8th... and the new pack of rollin papers lol and lets me go...about a week later i get documentation staing that im being charged with possesion of pot, and possesion of paraphernalia in wich my state (maryland) has a max fine of 1000 dollars/1 year in jail for each charge and im scheduled togoto court in like a month. whats going to happen? what should i do? what shouldnt i do? how do i prepare for this? since this is liek the first time will this be like a slap on the wrist pay a fine and never talk of it again kinda thing? will it be on my record forever?
Don't worry, hire a lawyer if you can afford one or ask for a court appointed one at your arraignment. He will get you a deal and you will most likely get probation. you might have random drug tests for 6 months or a year. You might even get it taken under advisement so that it will not go on your record.

Next time think about what you are doing. Don't sit in your car rolling a joint in a local hot spot and don't admit to having weed. You were honest with the cops and where did it get you - in trouble. Unless the cop was willing to lie which also happens.
 

poopmaster

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Here is some helpful information that I've saved to refer back to...

Don't Talk to the Police - 49 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nucAn law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters - 45 minutes

Know Your Rights When Encountering Law Enforcement
24 page pamphlet by the ACLU

And while I hope you never consent to an interview (interrogation) by the police, you should at least know what they're going to try to do to you...
How Police Interrogation Works

The best thing to do is assert your rights and remain silent. If they arrest you, hash it out in court, not there with the officer.
 

Smucker G

Active Member
Here is some helpful information that I've saved to refer back to...

Don't Talk to the Police - 49 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nucAn law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police.

BUSTED: The Citizen's Guide to Surviving Police Encounters - 45 minutes

Know Your Rights When Encountering Law Enforcement
24 page pamphlet by the ACLU

And while I hope you never consent to an interview (interrogation) by the police, you should at least know what they're going to try to do to you...
How Police Interrogation Works

The best thing to do is assert your rights and remain silent. If they arrest you, hash it out in court, not there with the officer.
Great post. +rep. Hope some take this advice.
 

ganjaluvr

Well-Known Member
so i went to mcdonalds got a milk shake ( there was about 5 cops there standing around talking w/e) after going thru drive thru at mcdonalds i drive downtown and park in a slightly more secluded area, its dark, its midnight im sitting here rolling a joint enjoying the milkshake, know one is around, know other cars around near me and all of a sudden i get a spot light shining straight thru my car, i knew it was police so i quickly hid everything under my seat, grinder, like an 8th of bud, and some rollin papers, he asks me what are you doing out here, i told him enjoying my mcdonalds milkshake, hes like "oh yea, well the only reason why i know people come out to here is to do drugs or make babies" then asks me if i was smoking pot, i told him earlier that day i was, he asks me if i have any thing in the car, i told him some pot and a grinder, he asks me how much, i told him a little less than an 8th, he asks for my id, tells me to sit tight and that hell brb, so when he gets back he asks me to step out fo the car, i kiddingly reply with "should i just go hop in the back seat of your car" he just repeated him self and said na step out of the car for me, so i do, he asks me to lean up against the back of my car and put my hands around my back, he puts me under arrest and ask if i had anything else on me weapons drugs ect... said no, ( and i didnt have anything else on me) so he pats me down and walks me to his car, i get in, and by this time 5 other police have shown up and there out there discussing the current situation i assume, then i see them all start searching my car top to bottom, trunk and all had every thing a mess in there, now i know why there called pigs... lol... so any he comes back to me saying is this your first time being arrested and all and i tell him yeah first time never had any trouble ever before except for a speeding ticket...wich was payed off and cleared from my record, so he ends up telling me that since i was so cooperative that he doesnt wanna arrest me cause then he would have to tow my car so he confiscates my 70 dollar grinder, my little less than an 8th... and the new pack of rollin papers lol and lets me go...about a week later i get documentation staing that im being charged with possesion of pot, and possesion of paraphernalia in wich my state (maryland) has a max fine of 1000 dollars/1 year in jail for each charge and im scheduled togoto court in like a month. whats going to happen? what should i do? what shouldnt i do? how do i prepare for this? since this is liek the first time will this be like a slap on the wrist pay a fine and never talk of it again kinda thing? will it be on my record forever?

Actually, your first mistake.. which led to you getting caught.. was parking your car and sitting in it late at night in a "high crime" area. That's why you got caught.

Little advice for ya man.. next time... wait until you get HOME before you go rolling a joint eh? sheeeesh. I mean seriously.. you were asking for trouble once you decided to park your car to roll a joint.. in a "high crime" area. It sucks.. I know, but if you wouldn't have parked your car to roll a joint.. you would have never gotten caught my friend.

This story should serve as a learning experience for others. Point in case: Don't park your car in a high crime area to roll a joint.. in the weeee hours of the freaking morning!!!! LOL.

genius..

peace.
 

Juicy Fruit

Active Member
I dunno laws are different everywhere but in Ontario all you have to do is say no to a search and then they can search your vehicle, happened to a few friends. If they suspect you of carrying something illegal then they have probable cause to search when they stop you. It's very dirty but all within the law.
 

Smucker G

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I dunno laws are different everywhere but in Ontario all you have to do is say no to a search and then they can search your vehicle, happened to a few friends. If they suspect you of carrying something illegal then they have probable cause to search when they stop you. It's very dirty but all within the law.
That makes no sense. In the US if you say no to a search thay can NOT search without cause. Refusing a search is not admittion of guilt.
 

Dropastone

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http://www.aclu.org/2008/09/17/this-is-your-bill-of-rightson-drugs



You probably remember the good ole' frying pan, fried egg, fried brain anti-drug commercial from back in the day. If taking a good beating from a frying pan is what happens to your brain on drugs, you should check out what's happened to your Bill of Rights on drugs.



Almost 40 years ago, perhaps sparking the Bush team's bright idea to declare a "war on terror," President Nixon declared a "war on drugs." By the time George Bush Sr. entered the White House in 1989, a Washington Post-ABC News Poll found that 62 percent of Americans would be willing to give up a few of their freedoms in order to fight the war on drugs. And Uncle Sam has been more than willing to take them up on it. Most of the court cases within the past 40 years that have methodically abridged individual rights like freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures and property rights, have all concerned drugs. Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall even coined a term for the growing practice of sacrificing constitutional rights in the name of the fighting drugs: the "drug exception."
It seems appropriate on this Constitution Day to take a few moments to mourn all that we've lost from the Bill of Rights and the Constitution due to these "drug exceptions:"

Freedom from Unreasonable Search and Seizure:
Perhaps the big loser of all has been the Fourth Amendment, which limits the power of the government to enter and search one's private property. Think about it: Unlike other crimes, drug offenses do not often have complaining witnesses (i.e.: people who come forward to request police assistance). The parties who use, sell or manufacture drugs are consenting participants who likely wish to hide their drug activity. In order to unearth drug crimes, the police must engage in wiretapping, surveillance, undercover operations, the use of confidential informants, entrapment by offering to buy or sell drugs, and countless other practices that strike at the heart of what the Fourth Amendment is all about. In the name of the drug war, courts have allowed suspicionless drug testing of wide swaths of students and private employees, and the State of Michigan almost got away with conducting random drug testing of welfare recipients. The incidence of surprise, paramilitary-style raids on people's homes – and courts' approval of them – in the name of routine drug policing has skyrocketed in recent years. Similarly, courts have repeatedly given the stamp of approval to the ever-increasing use of police drug dogs to search homes, cars, bags and people.

Freedom of Speech:
When it comes to speaking out against the government's drug policy, the right to free speech has also fallen prey to the drug war. In 2007, the U.S. Supreme Court carved out a "drug exception" to one of the most central tenets of free speech jurisprudence: the government cannot discriminate on the basis of the viewpoints being expressed in speech. In Morse v. Frederick the Court ruled that a student's speech could be censored at a school-related event (even outside the school), not because it was disruptive or because it provoked imminent lawlessness, but because it contained the word "bong." The Court drew on other drug-related precedent to find that when it comes to students in the school context (and even students who are near a school, as in this case), the government can make exceptions to free speech rights when it comes to speech about drugs.

Freedom of Religion:
In a 1990 case brought by Native Americans who use peyote for religious purposes, the U.S. Supreme Court shunned the longstanding rules protecting the free exercise of religion and ruled that all religious practices give way to the general laws of the land – in this case drug laws. In response, Congress passed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) which restored the rights of people to participate in religious activities even when their practices appear to be in tension with other laws. The U.S. Supreme Court subsequently struck down RFRA protections as applied to state laws so that when state laws and religious practices conflict, the state laws essentially win out. The silver lining, however, is that courts have ruled that RFRA protections remain intact in matters of federal law, such as in the case of Gonzales v. UDV (involving a church's use of ayuhausca tea as part of its ritual, in conflict with federal drug laws) and Guam v. Guerrero (involving Rastafarians' religious use of marijuana, in conflict with federal drug laws). Currently, courts are considering the legality of the Church of Cognizance's religious use of marijuana.

Right to Vote:
Because the laws of many states continue to deny voting rights to those with current or prior felony convictions – many of them for drug offenses – an entire class of citizens has been shut out of the democratic process. To date, an estimated 5 million Americans have lost their fundamental right to vote, and in 11 states you can be barred from voting for life.
These are just a few of the "drug exceptions" to the Constitution. To learn more about how our basic rights as Americans have been compromised in the context of the drug war, check out the excellent article, "This Is Your Bill of Rights, On Drugs," by the director of the ACLU Drug Law Reform Project, Graham Boyd, and writer Jack Hitt.
If you think the original drafters of the Constitution would be rolling over in their graves about now, you're probably right. While it's unlikely, in a time before the existence of heat-sensing surveillance, wiretapping and drug testing technologies, that they could have imagined the kind of power our government would someday have over our private lives, the drafters did include important, explicit rights in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights meant to shield individuals from just the kind of insidious government overreach we have sadly seen come to pass in recent years.
Constitution Day reminds us that all the good words written on a piece of paper (which, as some historians have suggested, may have even been made from industrial hemp, which is made of marijuana, now an illegal, Schedule I drug) don't mean a thing unless today's judges and policymakers interpret and enforce the rights that they accord to us all. This makes our role as the people to whom policymakers and elected officials are accountable all the more critical.
Let's hope that public views on civil liberties and the drug war have changed since 1989 when 62 percent of us said that we'd accept a "drug exception" to the Constitution. There's good reason to think the tide is shifting. Polls consistently show that a strong majority of Americans think the drug war is a failure and that resources should be shifted away from arrest, prosecution and prison and toward treatment and education. But the fact remains that the United States remains the world's largest jailer of drug offenders, disenfranchises an entire class of people with drug convictions and even denies educational funding to would-be students with drug convictions.

If history is any lesson, our constitutional rights will continue to slip away in the name of the drug war unless we fight to keep them. Here's to keeping up the fight. Happy Constitution Day!
 

TheAngryLiberal

Active Member
There are ways you can get it expunged and there is no fucking way you'd get jail time for an 8th especially on a first offense. Check your state laws to find how to get it expunged.
 

Smucker G

Active Member
saying no to the cop makes you look suspicious and gives them probable cause, catch 22 kinda thing.
Know your rights. That is not true. There is nothing wrong with using the rights you have. Don't be a punk and let a cop scare you out of your rights.
 

TheAngryLiberal

Active Member
Yeah that's not probable cause I was an mp. You don't have to let them search, but they could get a dog and lie and say the dog hit when it didn't .
 

Beacon

Active Member
Yeah that's not probable cause I was an mp. You don't have to let them search, but they could get a dog and lie and say the dog hit when it didn't .
I just moved from a redder than red state, and that's what they had started doing. Pull ya over, the minute you say no to the search, they bring the dog, he hits, you get a 12 or 18 hr hold, they impound the car and if they find something they charge you, if not, you are released. Sure, if you got the money, and its not a smaller town where they all play together in the legal system, you might get out of it, but it'd cost some coin. They had also started a deal where, dude was burning one on his porch, went in, the cops drove by, smelled it supposedly, if he didn't see him, asked for search, said no, he was back within 45 minutes with warrant. The other thing if they get any call on you at all, or a suspicious activity call, they'll twist it into a check the well being of a person and try to come on in. I wouldn't live in a city limits situation again, I don't think. Listen to a scanner, you'll catch on how they do shit...........bastids
 
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