BOG Seeds

ilovereggae

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Happy to report that most of the beans pulled thru! Once they got their 2nd set of leaves going everything started looking good. A few that look like mutants/runts but letting them go for now.

5 solo cups on left are SourBubble

7 solo cups in middle are SourStrawberry

3 black containers to right are SourBubbleOG x Elvis

more SourBubble x GDP clones in the dome
 

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ilovereggae

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Sour Update 7/16/20

All of the seeds are doing great. Even the runt is coming along. Tossed one Sour Bubble to weird mutations / deformities.

Sour Bubble - red cups on left
Sour Bubble OG x Elvis - black square pots
Sour Strawberry - red cups middle
Sour Bubble X GDP - clones red cups right (4 in front are in my veganic supersoil mix as first test)

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Sour Strawberry looking fat
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Sour Bubble OG x Elvis structure is amazing even this small
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Sour Bubble x GDP after transplant into 2 gals + about to go into flower. (Middle one is being kept as a mom).
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YardG

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Ugh, kinda painful to look at my photos from the 4th, in the last two weeks the Sour Boggles have developed some kinda deficiency (or maybe more than one). I wouldn't mind if they were well into flower, but this is a bit early yet. Was going largely organic so I don't really want to hit them with salt nutes even though that's what I'm used to. Probably doesn't help that they're in overly small containers (I thought they were bigger than they are) and outside of a single cool spell it's been hot day after day.
 

ilovereggae

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Ugh, kinda painful to look at my photos from the 4th, in the last two weeks the Sour Boggles have developed some kinda deficiency (or maybe more than one). I wouldn't mind if they were well into flower, but this is a bit early yet. Was going largely organic so I don't really want to hit them with salt nutes even though that's what I'm used to. Probably doesn't help that they're in overly small containers (I thought they were bigger than they are) and outside of a single cool spell it's been hot day after day.
That sucks. Have they started flowering yet? Maybe you can still get them into bigger pots?

You could also try to hit them with some Recharge to boost the soil microbes. That fixed a bunch of issues for me and gives me way better growth overall.

I've also seen some people into Chicken Soup For The Soil which seems like mostly the same ingredients just premixed in liquid form with Milk whey added for nutrients (and also was reading up apparently it helps fight PM and a bunch of other cool stuff).
 

YardG

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I think they're close to flowering, but not quite yet. I considered uppotting (currently in 9+ gallon pots, nominally 10) but the plants are pretty big and I'd be doing it by myself. I'll look into those products, thanks for the tip(s).
 

ilovereggae

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do you think u could get to flower in that space? if u removed all the males. curious cuz i wanna try
I have flowered in this 2x2 before, but only a few small plants in 2 gal pots that I had to top/train to make work. I wouldnt do all of these plants at once in this space, but SourBubble is a good strain for SOG if you can find a pheno without much side branching. Would need to all be the same clone to be possible, otherwise if you try it from seed you are going to get unpredictable results with varying phenos having different feeding and space needs.
 
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I have some BOG genetics that I have saved. My room will be finished soon and I plan on popping some of these. Have had them for a few years laying in wait. SLS, LSD, sour grape and sweet Cindy. I would like to try his sour strawberry and original bubble gum though.
 

Budget Buds

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@ilovereggae My sour grapes showed sex a few days ago. We had a tornado roll through within 1/4 mile about 10 days ago and I only had one plant break, It was a sour grape. Everything else was knocked over but fine and if ya looked at them now you'd never know it.

I had 14 SG minus one and 7 males and 6 females. I pulled all but the one prime male so I can breed it with the one prime female to get seeds. The other females are going to be flowered sensi so I can see what the strain is all about . Just an update from over here. How's your crop doing ?
 

ilovereggae

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@ilovereggae My sour grapes showed sex a few days ago. We had a tornado roll through within 1/4 mile about 10 days ago and I only had one plant break, It was a sour grape. Everything else was knocked over but fine and if ya looked at them now you'd never know it.

I had 14 SG minus one and 7 males and 6 females. I pulled all but the one prime male so I can breed it with the one prime female to get seeds. The other females are going to be flowered sensi so I can see what the strain is all about . Just an update from over here. How's your crop doing ?
Nice, glad to hear they made it through the storm! Also nice that you are going to breed them to make some of your own seeds. I spent my entire evening after work reading a 175 page thread on ICMag where someone was doing some nice breeding work with BOG genetics. Started thinking I should just keep a male and make some of my own SB seeds to have forever.. But realistically I dont have that space atm, and this pheno hunt is going to be cramped enough. I still have another pack and a half (19?) SB seeds in the fridge. Hoping to move into a nicer place within next 6-12 mos and figure I should just wait until then to do any breeding.

Here is the 2x2 tent as of a few days ago with 7 Sour Strawberry, 4 Sour Bubble, and 3 Sour Bubble OG x Elvis. Everything in 1 gal grow bags in FFOF so I could pack them in. Super healthy and the SB have the fattest stalks ive ever seen on a 4 node plant!

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I moved the SBOGxElvis into another veg cab right after this to give them breathing room. These are fems so they will probably be the next ones to go into flower. One of them has some really cool vareigation on all of the leaves. I found a bunch of old posts that this is a somewhat rare SB trait that occasionally pops up. My buddy that made the seeds said he has never seen it before. This pheno is also the shortest of the 3, with some giant fan leaves. Was a runt and was gonna kill it but now I'm curious and want to see what it does in flower. I will get pics of these tomorrow along with more up to date individual shots of the other SB crosses to show various phenos.

Waiting on my test results so I can know sex. I should have had them by today but mail was slow to get them to the lab so at this point I'm hoping for Mon/Tues. Then I will cull the males unless one of them seems super special and you all tell me I'm crazy for not keeping it.

Last but not least here's a pic of the 4 little SBxGDP in flower now, day 16 since flip. 2 gal pots.

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Really love how they formed a little hedge. Probably won't top them next time tho, going to try more of a single cola SOG and try to squeeze 8 or 10 plants into each 18x46" tray in 3 gal bags. Next round of ones that will go in are looking perfect for that. I will take pics of those once I get them transplanted into the 1 gal bags. Also, this was a first experiment with my veganic super soil. Super excited with the early results. you can see that plants 2 and 4 (from front) are way healthier and about 4" taller than 1 and 3 which are in FFOF/Bu's. The FF ones are already looking hungry too, and their leaves are drier. Going to need to feed those some liquid Roots Organics nutes tomorrow. Hopefully the other ones are happy with just top dress and recharge, and the next round will definitely be all veganic.

Oh last thing, I sent some Bogglegum and Sour Blutooth to my friends in Jamaica. They made it through and have been popped this week. Hopefully will have some good shots to share soon if things go according to plan!
 
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Budget Buds

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@ilovereggae Wow everything looks great . Whats it cost to get em sexed via lab? All mine are outdoors and the days are starting to get shorter quick fast, they threw preflowers in a span of 2 days , every one is very uniform for the most part. I chose the shortest male and female for offspringas I'm in short supply for vertical space...Once my seeds are done I'll be happy to set ya up with some.... the last time I bred for seed I ended up with over 500 from a 2 ft plant so I'll have an excess.
 

ilovereggae

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@ilovereggae Wow everything looks great . Whats it cost to get em sexed via lab? All mine are outdoors and the days are starting to get shorter quick fast, they threw preflowers in a span of 2 days , every one is very uniform for the most part. I chose the shortest male and female for offspringas I'm in short supply for vertical space...Once my seeds are done I'll be happy to set ya up with some.... the last time I bred for seed I ended up with over 500 from a 2 ft plant so I'll have an excess.
Thanks! Im using Farmer Freeman so its like $12 per test if you buy 10 at a time. They had a July 4th sale that saved a couple bucks on the 10 packs so I grabbed a few to use for this BOG hunt. More than I paid for each seed but definitely worth it in my setup to maximize space for the ladies. I am going to keep all this seed stock as Moms, take clones, and that way once I pick my winners the Moms are ready to go with more cuts right away. My goal is 1 keeper from each strain.

Would love the SourGrapes for my collection :) Those would probably do awesome in JA as well. Hoping that they find the mythical grape Bogglegum pheno in the pack I sent them, but those would be amazing too.

I also have found a source for legit SourDubb cuts. I just don't want to overdo it and lose any of these genetics by getting in over my head. But once I move I really want to hit the Sour Dubb with a nice SB male to have an endless supply of those too. I have seen ppl cross with everything imaginable, but no one has just crossed it back to SB. I bet it would be even more potent, at the expense of some vigor but who knows. I just want those beans ;)

My other dream is to do a SB x Tangie or SB x Agent Orange or something with some crazy orange terps. I know Oni crossed Trop Cookies x SD. My buddy has an amazing cut of TC that might work, he just won't give it up (yet). Im not really a cookies fan tho so would rather find something else anyway and figure I got plenty of time, I'll find the right strain when the time is right.
 

Budget Buds

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My other dream is to do a SB x Tangie or SB x Agent Orange or something with some crazy orange terps.
Wow that's strange, I just harvested my indoor cali orange, found the great of the pack and took excess clones from my momma to play with, I'm planning on taking a cali O and chucking some pollen from the SG male at her. It's the best genetics of the orange run I just did and it has serious orange terps to it. It'll be 8-10 weeks but I'd definitely throw ya some of those too when the time comes :)
 

TerrapinBlazin

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I used to follow BOG way back in the day and just reconnected with him on Instagram. He responded to my email super quick and his prices are legit and I like that he takes PayPal. Just ordered a pack of the BOG Bubble, which I understand is somewhat of a timeless classic. I’m looking for a good bubblegum since I had problems with greenpoint’s bodega bubblegum. Says he throws in some free sour blutooth with every order. I’ve noticed that his stuff is in a lot of my favorite crosses and it’s super cool that he’s still around and taking orders. I’m really looking forward to hunting through these beans.

Edit: I was reading up some more on these strains and the flowering times all look really short, with some even saying they finish around 50 days? I’m used to everything taking more like 70-80.
 
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ilovereggae

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I was reading up some more on these strains and the flowering times all look really short, with some even saying they finish around 50 days? I’m used to everything taking more like 70-80.
Welcome to the BOG Gang @TerrapinBlazin!

Regarding the short flower times, that is one of BOG genetics advantages. Disadvantage is that veg can take twice as long with SourBubble and some of the other original genetics to get plants to the same size as other strains. He increased vigor in some of the crosses but those tend to be longer in flower. Like anything tho, those flower times are going to vary with pheno and preference. You gotta dig around on the web for them but there's plenty of grow journals from 10 yrs ago with the different strains to help give you an idea of what to expect.

Personally I think that with the last 10 years with everyone focused on cash crop commercial strains, stuff like this that has huge medicinal value but doesn't yield as well has fallen out of favor. I am more concerned with quality over quantity, so I dont really care about that. Plus I have seen some huge yields when running these in SOG, so thats my plan currently.

Fwiw, from seed everything has been super healthy for me and growing faster than expected. The only mom I have so far is the SBxGDP cross a friend made, and that def is slow in clone/veg, but also some of the heartiest plants I have run. A lot less sensitive to nutes and also don't feed as heavy as other strains.
 

ilovereggae

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Here is everything from seed so far. About to top all of these in a few minutes. I will let them go another 2 weeks or so then start to take clones.

Each plant is show straight ahead and from top to show growth patterns.

Sour Bubble #1-4

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