Branches Drooping, Diagnosis??

404NotFound

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So my plants are BlackJack from Nirvana in a soil grow and caught spidermites while sitting outside awaiting for my LEDs to come in. My buddy from Cali says he knew how to get rid of them and doused my plants in Neem, dish soap and water and ended up suffocating my plants. Majority of the leaf matter died and I put my plants in its grow box when I got the lights in. Some new leaves started coming in and now my plants branches are drooping and shriveling up [branches with the new growth]. I haven't been giving them any nutes as I'm using SubCools Super Soil Recipe. In the box, the humidity and temps are on an average of:

Humidity: 50-58%
Temps: 82-91 F

I've been watering as I should and they were on a 14-10 schedule. I have fans in there circulating air around them, I haven't an idea of what is causing this issue. Just need a diagnosis of what it is, I'm probably going to take a hit on my 2 month veg and have to start over.

I know temps were high, but was it maybe too high?

-404

DSCN1965.jpgDSCN1966.jpg I know they look horrible. Never again will I let someone advise me to let them try to help my plant issues.
 

smokinrav

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The one is drooping because it is dead and wont recover. The other looks pretty normal for what you described. Let it go and see what happens.

Remember this....it will not need watered for a LONG time. Maybe even two weeks. Let it be, observe what happens, and you may still salvage the plant for harvest or the genetics for cloning. Talk about what you want to do next here before you do it.
 

404NotFound

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I appreciate the input. The one that is drooping looked like the other one before it started doing that, only time will tell though.
 

monkeybones

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not worth salvaging, sorry.

if this were an animal you would put it down

you also wanna bring that temperature closer to 77-82F

avoid putting indoor plants outside, as they're much more susceptible to the pathogens and infestations that they have no resistance toward

a plant that young with spider mites... really never stood a chance with that cocktail it got doused in. i wouldn't have done that. maybe just done it manually and if that failed, called it quits
 

Dr Kynes

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they are dead.

heres some tips:

get REAL SOIL not that potting mix full of wood chips. soil should be smooth and fine grained with no twigs sticks bark or chunks of wood in it! if it smells like a lumberyard it aint dirt.

plant them in much smaller pots till they are ready for big ones. too much dirt and too little root makes your pot into a fungus chamber while the root zone is dry

spider mites are rare outside of greenhouses and close growing established crops. they just dont travel well. if you had spider mites they were on the clones when yo got them, and are still in that shitty potting mix. get rid of all that shit

go easy on the nutrients, i never use more than half what is recommended on any plant, and my plants are happier for it. (except fox farms, their shit is pretty accurate. my hydro system is using about 2/3 the fox farms directions)

start from seeds. bought clones are almost always hiding some infestation or other. only accept clones from somebody who you know has their shit down TIGHT!

lower temps and lower humidity. 50%-58% RH at 80-90 degrees is wet as fuck, and an invitation to fungus, mould and mildew.

light should be 24 hours a day or 18/6 during vegetation, and 12/12 for flowering. cannabis as a plant doesnt need a dark period, but to keep temps lower 6 hours with the lights off may help.

never let ANYONE know you grow. even if youre legal, youre never legal. any plant grown in any part of the US, even one sickly seedling is 3-5 years in federal prison, and as Eric "Cock Breath" Holder said: "...regardless of any state laws..."
 

404NotFound

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Starting over then is a must. I still have 6 seeds of 5 strains to grow out. I have 2 blackjack, 1 Skywalker OG Kush, 1 Blueberry Gum, 1 Aphrodite and 1 Gnomo Auto. I've heard Fox Farms is good, but also comes with bugs in the soil already. I'll give it a try though. I have to reconfigure my grow cab to keep it cooler in there along with bringing the humidity down before I start up another one. It just sucks that I've put in time for one of my homies to turn around and screw it up.
 

Dr Kynes

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fox farms is good, and if there was bugs in the soil when you got it i would be all pitchforks and torches. haters gonna hate. only thing i ever heard about fox farms soil is it's expensive and spicy.
 

george xxx

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QUOTE]spider mites are rare outside of greenhouses and close growing established crops. they just dont travel well.[/QUOTE]

If you smoke enough your little corner of the world may be free of spider mites but the rest of the world has plenty of spider mites without greenhouses or crops.:eyesmoke:
 

Dr Kynes

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QUOTE]spider mites are rare outside of greenhouses and close growing established crops. they just dont travel well.
If you smoke enough your little corner of the world may be free of spider mites but the rest of the world has plenty of spider mites without greenhouses or crops.:eyesmoke:[/QUOTE]


spidermites travel far less effectively than even aphids, and aphids pretty much just throw themselves to the wind and hope they land on a plant.

without another plant to provide bridging access to the foliage spidermites spend their lives on a single plant. . spidermites only thrive in close growing environments where multiple plants can touch to allow access to new areas of infestation. thye are the opposite of locusts and grasshoppers who can travel miles seeking areas with plants to feed on. spidermites need an easy path from one plant to another, which is pretty much greenhouses, crops, and deep wild undergrowth.
 

scroglodyte

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the SS goes in the last pot, not the first one, imo. and, yeah.......lose the wood-chip soil. probably pine-based and acidic. those plants, between the hot soil, temps, and poor drainage of that mulch-ass soil have passed on.
 
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