Bubbleponics NooB!

Yeah moosey I feel the same way. Only problem is I have no source until I get my own grow going. The other 2 seeds havent popped yet but the other 3 are in water for 24 hrs so hope so. Fucking people we have been dealing with are such ass clowns. They say we can buy through them and its no problem but then when we call we get the fuckin story of how we can only get 1/4 at a time and they need weeks and weeks notice and then they fucking judge about how much we smoke. is 1/4 in 2 weeks that much? Apparently getting a direct source is impossible unless you knew the fucker since you were 12 also and no one over that age can cultivate (pun) a relationship. Sick of this bullshit legal system in this country. OK im done ranting. Good luck on your new seeds Moose, wih me luck in getting 1/8 if we beg hard enough and pray the planets are all in alignment and people arent too flaky to actually do us a favor when they say they will. I fuckin hate people. I really do.

Just got back from target and upgraded my tub to a 10 gallon short style rubbermaid. It is thicker walled than the other one with a bigger lid. I am going to cut this one for 4 plants I think and give them alot of space. Here's a question though. If I was using 3" net pots still what is the best way to cut those holes in the tote lid? I have a cordless drill and a dremel rotary tool but not sure the easiest and cleanest way to make the holes. The 2 stretchy plants are still doing fine, no gender yet though. 2 seeds popped, one has peeked and the other 3 are on their way. Should work out fine and in 3 weeks when I move they should be strong enough to take the quick relocation. OK get back to me ASAp on the new tote lid I want it done by tomorrow, thanks all

I drew a circle around the cup, with a broad magic marker, and then used a drexel spinning wheel to cut it out, leaving the black marker still visable. Be sure to Make the hole smaller than the cirle.

Rose, thats cool, I have the dremmel, just need to get a cutting disc then I think. I will work on that tomorrow. The plants will have a goodly amount of space to bush out now instead of getting in each others way. I fig I will have one mother plant going at the time under a CFL in another closet and then be able to cut and flower 4 clones when needed. Thanks again for the quick reply.

Whoa, holy hell, this may be premature but the one largest plant of the 2 that were stretchy looks to be female. I am checking the topmost node and where the branches meet looks to be small whitish hairs emerging. Nothing like the balls I'm oh so used to seeing. I got 2 good strong seed pops out of the feminized stuff and they look great too so now I have another problem, how to keep flowering the one female, possibly revegging it and still making the new ones grow without stretching, I need a CFL fixture I think with a 100 watt min bulb for the little ones. I Have a 42 watt on them now at like 4 inches away so the roots should get nice and burly. Im really jazzed though, I am home until Sun night so I can keep an eye on them, will keep them on flower and see what develops. My seeds are a little dissappointing though. 2 have been in paper towels for 3 days now and havent popped, 2 have popped well and one I let dry the fuck out in the rockwool by mistake, oops. But not a bad average if I can get them growing again. Will update later, I know I said I was done with the log but fuck it, this is too good to not share, pics later, comments welcome

Wow, I am pretty impressed. I see bud points now in several areas with double white pistils popping out. She is LEGGY! I am goin to get something out of it though. I decided to continue flowering and the 2 seedlings I have going will be under a dome with a CFL on them for the first 2 weeks. I HAVE to get my 2nd bubbler system put together today so they have a home when roots start needing real substance. I am thinking of getting another short/wide tote like the rubbermaid and having 3 plants per tub and have alot of bush room. wont be hard to make at all. Also will enable me to have 3 flowering and then 3 vegging in sep areas. So, see the pic, yes, I know she is stretched, see above posts for why. Will be changing her nutes today also, the other plant turned out to be male so I trashed him too. so one flowering female and 2 feminized diesel on the way, will update later in to next week.

Note: I also included a pic of the brandy new hydro setup i made from scratch. Pretty proud of it, this way the mature fems can have their space...prob cost me a grand total of 28 bucks to make so i think im going to have 2 of them cycling between veg n flowering. Cant wait to set my new place up with everything

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Wish me luck, I'm done with this thread, thanks for all the support and interest.

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I am glad you didnt call it quits!

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Fucking people we have been dealing with are such ass clowns. They say we can buy through them and its no problem but then when we call we get the fuckin story of how we can only get 1/4 at a time and they need weeks and weeks notice and then they fucking judge about how much we smoke. is 1/4 in 2 weeks that much? Apparently getting a direct source is impossible unless you knew the fucker since you were 12 also and no one over that age can cultivate (pun) a relationship. Sick of this bullshit legal system in this country.

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That Sucks! What general area do you live? City or State?

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Note: I also included a pic of the brandy new hydro setup i made from scratch. Pretty proud of it, this way the mature fems can have their space...prob cost me a grand total of 28 bucks to make so i think im going to have 2 of them cycling between veg n flowering. Cant wait to set my new place up with everything

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You did an awsome job on that setup Jizz! OK, Here is where it gets interesting! You need to build 1 more, so you have 2 in the flower room under the 250w HPS. I measured my lid for the 18 gal, and it was 16" x 22", so yours should be slightly smaller. If you put them side by side, you would be using an area of about 22" x 32". Which would be just under 5 ft sq, so you would have just over 50 watts per ft sq. And by setting up a separate Mother/clone area with CFL's or even the 40 watt shop lights. You could have a 4 week Perpetual grow Set-Up, and Harvest 3 plants every 4 weeks! That would be 3 in veg for 30 days, 3 in 1st month of flower, 3 in 2nd month of flower. Take your clones from the veg plants just before putting into flower, as you harvest 3 plants. And if you make 2 more tubs, all the same size, it would be easy to move just the lids from veg to flower.

I recently built a Portable 2'x2'x4' Veg Box, which will go into my Flower Room when I finish building it in the Basement. I used two 4 ft - double bulb shop lights with 2 6500k Grow Lux bulbs, and 2 cheap 3100K bulbs. Here is a pic of my new Cabinet. BTW, the 3 on the left have been confirmed Females, the one on the right is the Male we previously talked about. I have been experimenting, and torturing him. I did LST and loved how it increased the Bud Sites! I may try topping it next to see how that effects it. I want to have the tecniques down before I perform them on the girls!



I plan on doing a similar Perpetual Grow, thinkin maybe even a 2 week/2 plant perpetual for starters, and when I have some stock curing, I would cut that back to a 4 plant/4 week Perpetual. Will probably be alot less work. I am a new Michigan Medical Marijuana Patient, and we are limited to 12 plants.

Well, Good Luck! I'm throwing some more Love your way (+1 rep)!

Moosey, thats pretty amazing that you just wrote out the exact plan I had in mind getting more totes and having 3 plants veg and 3 flowering for a perp harvest. Glad I didnt quit too now, looks great although stretched but it will produce obviously...top cola coming in well and strong bud points throughout. The 2 seedlings are under a dome reflector w a 42 watt CFL but I am getting a 2nd dome and 2 55 watt CFL's so they have enough light spread for my veg area...plus Im getting another, smaller tote lid for seeds/clones with holes closer together to keep them straight and bushy. The CFL's seem to be good for gentle but efficient lighting with no temp worries so I like that. Then the 250 HPS for the flowering. I also ordered an electronic PH meter which should be here this weekend. Can't wait, no more drops!

My main objective is to have 3 cuttings going w 3 plants in mid veg and 3 flowering. Going from CFL for 2 weeks to 250 MH for 2 then 250 HPS for the flowering phase...should keep them shorter but not stress them at the early stages...i noticed how awesome root dev. is when you leave them under vented plastic under CFL for 4-5 days, was no question they were ready!

Here's an idea tell me if you're with me. I am thinking of getting a shitload of lowryder 2 seeds and having 2 totes with 6-7 holes in each under the 250 side by side. figure 3/4 oz per plant every 2 months from what I have been reading on them. The hybrid/auto dwarf strains are going to be HUGE in the next year or so I think. Attitude seeds has several varieties of improving quality...but we'll have to see what they come out with. Sucks you cannot clone them though. Speaking of Attitude I emailed them even though they say not to about the 3 out of 5 germ on fem seeds. I'm not impressed, didnt pay alot but still, I think im going to try someone else next time...dopeseeds.com seems to have a great selection. Speaking of seeds, I dropped 2 of the power skunk in a shot glass yesterday and they are soaking inpaper towels right now, fig y the hell not they were free...and the seedlings will be 2 weeks ahead of them. Will update more next week or over weekend if anything dev. Thanks for keeping in touch

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plus Im getting another, smaller tote lid for seeds/clones with holes closer together to keep them straight and bushy. The CFL's seem to be good for gentle but efficient lighting with no temp worries so I like that. Then the 250 HPS for the flowering.

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I did the same thing with a 6 Liter Shoebox size. Made it a 12 site with 2 inch holes. Buy 2 so you can use one as a dome.

I also ordered an electronic PH meter which should be here this weekend. Can't wait, no more drops!

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Thats next on my list too, even though I went Soil. I have built up enough confidence to try my Ebb/Flow again, or convert it to Top Feed.

My main objective is to have 3 cuttings going w 3 plants in mid veg and 3 flowering. Going from CFL for 2 weeks to 250 MH for 2 then 250 HPS for the flowering phase...should keep them shorter but not stress them at the early stages...i noticed how awesome root dev. is when you leave them under vented plastic under CFL for 4-5 days, was no question they were ready!

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The cuttings should root in 7 to 14 days with the Humidity Dome and CFL's. Then 2 weeks under the MH. That should be 1st station. That would be 3 in clone/veg for 30 days, 3 in 1st month of flower, 3 in 2nd month of flower. Since flowering is generaly 8 weeks.

Here's an idea tell me if you're with me. I am thinking of getting a shitload of lowryder 2 seeds and having 2 totes with 6-7 holes in each under the 250 side by side. figure 3/4 oz per plant every 2 months from what I have been reading on them.

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I think putting 12 -14 plants under a 250 HPS is too many personally. You could totally fill the size of the tote lid with 2-3 plants each. And I Highly recommend that you look into LST. If you look at the pic of my Veg Box, the plant on the far right is only 1 week older than the other 3. I started LST on day 25, so 2 weeks now, and Check out how the undergrowth just took over and became Bud Sites. Atleast the other 3 are Female, and I just started LST'ing them.

Speaking of Attitude I emailed them even though they say not to about the 3 out of 5 germ on fem seeds. I'm not impressed, didnt pay alot but still, I think im going to try someone else next time...dopeseeds.com seems to have a great selection.

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http://www.nirvana-shop.com/ Alot of people I know use Nirvana-shop, The seem to be Very Reliable and Discreet. I screwed up and mixed my Free Leonard Seeds with some bag seeds, so it about a 50/50 chance when I try, but I found a source for some MK Ultra clones, should have them next week. Look them up, they are supposed to be Awsome!

Keep Rockin'

I just wanted to show you how you could fill your space just by Bending them over once....... Mild LST? I set 2 of my 35 day old Veggin' Females on the 18 Gal Tote Lid. Can you see it under there? I paperclipped them to the side of my bucket on day 30. But there are alot of ways you could accomplish tying them down with your tote lid.



I am so close to finishing off my new Grow Room, and just dying to throw them into 12/12! Should be only a couple more days if all goes smoothly

Moose, Yeah those techniques really do seem to make a difference w bud points. I am pretty certain when the 1 big plant finishes and I can determine sex on these 2 seedling Power Skunk and the 2 Fem Diesel show as well then I will order the Lowryder 2 seeds. Growing a tub just for seeds and then having the rest started in veg to move over nd get u sum sticky seems way easier than 2 vegging and flowering areas. I got the idea how' I;m setting it up here, will have to wait til we move this weekend. will get good pics too. the 2 new fem seeds are the diesel strain and look way healthy. The one on the left is gonnna be a real shrub, I can tell. The other seems leggy and pale. She may make it through, at lease I know who mom will be if I go that route. Will keep informed, ttys

Well the babies look a little haggard. This was my total mistake. I have had them on 24 hour light since seed pop so I think they are stressed a little. Color is good but yellowing in the center of the left one. Droopy and sad but stems are strong. I got the Ph to about 6 and gave them 8 hours of dark. The roots arent plowing through as well as I thought they'd be by now. Also raised the light on them to make sure they arent getting blasted.

It has been 8 hours of dark and the lights have been on about 2 hrs, they look alot better. I think they needed a refresher, did some research and found out 24/7 lighting is not healthy for plants...who'da thunk it?!

On the other side the mom is exceptionally huge. I dont know what to do with it! She keeps growing and the buds are getting larger but not crazy large. She is about 2 3/4 ft. tall now, stretchy as hell but holding her own. Keeping her fed and trying to raise the lights daily to keep the top cooler. Not much else to do but wait. Totally getting Lowryder hybrids as soon as I move, maybe even before then...this 3 months/3 ft tall plant shit is for the birds!

MOVE IS DONE! Thank the fuck christ. However, the mom got beat up a little, she is WAY too big and top heavy for the 3" net cup she currently has. I am just winging it with her now until it finishes IF EVER! Totally different story with the 2 fem seedlings of Diesel. They LOVE the CFL light I put over them. 65 watt and they are branchy and stout with thickening stems. I might be trading in my HID for CFL! No I'm kidding, I am going to keep using the CFL for the first few weeks and then switch to HID for faster growth and better flowering. Also you will notice those funky white caps over the net cups. Paper bowls with wax coating cut to fit...keeps the light out of the res which seems to help w development.
The new closet is kinda like another apartment and there is a window as you can see. Pretty perfect once I get it done. The single seedling up front in the pic wont make it but I dont care, was free power skunk seed w last order.

20 mixed auto flowering dwarfs on the way, CAN'T WAIT! 2 months and done w 14" plants. Gonna be so much better I hope. Then I will be growing for my own seeds as well and won't have to order anymore. Comments or questions always welcome. Any ideas on Mom? Can I harvest early and be done with her or wait a few more weeks? I know the buds are hard to see but there's white hairs and not much body to them yet...looks like popcorn on the way

Update: Well I hacked mom down, the bitch grew straight into the hood of my 250 with 2 flowering weeks to go and I was so disgusted I just ended it. The branches are mostly trimmed and drying off site. Should be pretty dissappointing but on the horizon are 4 new seeds soaking of the auto flowering mix and I have 2 diesel seedlings about 3 weeks old under the MH looking ok except for a few bottom leaves curling way down...kind of like a rolled inverted joint...any ideas? ... just like 2 on each plant with the rest looking fine...weird really.


Here's a question id LOVE to get some answers on...do I keep a mom plant of diesel and clone or do I grow the auto dwarfs for seed and just go 8 weeks from seed to harvest? My principal concern is stealth and quick turnaround so I think im going to stick with the dwarfs and just cross pollinate them for seeds and make my life easier...COMMENTS?

ATTENTION! Here are pics of my 4 week old (approx) Diesel Feminized babies. They seem to be doing quite well except fr those very few leaves not being all flat and happy looking. Is this normal? Water has plenty of O2 in the bubbler and the Ph is standing at 5.8-6. Nuting regularly (they started to pale slightly 2 days ago). they have aout 7 nodes each which are hard to see from all the leaf growth! They LOVED the CFL bulbs for the first few weeks. I'm really happy w this strain so far.

4 auto dwarfs in paper towels, they are coming up next and I cant wait. I think I'm going to keep one of these as a mom and flower the other one with the dwarves. Hope they both come up female as they are supposed to! coments encouraged at this point, getting lonely over here!

Hang in there Jizz, you're getting it!

Thanks Roseman, good to see you're still following. Texaslonghorn hasn't been around much either. I got 100% germination on my 4 Auto Dwarf mix and the 2 Diesels still look great. Having panic attacks praying they are female and the move didnt stress them into Males. So not im waiting for the little ones to peek above the rockwool and they go into the newly designed Vegging area under a 65 and 42 watt cfl duo. Will have pics of both in a few days, thanks for stopping by!

Here are some pix from a few mins ago. PH is at 6.0 and the temps are in the low 70's. Water level is below net cups. Topping off with fresh grow nutes every other day or so for this week. Im getting some funky leaf curls now. Seems like they are not getting enough light to me....any thoughts? I try to turn them a quarter turn every day but maybe the light is too far off at 15 inches? Kinda weird, the color and stems are strong and I just got a larger fan on them for air movement. Just me worrying a little. the other 4 seedling auto flowering dwarfs are peeking way out and developing under a CFL. Pics to follow but i really could use an opinion on the larger plants and what may be def.

So day 2 of my curiosity with the plants. They just look like they have a few bad leaves IMO. The rest of the plant seems to be in good shape. Good color, growth rate is fine, just those leaves curling down like that puzzles me. PH is at 6. roots look fine, brownish from nutes. Plenty of light and breeze, hmm. Any comments still wlecome. No sign of sex yet, probably end of week.

Good news! Pic of my 2 day old babies looking strong. Auto Flowering Hybrids in a mix. They popped aggressively and the leaves that showed were so so tiny it was amazing, i didnt think they would live. They are buffing up now in a dark closet for a few hours then back under CFL. So precious...but im stoned so it's a big deal to me right now! Wil get their new home setup when done cleaning the older veg tub.

Will post more pics of the larger ones later. Going to tweak things a little until Im bored with it or until they look better. I'm debating whether to just change out the nute solution and flush with 1/2 strength. Any ideas would help.

There is absolutley nothing wrong with those two plants in the pic in the SH Bubbleponics tank. They look beautiful to me. As plants grow, a fan leaf ocassionally dies.
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