DUDE!
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bob i have that same pump but in a clone bucket 3 gallon bucket. i leave it on 24/7 for 2 weeks to 3 weeks. no problems in that small amount of water.
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Appreciate the input; so, no temp problems with the pump in that small amount of water, eh?
That's promising.
Gonna have a better update later, need to go handle some bidness right now.
Twils
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Looking good Bob! Nice grow you have there! For your inline fan problem with the duct tape not holding, I'd get a couple 6" worm drive clamps and use them on the flanges then duct tape over that, I've found this to work really well for me. Might I also suggest to gain a little more space in there and more efficiency on your fans, by shortening all the duct runs as much as possible and eliminating 90degree bends in the ducting as much as possible.
Here's how air flow is reduced by bends in the ducting:
Straight with no bend is the most efficient.
A 30Degree curve cuts up to 20% of air transmission
A 45Degree curve cuts up to 40% of air transmission
A 90Degree curve cuts up to 60% of air transmission
Hope this helps!
Burn on!
Here's how air flow is reduced by bends in the ducting:
Straight with no bend is the most efficient.
A 30Degree curve cuts up to 20% of air transmission
A 45Degree curve cuts up to 40% of air transmission
A 90Degree curve cuts up to 60% of air transmission
Hope this helps!
Burn on!
Thanks Twil, I'll look into those worm drive clamps at Home Depot tomorrow.
As far as the inline fans, I try to run them as straight as possible, but it can get kinda tough in a grow tent - putting together my bigger tent right now, will post pics tomorrow when I'm not so tired.
As far as the inline fans, I try to run them as straight as possible, but it can get kinda tough in a grow tent - putting together my bigger tent right now, will post pics tomorrow when I'm not so tired.
So, as promised, pics.......
Really didn't feel like doing this - put together the 2x4 by myself and that wasn't easy, wasn't very happy thinking about doing the 4x4 solo.
Thank God I had Illadelph Halflife bumping to keep me motivated.
Boring and simple.
Connecting these two parts is a bitch for one person with a 4x4.
This is the 16" oscillating fan that I bought specifically for the tent.
And this is the 6" clip on fan which I settled on after the oscillating fan was obviously way too large.
Worked out that the 6" that I bought didn't really work either, so there's no fan inside the tent right now.
These tents aren't thoughtfully designed for mounting oscillating fans, IMHO.
Just wanted to ensure that the 16 buckets fit comfortably in the tent - still not sure if I'm gonna have a reservoir for each eight bucket system, and if I do, whether it will be inside or outside of the tent - if outside, they'd each be 9 bucket systems, FYI.
If I don't have a reservoir, I'm just going to have to lift up a plant from each system to check pH and TDS daily, which doesn't seem like that big of a deal right now (although that could change later).
So here's where I'm at right now - have installed the 6" inline which will only be cooling the 1000 watt.
Also have hung the 6" by 24" carbon filter, but still need to install the 6" inline which will be responsible for exhausting the room through the carbon filter.
Also my 4" inline for intake into the room.
Long day tomorrow, g'night all.
If anyone has any suggestions as to the best way to fit those three inlines, massive reflector, and gargantuan filter inside of a 4x4 tent, I'm all ears.
Twils
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Oh ok haha!
Damn man you put that 4x4 together solo?! Props for that! I don't wanna think how much of a pain that would have been!
Was the hardest part connecting the 2 halves?
Sick little set up you have there Bob! I've been getting things ready for a perpetual set up to harvest 3 plants every 2 weeks but was not sure if I could fit the homer buckets haha! Thanks for the confirmation!
Burn on!
Yeah, the only other person who knows I grow in the world is 5'3 and was at work (my girlfriend and roommate), so I had to beast that little sonuvabitch by myself - even at 6'3 and 230lbs, the hardest part wasn't connecting the two halves, but pulling the heavy skin over them.Oh ok haha!
Damn man you put that 4x4 together solo?! Props for that! I don't wanna think how much of a pain that would have been!
Was the hardest part connecting the 2 halves?
Sick little set up you have there Bob! I've been getting things ready for a perpetual set up to harvest 3 plants every 2 weeks but was not sure if I could fit the homer buckets haha! Thanks for the confirmation!
Burn on!
Gonna try for some solid progress today, pics will be coming - since it's a grow journal, I figure I might as well update how the actual plants are coming along.
Well, since I'm beyond overwhelmed at the thought of putting all this shit together right now, here's some current plant pics..........topped off all the bubblers with 5.3ish water because they were all at either 6.1 or 6.2, so now they're all right at 6.0.
Here's the clones, all recovering nicely from when I found them pretty damned dry yestereday - probably add a couple of extra days to their rooting, but I think they'll all be fine - gonna make a bubble cloner fairly soon (for my next batch).
Beans are doing good for the most part, but two of them seem to have had the same problem as the clones - water level got a little low and two of them were really dried out - hand water them this morning, so we'll see how they do, but the others are doing great and their roots tell me that they're getting close to officially being vegging plants as opposed to seedlings.
Here are the two "mamas" (really both clones off the original dirt mama) - they're both recovering nicely from the bout of algae/root rot that I was fighting - I love me some H2O2, works like a fugging charm.
Here are some "test" plants that I was messing around with - they're all doing pretty well, too, and have new white root growth as opposed to the brown crap that they had before. In addition, that algae smell that I hate is all but gone.
So here's what I need to do today (which has me feeling overwhelmed) - hang the line, another 6" fan, my 4" fan, and make sure the carbon filter isn't gonna come crashing down on my ladies.
Running to Home Depot to get:
Hangers for the light (it came with one of those yo-yo hangers, but I don't trust that as much as I trust some good old chain and steel hooks, I'm old school)
Bungees (only four came with the tent, need LOTS more)
Also gonna stop by the hydro store and see if my neoprene inserts came for my bubble cloner that I'm going to build.
Here's the clones, all recovering nicely from when I found them pretty damned dry yestereday - probably add a couple of extra days to their rooting, but I think they'll all be fine - gonna make a bubble cloner fairly soon (for my next batch).
Beans are doing good for the most part, but two of them seem to have had the same problem as the clones - water level got a little low and two of them were really dried out - hand water them this morning, so we'll see how they do, but the others are doing great and their roots tell me that they're getting close to officially being vegging plants as opposed to seedlings.
Here are the two "mamas" (really both clones off the original dirt mama) - they're both recovering nicely from the bout of algae/root rot that I was fighting - I love me some H2O2, works like a fugging charm.
Here are some "test" plants that I was messing around with - they're all doing pretty well, too, and have new white root growth as opposed to the brown crap that they had before. In addition, that algae smell that I hate is all but gone.
So here's what I need to do today (which has me feeling overwhelmed) - hang the line, another 6" fan, my 4" fan, and make sure the carbon filter isn't gonna come crashing down on my ladies.
Running to Home Depot to get:
Hangers for the light (it came with one of those yo-yo hangers, but I don't trust that as much as I trust some good old chain and steel hooks, I'm old school)
Bungees (only four came with the tent, need LOTS more)
Also gonna stop by the hydro store and see if my neoprene inserts came for my bubble cloner that I'm going to build.
Thanks pwizzle, glad to have you aboard.Nice grow. Really nice setup!!
Good things to come from Mr. bob
So just got back from Home Of Pot and my hydro store........
Can never have enough duct tape, and bought bungees of every shape and size for hanging the fans and filter from.
Hydro store just got this new micro bubble airstone, so of course I had to get one to try it out.
The neoprene inserts I'd ordered through the store also came in - have 25 of these little suckers.
Well, enough break time, gonna eat some lunch and then get cracking on finishing this setup, although I highly doubt it's gonna get finished by today.
Twils
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Looking good bob! It sounds like you and I had the same experience setting up our 4x4's ! my wife is all of 5'4" and I'm also 6'3" .. having her help trying to put the halves and the canvas over was well... I needed more than 1 joint lets put it that way lol!
Looking really good though! Keep up the good work and positive thinking!
burn on!
Looking really good though! Keep up the good work and positive thinking!
burn on!
Thanks gentlemen, the words of encouragement are certainly nice when going about this undertaking; made some good progress for a while and am calling it quits for the day to go workout - here's where I'm at:
So here's the amount of shit I had to hang from the ceiling - reflector, two 6" inlines, one 4" inline, and the carbon filter.
Yay.
Obviously need to start with the light, as that's the one piece of the puzzle that is non-negotiable in terms of placement; everything else can go wherever it fits, but the light needs to be centered.
So I got the light hooked up to its own dedicated 6" for cooling; still curious how hot that's gonna run when it's on - obviously, time will tell.
And this is the carbon filter hooked up to the other 6" for cleaning the air before it's exhausted out of the tent - have never used a filter before, so I'm curious to see how well this works (the one I got is supposed to be badass, it's a Phresh Filter).
So that's about it, except that I made some progress on the fan front - seems like I can hang a couple of those 6" clip-on fans from the ceiling via bungees in each tent, thereby always having some airflow in there, even if the exhaust and intake fans aren't running.
In case anyone was wondering, yes, I am a little nervous about that much weight hanging from some flimsy metal poles, but you can't live life without taking risks; that being said, anyone's input and/or suggestions for mitigating that risk would definitely be appreciated.
So here's the amount of shit I had to hang from the ceiling - reflector, two 6" inlines, one 4" inline, and the carbon filter.
Yay.
Obviously need to start with the light, as that's the one piece of the puzzle that is non-negotiable in terms of placement; everything else can go wherever it fits, but the light needs to be centered.
So I got the light hooked up to its own dedicated 6" for cooling; still curious how hot that's gonna run when it's on - obviously, time will tell.
And this is the carbon filter hooked up to the other 6" for cleaning the air before it's exhausted out of the tent - have never used a filter before, so I'm curious to see how well this works (the one I got is supposed to be badass, it's a Phresh Filter).
So that's about it, except that I made some progress on the fan front - seems like I can hang a couple of those 6" clip-on fans from the ceiling via bungees in each tent, thereby always having some airflow in there, even if the exhaust and intake fans aren't running.
In case anyone was wondering, yes, I am a little nervous about that much weight hanging from some flimsy metal poles, but you can't live life without taking risks; that being said, anyone's input and/or suggestions for mitigating that risk would definitely be appreciated.
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Twils
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We seem to have the same tents, I was a little concerned about the flimsy bars also, but the more I thought about it, I really don't have much weight directly in the center at one given point on the bars.
I had a vertical fixture set up for a little bit which weighs about 35lb's which was directly in the center of one of the bars for over night and it held up without collapse, The next day it was replaced with another horizontal fixture.
I think if you keep most of the weight near the edges more so than the centers of the bars you should be alright. As a safe bet I'd estimate that I've got approx 55-60lbs hanging from the top right now.
I've been thinking thought... after this set of girls is flowered out I'd like to put some extra bars up for support, but trying to figure out how to attach them still.
Burn on!
I had a vertical fixture set up for a little bit which weighs about 35lb's which was directly in the center of one of the bars for over night and it held up without collapse, The next day it was replaced with another horizontal fixture.
I think if you keep most of the weight near the edges more so than the centers of the bars you should be alright. As a safe bet I'd estimate that I've got approx 55-60lbs hanging from the top right now.
I've been thinking thought... after this set of girls is flowered out I'd like to put some extra bars up for support, but trying to figure out how to attach them still.
Burn on!
Thanks Twils, appreciate the input - I'm not too worried about the tent collapsing, but I guess crazier shit has happened, so it's a definite risk - BTW, what kind of a system are you running in your tent?We seem to have the same tents, I was a little concerned about the flimsy bars also, but the more I thought about it, I really don't have much weight directly in the center at one given point on the bars.
I had a vertical fixture set up for a little bit which weighs about 35lb's which was directly in the center of one of the bars for over night and it held up without collapse, The next day it was replaced with another horizontal fixture.
I think if you keep most of the weight near the edges more so than the centers of the bars you should be alright. As a safe bet I'd estimate that I've got approx 55-60lbs hanging from the top right now.
I've been thinking thought... after this set of girls is flowered out I'd like to put some extra bars up for support, but trying to figure out how to attach them still.
Burn on!
And what all do you have hanging from the ceiling, pretty much the same stuff as me or some different things?
Twils
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Hanging from the ceiling right now I've got:
1 Old school magnetic ballast attached to hood (horizontal reflector) 400w (weighs like 30 lbs! freaking beast! LOL)
1 Cool-Sun XL 6" Air Cooled Hood w/ remote ballast (approx 15lbs, the box says 28lbs but I think that's bogus)(went off that approx weight though for my ceiling weight)
1 6" Eco Plus Inline Fan 440cfm (approx 10lbs)
1 8" fan hung upside down because I could not find any where to mount it (approx 2 lbs)
1 10" Oscillating fan hung upside down because I could not find any where to mount it either (approx ~3 lbs)
Some duct work hanging from a Y adapter to air cool the hood and exhaust the room at the same time, about 2-4lbs worth of extra crap that I'm forgetting.
Still need to buy/hang:
1 Carbon filter
1 6" Eco Plus Inline Fan 440cfm
1 1 Cool-Sun XL 6" Air Cooled Hood w/ remote ballast
The ballast (s) are out side of the tent sitting on the floor with a little fan blowing on it to help keep it cool.
Burn on!
Edit: Total of 800w of lighting (2- 400's) Although I'll be upgrading to 2- 600's after this grow. and moving those lights into a different room.
1 Old school magnetic ballast attached to hood (horizontal reflector) 400w (weighs like 30 lbs! freaking beast! LOL)
1 Cool-Sun XL 6" Air Cooled Hood w/ remote ballast (approx 15lbs, the box says 28lbs but I think that's bogus)(went off that approx weight though for my ceiling weight)
1 6" Eco Plus Inline Fan 440cfm (approx 10lbs)
1 8" fan hung upside down because I could not find any where to mount it (approx 2 lbs)
1 10" Oscillating fan hung upside down because I could not find any where to mount it either (approx ~3 lbs)
Some duct work hanging from a Y adapter to air cool the hood and exhaust the room at the same time, about 2-4lbs worth of extra crap that I'm forgetting.
Still need to buy/hang:
1 Carbon filter
1 6" Eco Plus Inline Fan 440cfm
1 1 Cool-Sun XL 6" Air Cooled Hood w/ remote ballast
The ballast (s) are out side of the tent sitting on the floor with a little fan blowing on it to help keep it cool.
Burn on!
Edit: Total of 800w of lighting (2- 400's) Although I'll be upgrading to 2- 600's after this grow. and moving those lights into a different room.
Thanks man - sounds like we're both gonna have our ceilings packed to the gills - just checked out your grow, that shit's looking greatHanging from the ceiling right now I've got:
1 Old school magnetic ballast attached to hood (horizontal reflector) 400w (weighs like 30 lbs! freaking beast! LOL)
1 Cool-Sun XL 6" Air Cooled Hood w/ remote ballast (approx 15lbs, the box says 28lbs but I think that's bogus)(went off that approx weight though for my ceiling weight)
1 6" Eco Plus Inline Fan 440cfm (approx 10lbs)
1 8" fan hung upside down because I could not find any where to mount it (approx 2 lbs)
1 10" Oscillating fan hung upside down because I could not find any where to mount it either (approx ~3 lbs)
Some duct work hanging from a Y adapter to air cool the hood and exhaust the room at the same time, about 2-4lbs worth of extra crap that I'm forgetting.
Still need to buy/hang:
1 Carbon filter
1 6" Eco Plus Inline Fan 440cfm
1 1 Cool-Sun XL 6" Air Cooled Hood w/ remote ballast
The ballast (s) are out side of the tent sitting on the floor with a little fan blowing on it to help keep it cool.
Burn on!
Twils
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No prob bro!Thanks man - sounds like we're both gonna have our ceilings packed to the gills - just checked out your grow, that shit's looking great
Can't wait to see your set up up and running! The ceilings are definitely packed that's for sure!
I've been thinking of how I could attach some more supports some how to make it a little bit more structurally sound. Still trying to figure that one out though, guess I could bolt on some 2x4's if need be.
Burn on!