Blueberry, simpleleaf's grow 3

simpleleaf

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I'll be blooming 3 Blueberries, the seeds were from Garden of Green via Seedsman. My prior attempt of blooming Blueberry resulted in rubber-like branches at about 7 weeks, so I picked it early.

I recently moved a mature and healthy Blueberry into the bloom tent, which is in a cold garage of 45°F night temps, and cut her back to about half height. She was moved into the tent when Green Crack was harvested, roughly two weeks ago. She is not happy. Blueberry may be more sensitive to cold than Green Crack:

Blueberry in bloom tent, too cold is my guess. Feb 12 2019.jpg

I may have to swap bloom and veg areas. My veg area is a closet in the house, which is warmer. If I do that, I have to swap lights, blooming requires more light.

Here's Blue Dream at about 2 weeks into her attempted reversion.

Blue Dream attempted reversion Feb 12 2019.jpg

She's lengthened out her sugar leaves, but they're staying mostly purple color. She needs to be flushed. I'm hoping to get to that tomorrow. Today I finished up my potting mix sanitation and pH adjustment.

I've been using a hot water soak to kill insects in the potting mix. In the next pic, there's a little more than 1.5 cubic feet of potting mix placed first in a plastic drum, then about 3 gallons of boiling water was added, and the rest of the water volume is from my hot water faucet which can be adjusted to give me 150°F water. The mix was 149°F when I was done filling it to about 2 to 3 times the soil volume.

sanitizing potting mix with hot water.jpg

I added some sulfuric acid, stirred with a long iron pipe, took a sample, cooled it, found it was too high, so added more acid. By the fifth reading I got 6.8, and I decided that was good enough.

checking potting mix pH.jpg

I left it outside over night, and by morning, the water temp was below 60°F, I warmed a sample to 70°F, the pH was still 6.8. I had expected a little rise.

sanitizer drum with potting mix, soaking feb 12 2019.jpg


I put fiberglass windowscreen over a homemade kitty-litter sifter, 1/4" hardware cloth framed with 2x4s. Then I decanted the liquid and floating perlite off, before turning the drum upside down to allow the potting mix to drain. There was a mild sulfur odor in the poured off liquid.

draining drum of potting mix feb 12 2019.jpg

Then I put it in pots (#7) to continue draining, and covered them. I'm not sure I made quite enough.

draining soaked potting mix a day later, smells of sulfur.jpg

If I need more, I'll make a little more. Simple enough, the tedious part is getting the pH to a desired value without over acidifying it.

I've had 2 Blueberry clones in the vegetative room, I flushed them a day or two ago with an initial 7.6 pH runoff. They're now getting a different fertilizer mix which won't alkalize the grow mix as much. While this next photo is rather poor, it does show one of the yellowed leaves.

blueberry vegetative post flush feb 12 2019 nitrogen iron sulfur deficiency leaf.jpg

That symptom should be nitrogen, manganese, or iron deficiencies, and my guess is the latter. That's why I flushed, the drain pH rose too high and that probably caused problems with iron lockout. These two Blueberries also developed the beginnings of generalized yellowing, top and bottom, which reversed after the flush. I'm going to be watching the drain pH more closely.
 

simpleleaf

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Thanks diggs99! I need luck with this strain!

I got them uppotted to #7 pots. The Blueberry on the right is a clone of the one on the left, it's much younger and smaller. I still have one more in the veg closet, I may bring it to this bloom, haven't decided yet. There is room for one more #7 pot.

I snipped the taller plant on the left again yesterday, removed another 4 inches or so, cleaned up dead branches at the bottom, etc. I may clip it back one or more times, I want the two plants to be about the same height. The right plant hasn't branched out as much, and needs some top trimming for that reason. We had frost last night, a little ice on the windshield outside, but the plants look okay so far. Per the 10-day forecast, we should have some night warming in about a week with average temperatures rising as we move toward spring.

Grow 3 Blueberry just uppotted to #7s Feb 19 2019.jpg


This morning I had a little drainage in the drip pan of the plant on the right, so took its pH and it's still too high at 7.7. The plan is to keep adding relatively more ammonium to the fertilizer water until I find a desired pot-drainage pH. For the time being, I want them to grow vegetatively for at least a couple more weeks, so staying on 6 hours of darkness per 24 hours.
 
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simpleleaf

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So, I guess it's about 3 months later, I've been lazy and just keeping the plants fertilized, and letting them grow larger. I had one surgery, and have another coming up, so plants have not been my primary concern.

I wanted the canopy to fill in across so the branches would be somewhat self supporting, so I chopped them back pretty severely a month and a half ago.

April 20, I had just cut them back.
blueberry 4.20.2019 in bloom tent at 18 daylight hours.jpg
Oh, the above photo is about when I figured out why I was having yellowing leaves. My EC was too low (fertilizer was too diluted).

May 23, 2019
blueberry 5.23.2019 in bloom tent at 18 daylight hours.smaller.jpg
They started growing faster when it warmed up a few weeks ago, I probably turned off the pot heaters a little early in the season. About a week ago, I increased from 6 to 10 hours of darkness. 2 days ago, they got their first bloom formula, and responded, so I thought I'd snap a pic, from today:
blueberry 6.4.2019 in bloom tent at 14 daylight hours.smaller.jpg

I'm not yet sure if I'll clean them up, and nip some of the lower bud growths, or just let them bloom like this.

Thick stem:
blueberry trunk thickness 6.4.2019.jpg
 
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simpleleaf

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I have plenty of personal smoke from my last harvest, so getting to bloom quickly isn't high on my priority list. A 4'x2' tent with a separate vegetative room makes more buds than I thought it would, a smaller 2'x2' would possibly have been sufficient for my personal needs.

This entire batch has been filled with problems relating to my illness and not staying on top of them, so this particular grow journal is more like what not to do! I let the plants get too tall before I switched to bloom, duh, so this last Sunday the 14th, week 3 of bloom, I decided to revert, chop them back one more time, and start bloom again once I have new growth. I feel like it's another duh or a double duh. I was hoping it wouldn't take more than a week or two to revert under 0 hrs darkness per day, but that remains to be seen. This revert will intersect calendar wise with my second surgery, so I hope my partner with instructions can keep them alive while I'm away.

Another factor was involved, several branches died of some kind of wilt (didn't take pic, sorry). At bloom initiation 3 weeks ago I switched the fertilizer formula to a high MKP mix, so I'm wondering if this strain is sensitive to it. In my first grow of this same strain, the entire plant died about 7 weeks into bloom (IIRC). Symptoms were reminiscent of verticillium wilt, and the fertilizer formula was similar. This time the damage was limited to several branches.

I decided this morning to cut them back another 6" (minus the foot and a half I cut last Sunday) and flush them with water and a little sulfuric acid to about 6.0 pH, to try to get some percent of that fertilizer which they may not like out of the potting mix. So, here they are, all cut back to start over again.

blueberry 7.19.2019 in bloom tent at 24 daylight hours.smaller.jpg

When they show vegetative growth and short grow tips again, I'll switch back to bloom hours, and only use vegetative formula throughout to see if that fixes the dying-wilt issue. I have 1 more blueberry clone in the veg room, but I'm not sure I'm gonna bloom any more of this particular strain, while it tastes awesome, what I consider a classic flavor and a good high, it makes me too hungry.
 
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simpleleaf

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Blueberry at 6 weeks of bloom.

blueberry 5.23.2019 in bloom tent at 6 weeks.smaller.jpg
There are some thumb-size buds. Currently, it has some red hairs, and the trichomes are still clear. I'm going to keep going for a week or few more.

I made a mistake when mixing my last batch of 5 gallons of fertilizer, some of the distress you are seeing is probably K excess. I lost 1 month cutting back the last time. I found out that this strain likes the potting mix wetter than other strains I've grown, and the problem with branches dying seems to be from too much dryness. So, then I overshot on the watering frequency, and watered too frequently.
 
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