bodhi seeds

reallybigjesusfreak said:

hah now that you mention it, I remember I did have a gpen back in the day, and it was so awful its what really turned me off from vaping entirely. Price isnt really a huge issue, as I'd rather invest in a great vape the first time around. I've heard the mighty is awesome. I really havent heard anything bad about the Pax either.

edit: oh yeah I had an mflb years ago too, wasnt a huge fan but it worked alright.

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Yeah my first pen was a g pen or was garbage and they use to charge an arm and a leg for that piece of shit. Now I got a puffco plus and that thing is amazing!!!!

Thanks fellas. I appreciate the feedback.

I only vape....unless I am going somewhere that I can't bring contraband, i.e. out of state, then I preroll.... currently have a couple of Paxs', a Crafty, and a Volcano....which is strictly home use. I no longer smoke cigarettes, and no longer feel rough in the morning, unless it's one of those preroll nights...best thing about vapes, is if you are testing phenotypes, you can quickly try each one out with small samples to conclude which ones you want to pursue or trash....

reallybigjesusfreak said:

Damn, I'd love to try that strawberry milk ssdd. Also, what material is your ring? It looks awesome and I could use a new band.

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The keeper pheno turned out awesome! The two other females I ran were much lankier and had smaller nugs but overall a very unique and frosty strain. One of them had the quickest growth in veg I have ever seen with an insane stretch that took up most of the tent. It was nearly double the size of everything in the tent.

The ring is just sterling silver. It is oxidized black but the black wears off over time (quickly if you are a germophobe about your grow and wash your hands a 100 times a day). Her ring was expensive enough, so I went cheap on mine. haha It is really nice though! I got it off etsy:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/449576278/hammered-ring-for-men-black-wedding?ref=shop_home_active_5

ThatGuyMontag said:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16180075

This study found some degree of systemic uptake with Spinosad, but pretty much strictly in rockwool and nothing else. Just thought I'd throw that out there...


@MojoRizing


If you're going to use Spinosad go with Conserve SC. Don't even bother fucking around with. Monterey or Captain Jack's IMO.

Green Cleaner is great too, but expensive as fuck for what is just alcohol, oil, citric acid, SLS, and some salts.

You're still early enough in flower that I'd heat treat if you have a way. Heat treating is 100% my preferred method. I used it years ago to deal with a few mite species (it was a bad spot with multiple growers on one farm bringing in God knows what from God knows where). We had high ceilings so we just watered WAY heavy and then cranked the lights with no cooling and used propane heaters to get the rooms to 120 for an hour. This with green cleaner and Conserve a few times took care of it.

Heat damage is possible, especially if you're mainly using lights for the heat and can't get them high enough above the canopy, but we had multiple rooms just before flip and a couple shortly after, and saw no real damage. I'd definitely look around for people's experience heat treating further into flower though.

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I just use straight dow chemical spinosad. I can see the uptake not working in soil, but I use coco. What's your take on the differences in rockwools absorption vs coco coir?

Edit: cause they compare it to grow medium with different amounts of clay, which I assume is soil. Good citation though, I love the ncbi database.

MojoRizing said:

anyone have recommendations for something to use to get rid of mites at 3 weeks into flower?

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I have used spinosad about 2 or 3 weeks into flower myself. I wouldn't recommend spraying pesticides in flower, but I think spinosad is about as safe as you can get. It's natural and doesn't stick around for too long. It also doesn't smell so it's not going to have that kind of effect.

Vapes I have and use most are several Flowermates, Underdog and a couple Vapor Genies for heavy hits. Easiest to use are the Underdog and Flowermates.

Lurpin said:

I just use straight dow chemical spinosad. I can see the uptake not working in soil, but I use coco. What's your take on the differences in rockwools absorption vs coco coir?

Edit: cause they compare it to grow medium with different amounts of clay, which I assume is soil. Good citation though, I love the ncbi database.

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I would assume coco would see similar results as rockwool given that they're both soilless, and won't have other biological mechanisms getting in the way. I've been trying to find a full version of that paper that isn't behind a pay wall with no luck. Even Dow's product sheet cites limited systemic activity with translaminar activity in "some plants" and states "limited root uptake may also occur under certain conditions and environments." I'm assuming this conditions and environments are soilless...

I'd be really interested to see some actual stats on the efficacy of this in cannabis specifically, including what sort of concentration and lasting effect we see after dunking rooted clones. Dow does state that the strongest translaminar movement comes with new, young, aggressive growth

Has anyone tried White Lotus? I Haven't found any pictures and have been considering running it soon.

Purple wookie

ThatGuyMontag said:

I would assume coco would see similar results as rockwool given that they're both soilless, and won't have other biological mechanisms getting in the way. I've been trying to find a full version of that paper that isn't behind a pay wall with no luck. Even Dow's product sheet cites limited systemic activity with translaminar activity in "some plants" and states "limited root uptake may also occur under certain conditions and environments." I'm assuming this conditions and environments are soilless...

I'd be really interested to see some actual stats on the efficacy of this in cannabis specifically, including what sort of concentration and lasting effect we see after dunking rooted clones. Dow does state that the strongest translaminar movement comes with new, young, aggressive growth

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My brother is good at digging up free papers on this Russian scientific journal site. I'll see if he can find it

Edit: go to sci-hub.tw then put the url that you posted from ncbi and it will unlock/download it in pdf form. I didn't know it was that easy. He told me to do it myself haha.

reallybigjesusfreak said:

Oh awesome, thanks y'all! Im gonna go research vapes now.

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If you haven't already, check out www.fuckcombustion.com for vape research, gold mine of info.

I've been vaping for about 15yrs now and have owned and used a LOT of vapes so allow me to offer just one suggestion, go with your instinct here:

reallybigjesusfreak said:

Price isnt really a huge issue, as I'd rather invest in a great vape the first time around. I've heard the mighty is awesome.

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and buy the best vape you can afford that fits your needs (after much research).

For portables I use a Mighty like jayblaze710 mentioned, now for about 3yrs I think, since it first came out. It still going strong (S&B German engineering and manufacturing is top notch, still have a Volcano that is 15yrs old and still runs though I don't use it) and is a kick ass little machine and the best portable I've personally used. They have little capsules now that you can pre-pack your flower into and just carry those. It also has oil pads and the such for using extractions. As big a hitting portable as you're going to find.

But, for home use, and for the best vaping experience you can get in terms of sheer power and impact, and comes closest to replicating smoking effects, you can't beat a plug-in 'desktop vape'.

I am talking specifically about the models he is talking about:

jayblaze710 said:

There are some vaporizers that allow for extremely fast extraction and vaporization, but they’re more of a niche product.

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My personal top #1 vape, the hardest hitting vape by far I've ever tried, is the Sublimator.
These units are large and unweildy and expensive but, ho-lee-shit, nothing hits like them.
I paid about $600US for my base kit to use with my own glass pieces. However, this thing has run damn near 24/7 for the last 5 years, I kid you not. It's almost always on and ready for the wife and I (except when we sleep). No vape can hit the pain like this one also. It also produces a reclaim oil called sublimate that makes for excellent night time 'double deckers'... this is hitting flower and oil at the same time.

My 2nd place vape which I also owned until I my dog pulled it off the table, doh, is the Cloud EVO.
This is more refined than the Sublimator and almost as big a hitter. But a bit fragile with the glass bamboo (as it's called) which is the glass tube airpath.

There are a handful of others that qualify as big hitters, the members at FuckCombustion will answer any questions you have and steer you in the right direction for exactly what you want. You won't regret starting vaping, even if you don't give up toking completely (I still toke a bit), you'll find yourself vaping more often than not IF you get the right tool, if not it can be a very unrewarding experience... akin to having to take tiny sips of beer when you're used to chugging.

Good luck in your search.
Sorry to hijack the thread.

Here is the Sublimator:



The Cloud EVO:

Senokai said:

Has anyone tried White Lotus? I Haven't found any pictures and have been considering running it soon.

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Yes...pop em @Senokai ...I ran a White Lotus cut for over 3 years...I would still have the cut if things ...life worked out the way we want. I have some pics of her..but for some reason have not been able to post pics here for quite some time.

Useful said:

Yes...pop em @Senokai ...I ran a White Lotus cut for over 3 years...I would still have the cut if things ...life worked out the way we want. I have some pics of her..but for some reason have not been able to post pics here for quite some time.

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Thanks @Useful

reallybigjesusfreak said:

View attachment 4157950 Purple wookie

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Hows that purple woodie? Is that the original or the new version

jayblaze710 said:

For less than $100: Vapcap M (sale on puffitup right now). It’s super cheap, and gets a quick extraction with decent flavor. Downsides, you need to use a butane torch to heat the herb, and it’s a little complicated to use at first. I would look for videos on the technique before purchasing to make sure it’s something you’d like.

Boundless CF. I believe you can get it for <$100. It’s got a huge bowl, great for sharing. While it doesn’t have the best taste around, it’s got very good taste for the price. It also has a great battery life. It also heats up super fast. It’s basically a budget Mighty (see below). Downsides, it only has 5 (355 - 415) temperature settings, so you can’t fine tune temps as well as on other vapes. There’s also a CFX model with more temperature control, but it’s also more expensive.

For less than $150:
Healthy Rips Fury 2. It’s super small and portable, but still gets great flavor. It also gets very quick extraction with surprisingly thick vapor. You can also increment temps by 1 degree Fahrenheit. It’s awesome for microdosing too. IMO, it’s the best bang for your buck right now.

Top of the line:
The Mighty by Storz and Bickel. Best flavor hands down. It’s also got a huge bowl. You can pick specific temperatures. Downside is price. I believe it’s still over $300. It also takes a long time to heat up compared to most other modern vapes.

Some others to check out, I haven’t tried them all so can’t say personally. I’ve just heard from others that they’re good. Sticky Bricks makes some very nice butane vapes. Tricky to learn, but will give you huge hits. The DaVinci IQ is supposed to be good, but pricy. Boundless just released a new model called the Tera. It’s a high end vape, but early reviews have been very good. The Milana is an unregulated battery powered vape, meaning the herb keeps heating up the longer you press the button. This means you can get HUGE hits, but it’s also easy to accidentally combust.

Edit: I just checked out the prices on the PAX vapes, and they’re not as bad as they used to be. If you can find a deal on one they’re a decent vape. Comparing full prices, I’d still recommend the Fury 2 over them.

Oh almost forgot. Stay away from Gpen! They advertise a lot, so a lot of people end up buying them. They have a habit of combusting, or even worse, melting plastic. They’re just unsafe.

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I have the volcano digital and it’s is awesome for flavour unbelievable difference to smoking but it is definatley a different buzz or stone if you like. They don’t make you feel groggy and monged more of a uplifting high. And my brother has a
ver damper which is also very good if you like hitting bongs you will prefer the verdamper. The volcano is best for social situations because the verdamper is a lot more fragile and are easily breakable. I’ve not tried any portable vapes but a friend of mine says ‘the mighty’ is very good still yet to try it yet.

Freedom farmer 420 said:

Hows that purple woodie? Is that the original or the new version

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Lol woodie. I got the original, and then like next week after I saw v2 had came out, but no regrets, at least from what I'm seeing. I have heard reports of it mostly being foxtails, and that's only sort of true for my plants. there are foxtails but there is also some bulk to the bud underneath. Super sticky, resinous, and smells like shit berries. I have 3 in my tent, they are all fairly similar in color, smell, and foliage, but the bud structures vary a bit between the 3. One I threw into flower a week earlier than everything, and it is just 4 long cola's stacked top to bottom with nugs. It was my runt plant out of everything, I think that's why I said fuck it and flowered it smallest and early. There is visible purple on all of them, but its a nice lavender/lilac color, not a dark black purple. After hearing some reports, I am really excited about this one.

Lots of great info posted.

I think every question I've ever had about vapes has been answered in these last couple pages.

JohnGlennsGarden said:

Killer post. I've really been contemplating this for a while and I think you finally sealed the deal.
What's your preferred model? Any you would not recommend? I know @Chunky Stool switched models, got a good deal and was happy with it, but don't remember which one.

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Sublimator is a bad ass vape I really want to get one. My buddy has one they are worth the $$.

Rosinallday said:

Sublimator is a bad ass vape I really want to get one. My buddy has one they are worth the $$.

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It really is a stunning piece of gear. I'd kill to protect mine. Okay, that's a bit of hyperbole but you get the point.

edit: sorry, my bad, I removed the video because I had second thoughts about posting it here, I am crossing worlds.