Buds smell like tea .

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Everytimefoo

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Nouser said:
I got the point about chlorophyll and thank everyone for your answers . Maybe they are a bit affected by early crop as well i harvested at around 5-10% of white pistils on the top buds . I want to try harvest one with 0 white pistils as well .
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Thundercat said:
Harvesting early can defintely impact the final smell.

It can easily prevent the plant from reaching its full potential terpene, flavinoid, and cannabinoid levels in the first place.

But the bigger issue is that if you harvest to early then the buds wont have reached full density. That makes it very easy to dry them too fast. In which case the chlorophyl won't have the proper chance to break down and the smell to disipate.
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I hadnt thought about the airy buds locking in chlorophyl thats a good call. For sure gotta not jump the gun on harvests. Oh the joys of dialing in everything lol!
 
Dboybudz

Dboybudz

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Nouser said:
I got the point about chlorophyll and thank everyone for your answers . Maybe they are a bit affected by early crop as well i harvested at around 5-10% of white pistils on the top buds . I want to try harvest one with 0 white pistils as well .
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Don't look at pistols to determine if ready only trichomes take a close up with camera or a microscope mini one and you want 80% cloudy Milky and the rest clear.
 
KarlE

KarlE

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down here in florida, the majority of dispensary flower comes smelling between tea or hay. demand hurries the processes and getting them quick-cured and on a shelf somewhere is more important than container curing prior to market distribution. but, by the end of a quarter, and opening that container throughout some days, the flower was completely different in smell and taste.


same case when i brewed beer. the longer it cured or bottle conditioned, the more the smell and taste both developed, and changed.
 
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Everytimefoo

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KarlE said:
down here in florida, the majority of dispensary flower comes smelling between tea or hay. demand hurries the processes and getting them quick-cured and on a shelf somewhere is more important than container curing prior to market distribution. but, by the end of a quarter, and opening that container throughout some days, the flower was completely different in smell and taste.


same case when i brewed beer. the longer it cured or bottle conditioned, the more the smell and taste both developed, and changed.
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This is the #1 reason i grow my own. Just no love in it with the set it and forget it.
 
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Everytimefoo

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Dboybudz said:
Don't look at pistols to determine if ready only trichomes take a close up with camera or a microscope mini one and you want 80% cloudy Milky and the rest clear.
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This ^^^ also research the differences in effects based in trichomes. If you harvest when they are milky/clear/very slight amber, youll get more of a cerebral speedy high (i like to take my sativas like this.) More amber is more of a narcotic (couch lock.)
 
tstick

tstick

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The longer you can flower them, the better. There really isn't a substitute for fully ripening the flowers -IF you want the best flavor and smell. If you're in a hurry and harvest too soon, then you'll get underripe or let's say "green" tastes....same goes for most fruits and vegetables, too. Some people like the green "tea"/"hay" flavor. Some people prefer green tomatoes, apples, onions, etc. It's all good, I guess, but my preference is to get everything as ripe and flavor-packed as possible....Then be VERY specific and dry the plants in an environment that can maintain 60 degreesF and 60% relative humidity for at least 14 days....checking them everyday....and THEN jarring them up and carefully burping the jars for days and weeks until the buds are stable at ~60%....and THEN putting the stabilized buds into a Grove bag (my new favorite thing)...heat-seal the Grove bag and then let them sit for several months without touching them.
 
Dboybudz

Dboybudz

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Everytimefoo said:
This ^^^ also research the differences in effects based in trichomes. If you harvest when they are milky/clear/very slight amber, youll get more of a cerebral speedy high (i like to take my sativas like this.) More amber is more of a narcotic (couch lock.)
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Yea another good grower chops his when 50% amber on all his indica. That's sleeping weed. People here get into it about this discussion but if you grow it and know what it feels like and everybody affects different,can't argue.
 
Thundercat

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Dboybudz said:
Don't look at pistols to determine if ready only trichomes take a close up with camera or a microscope mini one and you want 80% cloudy Milky and the rest clear.
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Stigma are a very important sign of when to harvset. Only looking at trichomes is one of the main reasons so many growers harvest waaaay to early. This is how you determine when to harvest based on the plant actually being RIPE.

The signs of ripeness are pretty standard for cannabis plants.

First a few of the pistils begin turning color and start receding. Your plant is just starting to ripen. Depending on the strain you could still have two months to go. We're just starting this journey.

Two to four weeks later you'll notice that most of the pistils(>80%) have now changed color and curled back into the bud. It's frosty, way bigger than it was a few weeks ago(aren't you glad you waited), and smells dank! It's time, right? Not a chance killer. Patience is a virtue.

Over the next 2-3 weeks it doesn't look much different, maybe a little more swelling in the calyxes, and the rest of the pistils change over, but the stems are starting to bend under the weight of the buds. These ladies are putting on weight internally by adding density and now the buds are doing their final ripening.

Now you begin looking at trichomes, on the calyx, not the leaves, and harvest according to your preference. When looking at trichomes it’s essential to look at them from the side. The bulbous heads can magnify the opaque stalk under it. Looking from the side allows you to more accurately see the condition of the resin in the trichome head.

There is still no rush to harvest, the window just opened, and you have several weeks before you MIGHT start having to think about it possibly beginning to get too ripe. It takes WEEKS for plants to mature not days.

It is very easy to harvest a plant to early. It is very hard to harvest a plant to late. I’ve never seen someone accidentally wait too long.
 
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Everytimefoo

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Thundercat said:
Stigma are a very important sign of when to harvset. Only looking at trichomes is one of the main reasons so many growers harvest waaaay to early. This is how you determine when to harvest based on the plant actually being RIPE.

The signs of ripeness are pretty standard for cannabis plants.

First a few of the pistils begin turning color and start receding. Your plant is just starting to ripen. Depending on the strain you could still have two months to go. We're just starting this journey.

Two to four weeks later you'll notice that most of the pistils(>80%) have now changed color and curled back into the bud. It's frosty, way bigger than it was a few weeks ago(aren't you glad you waited), and smells dank! It's time, right? Not a chance killer. Patience is a virtue.

Over the next 2-3 weeks it doesn't look much different, maybe a little more swelling in the calyxes, and the rest of the pistils change over, but the stems are starting to bend under the weight of the buds. These ladies are putting on weight internally by adding density and now the buds are doing their final ripening.

Now you begin looking at trichomes, on the calyx, not the leaves, and harvest according to your preference. When looking at trichomes it’s essential to look at them from the side. The bulbous heads can magnify the opaque stalk under it. Looking from the side allows you to more accurately see the condition of the resin in the trichome head.

There is still no rush to harvest, the window just opened, and you have several weeks before you MIGHT start having to think about it possibly beginning to get too ripe. It takes WEEKS for plants to mature not days.

It is very easy to harvest a plant to early. It is very hard to harvest a plant to late. I’ve never seen someone accidentally wait too long.
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25% amber on an indica is wayyy to much for me and my workout routine, i’m not trying to surf the couch or go to bed im not some oldy.
 
Dboybudz

Dboybudz

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Thundercat said:
Stigma are a very important sign of when to harvset. Only looking at trichomes is one of the main reasons so many growers harvest waaaay to early. This is how you determine when to harvest based on the plant actually being RIPE.

The signs of ripeness are pretty standard for cannabis plants.

First a few of the pistils begin turning color and start receding. Your plant is just starting to ripen. Depending on the strain you could still have two months to go. We're just starting this journey.

Two to four weeks later you'll notice that most of the pistils(>80%) have now changed color and curled back into the bud. It's frosty, way bigger than it was a few weeks ago(aren't you glad you waited), and smells dank! It's time, right? Not a chance killer. Patience is a virtue.

Over the next 2-3 weeks it doesn't look much different, maybe a little more swelling in the calyxes, and the rest of the pistils change over, but the stems are starting to bend under the weight of the buds. These ladies are putting on weight internally by adding density and now the buds are doing their final ripening.

Now you begin looking at trichomes, on the calyx, not the leaves, and harvest according to your preference. When looking at trichomes it’s essential to look at them from the side. The bulbous heads can magnify the opaque stalk under it. Looking from the side allows you to more accurately see the condition of the resin in the trichome head.

There is still no rush to harvest, the window just opened, and you have several weeks before you MIGHT start having to think about it possibly beginning to get too ripe. It takes WEEKS for plants to mature not days.

It is very easy to harvest a plant to early. It is very hard to harvest a plant to late. I’ve never seen someone accidentally wait too long.
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I get it great info just seems to me on affects if you start getting amber trichromes you get not as energetic, everyone different exceptions but majority that's all. I just want to know if or when for best taste if that even affects when to harvest. I know curing and all that stuff makes better,but harvesting to get most out of your strain.
 
Dboybudz

Dboybudz

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Everytimefoo said:
25% amber on an indica is wayyy to much for me and my workout routine, i’m not trying to surf the couch or go to bed im not some oldy.
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That's what I'm saying this guy grows beautiful buds and indicas at 50% amber definitely why all his buddies had panic attacks from his edibles or just made super strong oil or butter.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Everytimefoo said:
25% amber on an indica is wayyy to much for me and my workout routine, i’m not trying to surf the couch or go to bed im not some oldy.
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Where did you see me say anything about 25% amber, or any specific trichome percentages?

I havn't looked at trichomes in years because it's mostly pointless once you learn to read the rest of the plant.

If you don't want sleepy weed quit growing indica-dominant plants.

Dboybudz said:
I get it great info just seems to me on affects if you start getting amber trichromes you get not as energetic, everyone different exceptions but majority that's all. I just want to know if or when for best taste if that even affects when to harvest. I know curing and all that stuff makes better,but harvesting to get most out of your strain.
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The best taste, smells, smoke quality, and yields will come from a HEALTHY fully ripe plant, its that simple.

Yes some things come down to personal preference, but those personal preferences are the exception not the rule. As a rule if you want energizing weed, grow weed that is known for that, often times sativa dominant strains. If you want sleepy weed then grow weed that is good at that, usually indica domnant strains.

Harvesting early gets you LESS HIGH, and has weaker effects. Harvesting when buds are properly ripe gets you more high with greater effects.

You have to let plants go for weeks longer then needed to reach the point of major CBN levels from degradation. It doesn't happen overnight, and a handful of amber trichomes on a fully ripe plant isn't going to suddenly make it couchlock weed when the rest of the plant is barely ripe.
 
Dboybudz

Dboybudz

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Thundercat said:
Where did you see me say anything about 25% amber, or any specific trichome percentages?

I havn't looked at trichomes in years because it's mostly pointless once you learn to read the rest of the plant.



The best taste, smells, smoke quality, and yields will come from a HEALTHY fully ripe plant, its that simple.

Yes some things come down to personal preference, but those personal preferences are the exception not the rule. As a rule if you want energizing weed, grow weed that is known for that, often times sativa dominant strains. If you want sleepy weed then grow weed that is good at that, usually indica domnant strains.

Harvesting early gets you LESS HIGH, and has weaker effects. Harvesting when buds are properly ripe gets you more high with greater effects.

You have to let plants go for weeks longer then needed to reach the point of major CBN levels from degradation. It doesn't happen overnight, and a handful of amber trichomes on a fully ripe plant isn't going to suddenly make it couchlock weed when the rest of the plant is barely ripe.
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Not you I was talking about someone else
 
Dboybudz

Dboybudz

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Thundercat said:
Where did you see me say anything about 25% amber, or any specific trichome percentages?

I havn't looked at trichomes in years because it's mostly pointless once you learn to read the rest of the plant.

If you don't want sleepy weed quit growing indica-dominant plants.



The best taste, smells, smoke quality, and yields will come from a HEALTHY fully ripe plant, its that simple.

Yes some things come down to personal preference, but those personal preferences are the exception not the rule. As a rule if you want energizing weed, grow weed that is known for that, often times sativa dominant strains. If you want sleepy weed then grow weed that is good at that, usually indica domnant strains.

Harvesting early gets you LESS HIGH, and has weaker effects. Harvesting when buds are properly ripe gets you more high with greater effects.

You have to let plants go for weeks longer then needed to reach the point of major CBN levels from degradation. It doesn't happen overnight, and a handful of amber trichomes on a fully ripe plant isn't going to suddenly make it couchlock weed when the rest of the plant is barely ripe.
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I know all that the cbn I didn't I was talking before to other guy about trichomes nothing with you about amber. Were talking about when was ripe and that's all. I agree with everything you said didn't know either bout looking at pistols only what I've been taught still learning.
 
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Everytimefoo

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Thundercat said:
Where did you see me say anything about 25% amber, or any specific trichome percentages?

I havn't looked at trichomes in years because it's mostly pointless once you learn to read the rest of the plant.

If you don't want sleepy weed quit growing indica-dominant plants.



The best taste, smells, smoke quality, and yields will come from a HEALTHY fully ripe plant, its that simple.

Yes some things come down to personal preference, but those personal preferences are the exception not the rule. As a rule if you want energizing weed, grow weed that is known for that, often times sativa dominant strains. If you want sleepy weed then grow weed that is good at that, usually indica domnant strains.

Harvesting early gets you LESS HIGH, and has weaker effects. Harvesting when buds are properly ripe gets you more high with greater effects.

You have to let plants go for weeks longer then needed to reach the point of major CBN levels from degradation. It doesn't happen overnight, and a handful of amber trichomes on a fully ripe plant isn't going to suddenly make it couchlock weed when the rest of the plant is barely ripe.
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But i like the indica frost and smell haha so i cant do that. Long as it has sativa in it, it wont make me too sleepy, and ill still harvest it at 25% amber cause thats how i like it. ;)
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Everytimefoo said:
But i like the indica frost and smell haha so i cant do that. Long as it has sativa in it, it wont make me too sleepy, and ill still harvest it at 25% amber cause thats how i like it. ;)
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I love them all, but definitely lean towards sativas any chance I get really. When I was running my SOG I really preferred a hybrid to get the nice tall spear-shaped sativa structure, but having it covered with nice density frost covered nugs.
 
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