Bubble cloner issue. + reps will be given for helpful answers

Guys been using this dwc bubble cloner for a year now with 100% success rate with no gel or powders just plain tap water not ph'd. I don't pH cause there aren't any roots and pH isn't that crucial until roots show. Like I said 100% success rate every time. A month ago I got this white mucus developing in my res and all over clone stems. I cleaned with bleach let it run through cloner for about 4 hrs. I also cleaned neoprene collars with bleach and dried them with a hair dryer in about 10 minutes. I put some calcium hypochlorite in the res to keep it sterile. Calcium hypochlorite is the active ingredient in clear res. So I put clones in and add 3 ml/ gal of my sterilizing solution. Clones are looking good at first but some of my clones are getting brown and mushy and have a little white mucus on the tip. The mushy clones are some that I took from a Holy grail kush that has been in flowering for 6 weeks. I have cleaned everything and used the hth pool shock for sterilization. Don't know what else to do. I can't understand where this problem is hiding I've cleaned everything. My tap water has a ppm of 150 and temps are 74 degrees in the res. I was thinking of getting some spring water. Im really stumped i will try anything please help. Plus reps will be given for helpful answers.

Weird,everything sounds in order.
is the res dark?is sun/light getting into it?
Could be a algae bloom.

you said you don't use anything besides water when cloning,I was going to say if your running organic root stimulants/ferts the calcium hypochlorite could be messing with it.....sorry not much help

The problem started with me using too much fulmag to pH down the res. Its was phd to 6 but I guess fulmag isn't a strong enough pH down so the amount I had to use to pH down the res must of put too much of something else in the res cause a few days after adding the ful mag everything got this milky semen like mucus. So that when I started the cleaning and bleaching of everything. So after all the cleaning I tried to pH down the res again with vitagrow pH down. A few days later no mucus in res but there was a drop of this mucus on the tip of each clone stem. I cleaned res again added some calcium hypochlrorite and pH down. My og clones started getting brown on the tips with some mucus on tips. Weird thing is not all clones are doing this now. Only the older og clones. I have some other clones of the same of og strain and they were recently taken and they look fine. Also have some clones of other strains in there too and they look good but no roots or bumps yet. My clones don't wilt or die the stem just gets mushy and brown with a drip of mucus. Could this be my water or the pH down. Didn't think it was the water cause I live in the same place and the water is the same ppm as before ;around 150. Don't know what else it could be. My cloner is an oxycloner by the way. Hell I thought about buying a new oxyhead and new neoprene collars. I don't know what else to do. This cloner use to be so fucking good I could of cloned myself if I would stuck one of my fingernails in one of those collars.lol. now its shit and I don't know why. Please help!!!! + reps are waiting

Anyone, going once, going twice.

No one uses bubble cloners? Thanx for all the help. Answers on another site I guess.

Clones still look fine. Maybe 74 degrees is to low for cloning. I wonder if I use aquafina in the res and get it close to 80 would I see a difference?

ok sounds like your cutting got an air lock .. also i use a bubble cloner and if my res gets over 70 then my stems start to brown and get mushy. i change my water every 5 days. using only water when it get hot i put a frozen bottle of water in the res.. i sometimes put a tablespoon or two of hydrogen peroxide in the res if they get nasty. but i usually get 99-100% ratio but the breed also is sometimes the issue.. just keep following your instructions and sometimes less is more.. KEEP ON GROWIN

You're saying that you took clones from a plant that's six weeks into flowering? There's your problem right there. Also, instead of calcium hypochlorate you may want to try *sodium* hypochlorate (bleach); it's wicked against slime and res goo. Hydrogen peroxide is also good; the more O2 you can get in there the better.

Peroxide is your fix. it add a capful to everytime you add watter.

i dont use a bc anymore. but i had one. peroxide is the cure to almost all dwc.ails.

stop cutting in flowering. its wrong for many reasons.
It will seriously make it harder for em to root.
and its in flower. need i really say anymore? no one clones flowering plants if they can help it

I have cut clones in flower many times before with good success. And also calcium hypochlorite is way better for plants than sodium dichlora s or whatever is in bleach. The sodium could become toxic while cuttings can use the calcium in calcium hypochlorite. I need to go back to the basics. When I started I used tap water only 100% now I just don't know. I have also found some very confusing info about water temp. One thread will say 65 to 75 is optimal, then I read where 80 is what you want for cloning. So which is it cause I have a heat mat but I don't know if the water should be warmer or not. I am at 74 now.

kushhound187 said:

Peroxide is your fix. it add a capful to everytime you add watter.

i dont use a bc anymore. but i had one. peroxide is the cure to almost all dwc.ails.

stop cutting in flowering. its wrong for many reasons.
It will seriously make it harder for em to root.
and its in flower. need i really say anymore? no one clones flowering plants if they can help it

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I didn't plan on cutting g them while in flower but my cloner has been fucked up and I couldn't get any clones to root. They were getting too big in my veg room so I had to flower. Alsoi read hydrogen peroxide can inhibit root growth in clones. Is this true? I read peroxide is good once the grow is established but bad for cuttings. I don't know I just read this shit.

Point me in the right direction please some. What about using aquafina. Many growers swear by in their cloner. Just something g else I have read. Is this true also

Vonkins said:

I have cut clones in flower many times before with good success. And also calcium hypochlorite is way better for plants than sodium dichlora s or whatever is in bleach. The sodium could become toxic while cuttings can use the calcium in calcium hypochlorite. I need to go back to the basics. When I started I used tap water only 100% now I just don't know. I have also found some very confusing info about water temp. One thread will say 65 to 75 is optimal, then I read where 80 is what you want for cloning. So which is it cause I have a heat mat but I don't know if the water should be warmer or not. I am at 74 now.

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I was suggesting cleaning your gear with it, not putting it in with the plants.

I made my DWC cloner from using 2 sterilite 1.5 gallon "shoebox" containers. 2 bubblestones 10" long ,glued down with Shoe-Goo. I took some sandpaper and scuffed up the bottom surface before I glued them down. I ran 1/4" aquarium tubing off each bubblestone, using 2 aqua culture aquarium pumps. Each pump was around $6.00. I used to 2 pumps instead of a single dual outlet because I wanted a back-up pump in case one pump failed, the other pump would be enough to keep the cuttings alive with enough dissolved oxygen.

I use a seed starting heating mat that my cloner sits on to keep the water in the mid-70s range. I think the temp of the water being constantly in the 75-78 degree range is the key to cloning success. I change my water every 48 hours. I use a teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide IN THE WATER, pH is around 6.4-to-6.6

I put the teaspoon of peroxide in every time I change the water. It will keep that snot looking semen-jizz from forming on top of the water. The cloner is foil-taped all over. The spare 1.5 gallon container is used as a humidity dome that I spray with the same pH'ed 6.4-to-6.6 water. I spray the inside of the container every morning and every night. The only light I use is 2 CFL's that are 14 watts each and 5000k. The bulbs burn 24/7 until I they have all sprouted roots. I have 11 clone sites. I have seen roots as early as 7 days and between day 10 and 11, ALL cuttings have roots.

I use no gels, no powders, only pH'ed 6.4-to-6.6 water and a teaspoon of peroxide. I used to wait every 4 days to change the water but I'd sometimes see the dreaded semen-like slime floating around the edges of the container. When I went to 2 day water changes I never saw anymore slime. It's not an inconvenience to change the water that often because it's only 1.5 gallon to change out. I fill a pot up on the stove with water, heat it till it's around 80 degrees, add a teaspoon of peroxide , add vinegar to bring it down to 6.4-to-6.6 pH because it's around 8.2 out of the spigot.

I pour the water into the container till it's 1 inch from the lid, sometimes 1.25" from the lid, I like to have my stems 1 inch below the bottom surface of the neoprene inserts but I do keep them inside the water.

Maybe I need to add some peroxide to the res. Only thing I read is peroxide is good for growing plants but not good for rooting clone. This info has to be wrong because too many people are putting peroxide in their res with great results. What strength peroxide should I put in the res