Bubbleponics now DWC pulled the tubes...

LEDZEP

LEDZEP

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Hey yall just wanted to share my 1st ever grow with the DWC/Bubble heads. I started the seeds in the system and now that I have roots I pulled the plumbing, its been about 2 weeks since I placed them in the system.

Who else has experience with this? Is it too early to pull the "feeders"?

Check out my grow journal
 
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Illegal Smile

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IMO, it's never too early and best not to use them to begin with. Sounds like you aredoing fine!
 
LionInZion

LionInZion

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Why is it the haters are always quick to answer with their own biased opinions?
LEDZEP, my opinion is to remove the tubes when you are sure the plant is sufficiently getting the water it needs through the roots.
I have tried it both ways, in my experience, that the tubes do help when they are young.

Some agree, some don't... WE GET IT! Enough with the unneeded comments already!
 
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Illegal Smile

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OK, tell us why you think the tubes improve anything. Then I'll tell you why I think they don't. And we can let anyone reading decide for themselves. Is that ok, or would you prefer to have only "your" opinion expressed?
 
LionInZion

LionInZion

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Illegal Smile said:
OK, tell us why you think the tubes improve anything. Then I'll tell you why I think they don't. And we can let anyone reading decide for themselves. Is that ok, or would you prefer to have only "your" opinion expressed?
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First of all, I do not wish to hyjack the OP's thread. Secondly, there has been more than enough debate on this issue. You take every opportunity to inject your opinion into almost every post regarding bubbleponics without being asked. Just to be clear, there's no hard feelings, and I enjoy reading your other post. I just feel, and I think I speak for others, that these type of comments are unwarranted, and unneeded.
I respect your opinion on the matter, please respect mine.
 
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Immortal One

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I agree, the tubes are useless. I quickly found out that you can just raise the water level in your res to your rockwool/roots and you are doing the same thing, only less trouble.
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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LEDZEP said:
Hey yall just wanted to share my 1st ever grow with the DWC/Bubble heads. I started the seeds in the system and now that I have roots I pulled the plumbing, its been about 2 weeks since I placed them in the system.

Who else has experience with this? Is it too early to pull the "feeders"?

Check out my grow journal
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When the roots are well into the water, I remove just the feeder tubes and the distribution hub. I leave the pump running until I harvest the plants. if heat is a problem, you might want to remove it as it does increase water temps slightly. I do have to remove the pump and rince out the filter. I do that when I drain and replinish the res. so it's no big deal. The pump does great job circulation the nute solution and really moves the top of the water as well. This is my 4th bubble grow and this works for me best.:peace:
 
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LionInZion said:
First of all, I do not wish to hyjack the OP's thread.
It's not hijacking it's perfectly on topic.

Secondly, there has been more than enough debate on this issue.
No, there hasn't been nearly enough.

You take every opportunity to inject your opinion into almost every post regarding bubbleponics without being asked.
Every thread is open to everyone, even you.

Just to be clear, there's no hard feelings, and I enjoy reading your other post. I just feel, and I think I speak for others, that these type of comments are unwarranted, and unneeded.
You speak for others? Do the voices tell you this? :roll:

I respect your opinion on the matter, please respect mine.
Well, if "the matter" is the use of feeder tubes then note that I have invited you to a comparison and debate of opinions and you seem to have declined.
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PS You could always use the ignore function
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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i've not even started my dwc, but have tried the pump, and without plants i can appreciate that it would work just fine with jsut bubbles. add to that the increased presssure and your air is gonna quickly become verrrrrrrrrry humid :)

not saying feeder tubes don't work, jsut as most "opponents" will say, it's a needless hassle in a ssytem designed to be simple and fairly hassle free
 
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woof

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Everybody knows bubbles have been used by dwc growers a long time. And if anyone wanted it there has always been a variety of drip systems using feeder tubes from above and gravity fed. The only reason to come up with something like a pump in the reservoir pumping water up for a week or so was to create something that "seemed" new as a marketing gimmick. Also, there are lots of arguments about lots of methods vs other methods, but I don't think I have ever heard anyone be so brazen as to suggest that the other side "respect" opinions by remaining silent. LOL
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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There are lots of ways to grow. I use the water pump & irrigation hub. Initially I dont have to water/feed my seedlings until they get a good root system in the reservoir. Thge pump & hub does that. For me, I've found leaving the pump in and running throughout the entire grow, keeps my plants healther than when I dont. I clean it out when I change the res and it does help filter junque out of the water....but, ymmv.
 
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Illegal Smile

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For the record, I don't have to water mine either - the bubbles do that. And they do it very consistently and reliably. I don't have to worry about adjusting the flow, unlike with tubes it's easy with bubbles. I don't have to worry about clogged tubes or one tube putting out twice as much as another. And I don't have to worry about a pump creating heat. As for the water being moved, nothing moves it as well as a lot of good bubble action!

But I think everyone should try alternate approaches in this and in other aspects of growing. Maybe the new whizz-bang, why didn't anyone think of this before technology will work for you! "Holy Placebo Batman, these feeder tubes are awesome!"
 
HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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Illegal Smile said:
For the record, I don't have to water mine either - the bubbles do that. And they do it very consistently and reliably. I don't have to worry about adjusting the flow, unlike with tubes it's easy with bubbles. I don't have to worry about clogged tubes or one tube putting out twice as much as another. And I don't have to worry about a pump creating heat. As for the water being moved, nothing moves it as well as a lot of good bubble action!

But I think everyone should try alternate approaches in this and in other aspects of growing. Maybe the new whizz-bang, why didn't anyone think of this before technology will work for you! "Holy Placebo Batman, these feeder tubes are awesome!"
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You using a back up res? What happens when the water level gets to low to spritz the roots of your seedling? I know they drink little water early on, but still. Sometimes, I dont look at my plants daily so I wonder if this could be a problem?
 
hardlife

hardlife

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Nice setup you have goin,I currently have a drip system but Been looking to do an aeroponics system like the one you have, just to experiment with,lookin at your setup has given me inspiration.I'm a big procrastinator though(gives me time to Read and Learn)..lol.

Good Luck with your Girls:leaf:
 
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Illegal Smile

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HomeGrownHairy said:
You using a back up res? What happens when the water level gets to low to spritz the roots of your seedling? I know they drink little water early on, but still. Sometimes, I dont look at my plants daily so I wonder if this could be a problem?
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It could be a problem and it could be a reason for a grower to opt for a drip system. While it's true the dwc grower can manipulate the res to any of the conditions present in any of the other systems (or so they claim) it does require attention. The system that relies on bubbles heavily isn't very automated, it is the simplicity approach.

A backup res would be convenient but I have the advantage of being home most of the time. I set my res with sprouts so that the rapid rooter stays about as wet as you'd want it. Even a half inch drop in water level from there wouldn't make it dry. I don't think that kind of water level drop could happen (in a decent sized res) in less than maybe 8 hrs? I'm never away anywhere near that long (during a grow). If you were I'd go with the second res.
 
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