Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

smokingrubber said:

I think before Lights On would be better because they're awake and waiting for the lights, vs right after Lights out when they're heads already on the pillow and they're about to slip off to amsterdam (or wherever plants dream about being).

Set your alarm stoner! You can go right back to bed LOL.

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Lol, not a stoner at all - haven't smoked in about a month (girl's getting drug tested tomorrow and I'm being supportive, although after the first couple of weeks I stopped longing for weed - might see how long I can go, as I'll hopefully be getting drug tested at some point if I ever decide to actually look for a new job).

My girl wakes up at 7:00am every day and leaves the house at about 8:00am - I'll just have her make sure to get me up (this is all for you, Integra).

And Wonder, I'm not sure why I think that either, but I'm hesitant to take pics after the lights go out.

Thanks for the input, guys.

blueybong said:

Man you've done a nice job on the DIY Ebb & Grow!

Question: the wall mount fan, is it easy to adjust the height?

How does it attach to the wall?

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Which fan are you talking about? One of the inlines, or the oscillating fan in the flower tent?

Bob Smith said:

Which fan are you talking about? One of the inlines, or the oscillating fan in the flower tent?

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The 16" oscillating fan with the wall mount. But I've been reading through your journal and it appears that you're not using it.

I'm on page 5, so if you could let me know what type of fan you're using to blow over the plants I'd be grateful!

blueybong said:

The 16" oscillating fan with the wall mount. But I've been reading through your journal and it appears that you're not using it.

I'm on page 5, so if you could let me know what type of fan you're using to blow over the plants I'd be grateful!

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Not a problem my man - realize it's a lengthy and verbose journal (as an aside, setting posts per page at 40 helps).

Anyways, here's the fan I'm using:



And if you're strapped for time and just trying to check out my setup, go to youtube and do a search for "SOGBobSmith" - seven one minute videos will pop up (try to watch them in order).

It's a nice executive summary of my setup, although the journal walks you through my thinking, trials, and tribulations on the way.

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Notes from videos:

LMAO #1 ~ Bucket wall of shame
LMAO #2 ~ when you pointed out the hole that you cut into the veg room for no good reason.
Lowes & Home Depot sell 4" & 6" clamps to hold the duct onto your exhaust fan.

Is that a Can-33?

Back to your oscillating fan, is it a 6" or 16"? It looks like a 6", but thought I'd ask.

Man you've really thought through the whole process. Hope you do a one minute vid of your E&G once up & running.

Cheers!

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You should see the wall of shame now, it's about ten buckets larger.......and yeah, Twils put me on to those worm drive clamps for holding the ducting, they work great.

And the filter is a Phresh filter, 6" x 24" (rated for 550 CFM).

And the oscillating fan is a 12", seems to work great.

And thanks for the compliments, appreciate it.

EDIT: definitely gonna do a video of my veg tent once it's up and running, just need to make a couple more modifications.

Well, cant wait to see those pics buddy.

I don't really see how taking pics within minutes of the lights going out is going to cause issues, but I agree...err on the side of caution and snap them before lights pop on.

Haven't smoked in a month? Kudos man, backing your girl like that.

statik said:

Well, cant wait to see those pics buddy.

I don't really see how taking pics within minutes of the lights going out is going to cause issues, but I agree...err on the side of caution and snap them before lights pop on.

Haven't smoked in a month? Kudos man, backing your girl like that.

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Not a big deal, honestly - even when I do smoke, it's only once a day at about 9:00pm before I veg out in front of the TV.

Took 27 clones so far tonight off of three plants - Bubblelicious 1, 2, and NYPD 1.

6 large clones from each that went in the E&F tray up top (in the 3.5" pots), and 3 from each that went in rapid rooters in the humidome in the bottom tray.

Going to do another 54 big clones up top tomorrow and about 30 more down below; just making sure everything's kosher overnight before I take the rest of the clones (and I'm kinda lazy).

Also said fuck the light yo-yos - installed it and didn't like it, so if I need to adjust it, I'll just use some hooks and a chain.

Bob Smith said:

Not a big deal, honestly - even when I do smoke, it's only once a day at about 9:00pm before I veg out in front of the TV.

Took 27 clones so far tonight off of three plants - Bubblelicious 1, 2, and NYPD 1.

6 large clones from each that went in the E&F tray up top (in the 3.5" pots), and 3 from each that went in rapid rooters in the humidome in the bottom tray.

Going to do another 54 big clones up top tomorrow and about 30 more down below; just making sure everything's kosher overnight before I take the rest of the clones (and I'm kinda lazy).

Also said fuck the light yo-yos - installed it and didn't like it, so if I need to adjust it, I'll just use some hooks and a chain.

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Word, I used Yo Yo's for my small (2ft) dual bulb fluoro's..they were ok for that. When it comes down to bigger lights though... Yo Yo's...

Chain and hooks all the way

Well, ran out to the garage and checked on them, and all's well so far.............also grabbed the camera, so here's some pics....



Here's some flower tent pics from this evening.............this stretch better fugging be over, they're all way too tall at this point. Also, I've been so lackluster about rotating the plants that the ones under the light are much, much stronger and the ones on the perimeter are weak and stretchy - need to figure out a good system to make sure they're rotated regularly, but am going to rearrange tomorrow morning after I take clones and trim them.



Burned my hand with some more H2O2, that shit is powerful.



Some before and after shots of the trimmed plants.



And here's some pics of the veg tent - there's 18 in the E&F tray up top and 9 in the humidome down below.

I also put the clone from my best super skunk that was in the flowering tent into the veg tent to turn into a mama, as it was too small and getting suffocated in the flowering tent.

Bob Smith said:

EDIT: Integra, still getting up too late to get those pics, but I guess I could do it right after the lights go out - assuming this wouldn't fuck around with the plants at all? For some reason I have it in my head that before lights on would be fine, but after lights off might be bad...........

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Here's the layout for how I take my pics. I go into my room about 5-10min before lights out. I clean uup if needed and take a second look for anything I might not want in the pics, and begin taking several whole room and close-up bud shots with the lights out. Then, usually during the middle of taking a pic, the lights co out. I start over taking fullroom and bud close-ups with the lights out and then close everything up when im done, usually around 5-10min after the lights go out. Trust me when I say this does nothing bad to your buds. I have done it since the begeninng of my growing.

That H202 burns something fierce don't it?

Plants are looking good.

A couple of things before I start with the pics and new ideas - still need to plug in my ozone generator, been dragging my feet on that.

Also, generator is getting delivered today, so that should be interesting.

And that's about it for the good news, now time for the sad reality of it all:

I waited too long to flower, and not rotating the plants for the first couple of weeks is going to be disastrous for my yield (oh well, I don't even smoke anymore, so not too killer).

Basically, the 3' of space from light to the start of the plants is too small for what I'm trying to do, but I don't think I could make my tray any lower for next run because of fitting the reservoir and dehumidifier in there, so what I'm planning to do is as follows (putting this in bold for those that skim):

I'm going to do 144 plants in my 4x4 tray for next run, and flower them all at about 4-6".

Yeah, I know that's a big change from before when I was worried about plant counts, but I'm not so worried anymore, and I frankly find it easier to take care of lots of small plants then fewer big plants.

So, while that ballsy assertion sinks in with you guys, here are the pics:

Integra, the following are for you:



Pics of the tent before lights come on.



Pics of some trimmed plants outside of the tent.

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Here's the 36 clones in the E&F tray up top - 6 each of BL1, BL2, NYPD1, and NPYD2, along with 12 of the Indica Mama clones.

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Same ratio down below, but only three Indica clones.



Some lights on pics.



More pics showing the new configuration - tallest plants on the outside, shortest on the inside - got my fingers crossed this helps me out a little bit, would like to salvage a half pound outta this grow if possible (realized after I trimmed them today that SCROG would've been my best bet to salvage what I could, but oh well) - BTW, staked all the colas, anywhere from 2-4 stakes per plant.



Shots of the trimmed parts of the plants, and also the new location for the Sentinel sensor - was being overgrown by the plants, so had to move it over.

Next steps:

Get this generator delivered and figure out an efficient delivery system for it, still thinking my box idea.

Order another 100 3.5" square pots for my next run.

Get these clones rooted ASAP to take more and more, as I'm obviously gonna need a lot.

Find 2x2 trays to make rotating the 144 plants easier.

Plug in my ozone generator.

And that's all I can think of for now.........as always, comments/questions/ideas are welcome and encouraged.

EDIT: Thanks Zeus, appreciate you stopping by - would also love your thoughts on the 9/sf idea if you wouldn't mind........

Bob, I am in awe my good man. Being able to recreate natural conditions to that specific precision and maintaining the perfect health of 140 some odd plants is nothing short of amazing. As you were putting it all together I was honestly really really curious to see how it would go, but you have kept me surprised and impressed the whole time. I hope those 144 girls at 4-6" high bust a SOG of 2lb for you to chill on. Best of luck with the rest brother. I have harvested about 8g of my girls and I must tell you this bagseed is impressive. The bud smells like green, smells like...natural plants, nothing special, but the smoke tastes like lemon and smells like lemon. It gives a monster head inflation after just one hit.

+rep, keep it up brother.

Fuck, evidently I rep you too much, sorry it won't let me. I guess you're just too good eh? haha


P.S. took my 3 hour 15 chapter cumulative finance final yesterday. Good lord. haha. that is all I have to say about that.


One more final and it's 2 month break time

tmsculli said:

Fuck, evidently I rep you too much, sorry it won't let me. I guess you're just too good eh? haha


P.S. took my 3 hour 15 chapter cumulative finance final yesterday. Good lord. haha. that is all I have to say about that.


One more final and it's 2 month break time

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Congrats man - always nice to be (almost) done finals and then just chill over the break.

Also, thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate it; also glad that bag seed worked out for you

P.S. - don't sweat the reps; I don't do it for the reps, I do it for the love

Stoked for the 144 plants. I heard something about putting a high number like that under a 400w. SOunds sick....... COunt me in...... I got Super Skunk on the way as a freebie from the attitude

will be interesting to see. Thanks for the pics. girls are looking nice and healthy. waiting patiently just like you to see some buds form. With your new idea, I'm sure you will have succes, but remember, it will probly be much more work to maintain. It will be a lot of work to maintain mothers capable of giving you that mass of clones, tel alone all of the time and effort cutting all of those little bastards and getting them rooted. Have you flowered 4-6" clones before. they grow a lot more than you might think. A 4"clone can easily grow to 3ft by the time the stretch is over. I know I sound like a broken record, but a respectable number of medium sized plants in a scrog still seems like it could do wonders for you. But I'm here to support and help if I can no mater which way you go. Waiting is awe to see 150 baby girls kickin in your tray. Make sure you post how that cos adventure goes, so far it sounds lilke the required tools for you will be a face shiels and some gloves. If I dont hear fro you in the next few days, I'll assume your at the er trying to get your arm reattched. JK, much love and good luck.