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DoctorFrost

DoctorFrost

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I don't remember hearing of those descriptions so much on ssdd, maybe part of it but not totally as described. I haven't flowered any yet though. I have 4 in veg right now still unsexed. 3 bigger and 1 smaller. Out of the bigger ones the structure is very different. 1 is very robust with thick branches and very tight internodes, 1 is very stringy with tops coming out randomly and flopping all over, and 1 that is inbetween these 2, a little taller and more like the second one except it holds its weight better (hope its a female). I can't believe they haven't showed sex yet. For some reason I just can't tell yet.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Flaming Pie said:
Green cure. It works great. Kills on contact and creates a high ph environment that molds cannot survive.

It is a potassium bicarbonate.

http://www.ecofruit.net/2010/60_SC_M_Wenneker_J_Kanne_S366bis370.pdf
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Good stuff in my experience. I hate using it late in flower though, if you get any on pistils they become obviously burnt. I've generally had my best luck being diligent with preventative maintenance. Silicon sprays the first few weeks of flower as well as neem/aloe sprays (i basically do each once a week at different times for the first 3 weeks)... stuff works great.
 
littlegiant

littlegiant

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BadInfluence said:
Hey guys i hope you don't mind if i throw a quick question in here...
We have 2 sunshine daydream girls in week 5 of flower right now and they look really different. Both have the same structure and stretch. One is kinda skinny but very frosty. The buds are still very fluffy. It doesn't smell very strong but when you touch it your fingers smell of root beer and bazooka joe chewing gum. So far it doesn't look like a good yielder.
The other one is producing nice dense heavy buds and has a strong sweet fruity smell with some black pepper in it. It is frosty but not as much as the skinny one. We have cuttings of both but it looks as if the smelly one could be worth keeping for a while.

How many phenos are there and have you seen the ones described? What do your keepers look like?
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I got 2 pheno's of SSDD. There maybe more too. 1 looked exactly like the pic on choice. Tight kushy nugs, skinny sturdy stems and frosty as hell. The other pheno was a little taller, thicker stems and buds seemed to be on the fluffy side. Smelled a lot more berry then the first. Buds were a bit larger too and almost as frosty but in the end they were all fairly dense and frosty on both plants.
At first I thought the nugs were gonna be small, but then they started to fill out really nice and you will end up with some nugs with some weight. I let mine go 11 weeks, and im glad I did.
Good thing you kept cuttings of both plants cuz I sure wish I did. I did keep the super frosty skinny one going though. Both keepers in my opinion. Smoking some at the moment too.
You will not be disappointed dude. If it lasts that long for you,3-4 weeks in jars and you will be in heaven.:peace:
 
undercovergrow

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BadInfluence said:
...2 sunshine daydream girls in week 5 of flower right now and they look really different. Both have the same structure and stretch. ... How many phenos are there and have you seen the ones described? What do your keepers look like?
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so far i've seen four and they all had similar structure in growth patterns: one blueberry muffin pheno; two phenos that produce nice heavy, fat buds, with one of them that doesn't have much smell (to me); and, another thin bud that seems slightly hairier and seems to take a bit longer to ripen than the other phenos. harvest after 9-10 weeks of flower, but i've gone 11 weeks on them too. and i'm not catching any root beer and bazooka joe chewing gum on any but i'll check. ;-):cool:

i too am noticing that this thinner pheno seems to be covered in a lot more sugar than the other one growing right now (the lesser smelling pheno). i haven't smoked this last pheno yet but when i do, i'll update this for you, but so far, my favorites are the blueberry muffin pheno and the one heavy bud pheno that has a nice blueberry smell. both have been great smoke...well, even the third pheno that doesn't have a lot of smell, it is nice smoke, but i prefer the other two.

as a newbie, to my untrained eye, the thin pheno seems to look a lot like the picture Bodhi used in his SSDD description as it starts to fatten up. but what do i know? (:

:peace:
 
calicat

calicat

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BadInfluence said:
Hey guys i hope you don't mind if i throw a quick question in here...
We have 2 sunshine daydream girls in week 5 of flower right now and they look really different. Both have the same structure and stretch. One is kinda skinny but very frosty. The buds are still very fluffy. It doesn't smell very strong but when you touch it your fingers smell of root beer and bazooka joe chewing gum. So far it doesn't look like a good yielder.
The other one is producing nice dense heavy buds and has a strong sweet fruity smell with some black pepper in it. It is frosty but not as much as the skinny one. We have cuttings of both but it looks as if the smelly one could be worth keeping for a while.

How many phenos are there and have you seen the ones described? What do your keepers look like?
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Nope that is the whole concept of a thread on a public online community is to freely exchange thoughts and ideas. Sometimes it gets sidelined for trivial nonsense. So lets get back to business.

Genetics of Sunshine Daydream. Bubbashine vs Appalachia. Bubbashine is Original Bubba Kush or pre 92 Bubba Kush vs DJ Shorts Blue Moonshine ( f3 or f4 generation can not remember exactly of Temple Flo and HTAF ). Appalachia is a creation of High and Lonesome using Cecil's Green Crack vs JJ NYC BX of Tres Dawg.

Contrary to popular belief the cross is not going to be 25% of the offspring that would resemble the mother cut, 50% of the offspring is a homogeneous expression of both mother and father expressions, and 25% of progeny would resemble father. The actual numbers would be quite different if you apply all of Mendel's laws of genetics and grew out humongous populations. A great example of breeders that actually applies all laws and it shows in their population descriptions would be Dynasty Seeds Professor P and Gooeybreeder. Bodhi would not know because the original male was lost. The crosses all of us have been seeing since the Appy demise is a result of emergency crosses from stored male pollen and/or back up clones of the original father I am assuming. So even the actual creator would have an arduous if not an impossible one to answer your query. The biggest factor that your answer will remain an enigma would be the fact that no one knows the exact genetic makeup of Original Bubba Kush it is all speculation. Probably previous sentence could apply to Green Crack as well as Tres Dawg.

Me personally still having fun going through my wares of that particular strain. I have been only getting superb stallions and lackluster ones. The female I will be looking for is the elusive Buttercut pheno if I am meant to encounter it in my garden. Not sure if I helped you but I tried best of luck with your search.
 
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BadInfluence

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littlegiant said:
I got 2 pheno's of SSDD. There maybe more too. 1 looked exactly like the pic on choice. Tight kushy nugs, skinny sturdy stems and frosty as hell. The other pheno was a little taller, thicker stems and buds seemed to be on the fluffy side. Smelled a lot more berry then the first. Buds were a bit larger too and almost as frosty but in the end they were all fairly dense and frosty on both plants.
At first I thought the nugs were gonna be small, but then they started to fill out really nice and you will end up with some nugs with some weight. I let mine go 11 weeks, and im glad I did.
Good thing you kept cuttings of both plants cuz I sure wish I did. I did keep the super frosty skinny one going though. Both keepers in my opinion. Smoking some at the moment too.
You will not be disappointed dude. If it lasts that long for you,3-4 weeks in jars and you will be in heaven.:peace:
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That sounds a little bit like our 2 phenos. I hope the skinny one puts on some weight soon. Right now it doesn't look like much but it is for sure one of the frostiest plants in our garden. The one with the big buds looks like a really good yield but maybe i was just lucky with the fim. It has a nice main bud and lots of very long side branches. The buds on these branches are bigger than main buds on other plants we've grown.

undercovergrow said:
so far i've seen four and they all had similar structure in growth patterns: one blueberry muffin pheno; two phenos that produce nice heavy, fat buds, with one of them that doesn't have much smell (to me); and, another thin bud that seems slightly hairier and seems to take a bit longer to ripen than the other phenos. harvest after 9-10 weeks of flower, but i've gone 11 weeks on them too. and i'm not catching any root beer and bazooka joe chewing gum on any but i'll check. ;-):cool:

i too am noticing that this thinner pheno seems to be covered in a lot more sugar than the other one growing right now (the lesser smelling pheno). i haven't smoked this last pheno yet but when i do, i'll update this for you, but so far, my favorites are the blueberry muffin pheno and the one heavy bud pheno that has a nice blueberry smell. both have been great smoke...well, even the third pheno that doesn't have a lot of smell, it is nice smoke, but i prefer the other two.

as a newbie, to my untrained eye, the thin pheno seems to look a lot like the picture Bodhi used in his SSDD description as it starts to fatten up. but what do i know? (:

:peace:
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Seriously, root beer and bazooka joe but you have to touch the plant and get your fingers sticky. The plant itself doesn't really have a strong smell.


calicat said:
Nope that is the whole concept of a thread on a public online community is to freely exchange thoughts and ideas. Sometimes it gets sidelined for trivial nonsense. So lets get back to business.

Genetics of Sunshine Daydream. Bubbashine vs Appalachia. Bubbashine is Original Bubba Kush or pre 92 Bubba Kush vs DJ Shorts Blue Moonshine ( f3 or f4 generation can not remember exactly of Temple Flo and HTAF ). Appalachia is a creation of High and Lonesome using Cecil's Green Crack vs JJ NYC BX of Tres Dawg.

Contrary to popular belief the cross is not going to be 25% of the offspring that would resemble the mother cut, 50% of the offspring is a homogeneous expression of both mother and father expressions, and 25% of progeny would resemble father. The actual numbers would be quite different if you apply all of Mendel's laws of genetics and grew out humongous populations. A great example of breeders that actually applies all laws and it shows in their population descriptions would be Dynasty Seeds Professor P and Gooeybreeder. Bodhi would not know because the original male was lost. The crosses all of us have been seeing since the Appy demise is a result of emergency crosses from stored male pollen and/or back up clones of the original father I am assuming. So even the actual creator would have an arduous if not an impossible one to answer your query. The biggest factor that your answer will remain an enigma would be the fact that no one knows the exact genetic makeup of Original Bubba Kush it is all speculation. Probably previous sentence could apply to Green Crack as well as Tres Dawg.

Me personally still having fun going through my wares of that particular strain. I have been only getting superb stallions and lackluster ones. The female I will be looking for is the elusive Buttercut pheno if I am meant to encounter it in my garden. Not sure if I helped you but I tried best of luck with your search.
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Wow that's a lot of background info there but since i don't know any of the parents in particular i wasn't really looking for a pheno that would be close to one of the parents. Just checking what people have grown and liked.
And you mentioned backup clones of the Appalachia male. Wouldn't that be as good as the original? I thought the appy crosses which are still available came from frozen pollen?

There are also 2 Dream lotus, 1 Tigers milk and one Tranquil Elephantizer remix V2 in that grow which are all from clones from previous grows. All 3 are really nice smokes but the Tigers milk is my favorite.
 
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BadInfluence

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And by the way... the original Tranquil Elephantizer was Snow Lotus x G13/88HP and the Remix had the parents changed so Snow Lotus was the father. I just can't find any info on the Remix v2. Is this the Snow Lotus mom again like in the original?
 
calicat

calicat

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To Badinfluence... If that is a true scenario then in theory yes. But the question arises if there were back up clones, were those said clones healthy. Remember the statement I mentioned in regard to the Appy is speculation. I am not his tester nor am I his friend. I am just a satisfied customer that has a huge collection of his gear. Yes I agree with you all these crosses coming out after the death of the original Appy male has been pollen crosses. I have never seen an actual statement from B but I believe that would be a safe assumption wouldn't you agree :-) .
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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BadInfluence said:
And by the way... the original Tranquil Elephantizer was Snow Lotus x G13/88HP and the Remix had the parents changed so Snow Lotus was the father. I just can't find any info on the Remix v2. Is this the Snow Lotus mom again like in the original?
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The V2 Remix is with the DeadlyG poppa far as I recall
 
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BadInfluence

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BadInfluence said:
And by the way... the original Tranquil Elephantizer was Snow Lotus x G13/88HP and the Remix had the parents changed so Snow Lotus was the father. I just can't find any info on the Remix v2. Is this the Snow Lotus mom again like in the original?
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Yeah great idea to actually look at the bag and not just the internet. Mine says Deadly G x Snow Lotus, too. :dunce:
 
COGrown

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Hope no one going to the cup this year expected to get any free samples for their ticket price....

http://www.thecannabist.co/2015/04/14/marijuana-samples-cannabis-cup-denver/33153/

Makes sense, though, last year there was a bunch of friction between the shops and companies giving away samples/dabs and the shops just selling them. And, as always seems to be the case now that cannabis is a business here, the assholes won.
It doesn't look like I'll be going this year unless I either get a comp ticket through my work or end up helping at a booth, but if any of you decent folk are going to be in town you should hit me up. Its certainly legal to share your own supply.

*and that te:remix info is just to the best of my understanding, it is totally possible it could have been the snow lotus male with a deadly g f3 female, but it is my understanding the cross was made with the deadly g f3 male, as it coincided with the testing/release of the other deadly g male hybrids.
 
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