Boxed Wine Cabinet and Cabrenet

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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    Also the BR is the only other non F1 in the cabinet so stability??
     
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    GroErr

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    That'll work fine, wasn't sure which male you were referring to. Just keep an eye for nanners on those and their crosses, as mentioned they haven't been worked although both parents were nice and stable so shouldn't have any issues. Both parents are also good producers so that cross should have some nice producing phenos. Really interested to hear what smells and flavours you find in those, both parents were quite loud in the terps department.
     
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    GroErr

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    Yeah, the BR's you ran are BX1's from an F2 mother and F1 father. Have run or seen (run by others) about 100 of those so far with no issues on stability.

    Edit: That's more like an F2 mother and F1 grandfather ;)
     
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    SSGrower

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    Grandfather because it was from stored pollen used on the younger generation? There's a word for that......


    Pedophilia
     
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    GroErr

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    Yes I kept my F1 male running for almost 2 years, he made the original F2's so he was the father of the F2 mother. Then crossed that F2 mother back to it's own (F1) father, so the BX1 babies are children and grandchildren of the F1 father. Inbreeding in plants is not a bad thing :shock:
     
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    SSGrower

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    Took clones of the BR female today and tried to come up with a plan for the next couple of weeks and decided Ill take the best looking mountain thunder and hit it with the BR since it is not maturing as fast as the BPL the bpl will be first, just one ot two branches tho.
     
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    GroErr

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    The BR's typically clone quick in comparison to most of what I run. Couldn't find anything on that mountain thunderous that your own cross?
     
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    SSGrower

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    Mt Thunder is from The Farm https://thefarmco.com
    It is their "mad cow" crossed with dj shorts sour bubble (whoever dj short is idk)

    I bet The BPL (starting to want to call it lemon ripper cause of smells, not lemony per say by citriusy) clones like hell, it was shoot root nodes 3/4 inch above the soil.
     
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    SSGrower

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    ^^^^^^see above
     
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    GroErr

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    I see a regional farm that also sells seeds, cross looks interesting.

    No doubt you should find some citrus, lemon, and blueberry smelling phenos in that line BRxPL line. If I find something different enough from what I'm currently crossing and continue that one beyond F1's it'll be called BLemon ;) The Plemon mother was dank/earthy but not a lemon pheno. But the Blue Ripper has either lemon leaning, or blueberry leaning phenos. Lemon coming from the JTR side, Blueberry was the original father. Some phenos blend a bit of both but most lean one way or the other, and loud :)
     
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    SSGrower

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    BRxPL day 30 from start of 21 day transition
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    Two distinct phenos, left fruitier, right not so much. I fy you can zoom in there are more purple calyx on the one on the right too.

    Group shot
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    BR x PL in back row
    BR on left and bubbles gift on right in middle row
    Mtn. Thunder in front row

    BRxPL male
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    Excited and nervous at the same time.....
     
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    GroErr

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    Looking great in there, see that male is starting to drop pollen :mrgreen:

    Some of the PL phenos show purples, the mother didn't so much but the genes are there so not surprised if you see some on that one BR x PL. The BR x PL's look to be leaning towards the PL structure and leaf formation (sharply serrated edges vs. smoother on the BR in front of them). The lone BR is looking good, great structure for production, tight nodes and branchy :) Any funky/skunky smells coming off any of them on a stem rub?
     
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    SSGrower

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    Yes, so right or wrong I used smell in my final determination of which br x PL to dust with said pollen and the two that were most similar got paired.
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    This being my first shot (the BR is still waiting in the wings so I'll get a 2nd chance) any feedback is appreciated. I didn't want to entirely dust the area so mr. BR x PL got the axe today after rubbin on a couple mrs. purple br x pl. Both had an eye watering stem rub, the other ms. BR x PL more like taste it than smell it sweetish. So mrs. Purple had the bag over her head the whole time, the area (not the 2 branches) was misted with water a couple hrs later. Then 6 hrs after the fan leaves were lightly wiped down with a damp cloth, area misted again and bag removed. What should I do differently and Is she ready to be introduced back to the group?
     
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    SSGrower

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    @DonTesla you asked for it. My "typical" elk dud brew.
    Ingediets
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    In the blender jar is a clump of roots a few male tops and leaves, some clean out from the smoke drawer and water. (Pic below) Variations in this batch are the male tops are further along than I have used before and undoubtedly have Diatomaceous Earth on them, also used hot water and allowed to soak 20 min before blending cause fear of mites. Side note decided not to do any more permethryn, I don't think they're gone but de is so hard to clean up, it has been acting on the buggers for several days now and will ride this out.

    I use 1-2 tsp molasses after blending roots and clippings then add the elk duds and top off with em-1 (or aem, I rebrew 5 gal when bottle gets low)

    Lightly cap and place in warm shade watching the solids that float mixing if top gets dry. It they mostly settle out after mixing I call it done usually 5-7 days depending on temp.

    Most people seem to stick with growing chutes in their ferments, imo roots since they already contain processed nutrients are just logical to include (they havent given me any trouble that I've noticed). I will also casually motor pH during the process, if it stops dropping before the cap has fallen I'll go ahead a dilute it down and use it.

    1qt will dilute don't to 4-6 gallons.

    As you can see I'm highly exacting in my methods..:roll:
     

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    GroErr

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    Sounds good, looks like you had it covered to not spread too much around. Just watch the hairs where you painted in the next 24 hours, you should see the hairs recede and turn brown/redish which will just confirm the pollen took. Fresh pollen like you're hitting with is pretty well guaranteed unless you get a dud male shooting blanks. Once you've sprayed them down, they should be fine to go back in, if you're concerned about potentially blowing some more around where no wanted, spray them again and then re-intro them.
     
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    DonTesla

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    Thanks for tag SSG...
    I like how you have a big pile of towels right there, ready to rock.
    So if you spilled a poop ferment, you'd be golden ahahah
    No but really,
    I really think you're gonna love frass.. its like playing with elk duds and sat's at the same time, with no wait and no work.

    Cool how you add the roots though.. I dig that. Hope you get some killer results from this !!
     
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    SSGrower

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    Included frass in last 2 or 3 mixes, dosent specify type of bug, only says herbivore insect frass. 1515683791875-388709301.jpg
    Since I don't have a worm farm this seems like a good option to nor use as much worm castings. I hate the idea of shipping wet heavy stuff, IMO shipping dry ingredients less of carbon footprint, seems like hydro nute companies and cargo carriers just milking the public by shipping water. Not that I'm comparing worm castings to GH 3 part mix but they are used for Same purpose and if I can't source heavy shit locally, it rather replace it with a dry ingredient.

    And yeah, those towles get used a lot, sanitary cycle on washingmachine gets abbused.
     
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    SSGrower

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    Elk brew. If you look closely, you can see the seperation of layers. Click below for pic.
    In wine, the stuff in top is called the cap, when it falls primary fermentation is done, this means the specific gravity of the materials has equalized to some extent. It is this relation between sg and brix that has me particularly intrigued at this point. Why I got this. Pic below.

    Hey @sunni why can I insert pics (.jpg) sometimes and not others? Sometimes I can insert right in text others I cant?
     

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    sunni

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    Probably just how you’re doing it
     
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    Figured that but seems there is no rhyme or reason, sometimes I get the option buttons to insert as "thumbnail" or "full image" and others I don't, pictures taken with same device, pulling form same file location, just not getting recognized as an image. Is there a size limit for inserting images?
     

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