Blueberry cheesecake

Chip_pz

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Ok I have 3 blueberry cheesecake. In promix bh soil right now under a blue 125w cheapo LED since feb 3. Wondering what’s going on here? Been watering with strait tap water. Only when the cup feels like air. Room temp stays around 75 and humidity anywhere from 50-60%.
 

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Capt. Trips

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I don't have an answer for you, but I think you'll have better luck getting one from someone if you post pictures without the purple light.
 

Blitz35

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Picture is hard to see with lights on..looks like something on the leaves? Also, water straight from the tap, in pro-mix will not lead to good results..tap water, naturally in most cases, has a ph between 7.5-8 or more!
 

Joint Monster

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Hard to tell with the Blurplesss ;) . They could just be hungry, but get some shots without them. If they're a month old, still in party cups and only getting tap water, I'm going to guess hungry.

And they are a month old, you can probably transplant them into larger pots... in which case your new soil should keep them full for a little bit and you won't need to feed as much right away.

Also, If you are waiting until the cup feels like nothing, then you might be letting them dry out a little to much in between waterings.

If your PH is out of whack it can cause all sorts of other issues, so make sure you have that under control to! You can buy a really cheap pen for $30-40 or even test strips for $10. I would recommend spending a little extra and buying something good one time like Blue Lab or Hanna.
 

Tim1987

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Picture is hard to see with lights on..looks like something on the leaves? Also, water straight from the tap, in pro-mix will not lead to good results..tap water, naturally in most cases, has a ph between 7.5-8 or more!
Agreed. Sound advice for any hydro.
Check your runoff....
Next time you feed, adjust your solutions ph, like people here have suggested. And then check your runoff. I do this every single feed without fail. Its all about consistency.
 
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Chip_pz

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The thing is, you can see the color difference in the blue light but not so much inder normal color light. And my tap water ranges between 6.5 and 7. I’ll check the run off tho haven’t thought of that
 

Tim1987

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The thing is, you can see the color difference in the blue light but not so much inder normal color light. And my tap water ranges between 6.5 and 7. I’ll check the run off tho haven’t thought of that
I think when you check youll be quite surprised.
Good luck.
 

PetFlora

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ASAP replace that crap blue light and get a primarily white light panel

First: plant roots need some red light and green. Studies done showing the improvement

BBCC is awesome
 

Blitz35

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ASAP replace that crap blue light and get a primarily white light panel

First: plant roots need some red light and green. Studies done showing the improvement

BBCC is awesome
Plant roots dont need or want any light..they want darkness! As for green light, the plant does not need it and it reflects most all of it, hence why we have green vegetation. Even yellow light is absorbed minimally. Plants predominantly care for the 'reds' and 'blues'. Not strictly just blue like 6500K, but, the whole 'blue' spectrum, same with the red side.
 

Chip_pz

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I think I’m going to just transplant into my veg pots with some home made super soil and see how it goes and I’ll flip the other side of my light too see how they respond.
 

Tim1987

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I think I’m going to just transplant into my veg pots with some home made super soil and see how it goes and I’ll flip the other side of my light too see how they respond.
If you do go the supersoil route, make sure everything is completely brown, and composted.
No bat guano, manure, dynamic lifter, or any green shit like that. Besides burning the shit out of a plant that size, because the green fertilizer's so fresh bacteria break the material down, and release gasses like carbon monoxide and co2, while it ferments. This heats the medium and turns anaerobic real fasr indoors, and will smell like poo.
Id say plant it into some potting mix or quality compost. Then transplant into supersoil when its larger. You're going to need probably double the pot space to get the same yield as DTW. Unless you have really good aeration / drainage in your soil. Id bare that in mind.
 

Chip_pz

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My soil has been sitting for quite a while now. Started mixing it when I started my first grow last June. I transplanted the weakest one to the soil and mixed it with some promix to weaken it some. The one I transplanted seems to love it. Everything turning back an even green. So now I’ll just do the same thing with the other 2. I also flipped the red side of my panel on so now I have a full spectrum. Looking at about 300w actual
 

PetFlora

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Plant roots dont need or want any light..they want darkness! As for green light, the plant does not need it and it reflects most all of it, hence why we have green vegetation. Even yellow light is absorbed minimally. Plants predominantly care for the 'reds' and 'blues'. Not strictly just blue like 6500K, but, the whole 'blue' spectrum, same with the red side.
Wow. You are so misinformed. The worst part is your passing this false information on.

The red light spectrum (which is absorbed by the leafs) feeds root development

As to the BS about green light:many studies have discredited that crap pseudo science years ago. Heliospectra (a top nme in leds) had a page title The Forgotten spectrum. Sadly it's missing from their website update or I would have provided the link
 

Tim1987

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Wow. You are so misinformed. The worst part is your passing this false information on.

The red light spectrum (which is absorbed by the leafs) feeds root development

As to the BS about green light:many studies have discredited that crap pseudo science years ago. Heliospectra (a top nme in leds) had a page title The Forgotten spectrum. Sadly it's missing from their website update or I would have provided the link
Lol :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:
 

Tim1987

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Im sorry but, i was only really having a lol at the first 5 words you chose to use in your post.
Imho I think its being quite ignorant. You may as well say that he doest know wtf he is on about and has no experience with the brands and equipment he mentions, or used
Wow. You are so misinformed. The worst part is your passing this false information on.

The red light spectrum (which is absorbed by the leafs) feeds root development

As to the BS about green light:many studies have discredited that crap pseudo science years ago. Heliospectra (a top nme in leds) had a page title The Forgotten spectrum. Sadly it's missing from their website update or I would have provided the link
.
Statements like this are very ignorant imho
I know it's hard to unlearn information that you accepted as truth, but the real truth will set you free

https://www.heliospectra.com/articles/the-forgotten-spectrum-and-importance-of-green-light-for-crop-quality/
You should give people your contructive critism, and explain WHY.
Instead of ranting, and raving, then giving them a link to a website to support your insults. Its the kind of thing a politician would say and do, when they're losing a debate on national tv. Or a spoilt child that cant get what they want from their parent, so start chucking a tantrum in the supermarket.
:roll:
Have respect for others, and give your constructive answer, with your own.
Can we get along? :hug::hug:
Im sure you are a nice person.
Peace.
 

Tim1987

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My soil has been sitting for quite a while now. Started mixing it when I started my first grow last June. I transplanted the weakest one to the soil and mixed it with some promix to weaken it some. The one I transplanted seems to love it. Everything turning back an even green. So now I’ll just do the same thing with the other 2. I also flipped the red side of my panel on so now I have a full spectrum. Looking at about 300w actual
Put some in your hands, and give it a good smell.
If it still smells a little "shitty", id compost it a little longer.
If it smells like raw earth, compost and humus, you should be golden.
 

Blitz35

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Wow. You are so misinformed. The worst part is your passing this false information on.

The red light spectrum (which is absorbed by the leafs) feeds root development

As to the BS about green light:many studies have discredited that crap pseudo science years ago. Heliospectra (a top nme in leds) had a page title The Forgotten spectrum. Sadly it's missing from their website update or I would have provided the link
LOL! red light feeds root development??? What does that mean? Everything a plant gets, feeds 'root development'..that does not mean the roots themselves need to get light shined on them! Absorption of red or far-red light causes a massive change to the shape of the chromophore, altering the conformation and activity of the phytochrome protein to which it is bound. Pfr is the physiologically-active form of the protein; exposure to red light yields physiological activity in the plant.
As for plants 'needing' green light, no they don't need it..they use a very small fraction of it, but most is not needed at all..here is a research paper from michigan state university...
One potential advantage of including green in a light spectrum is to reduce eye strain of employees. Under monochromatic, or sometimes two colors of light such as blue and red, plants may not appear their typical color, which could make noticing nutritional, disease or insect pest issues difficult. Another potential advantage of green light is that it can penetrate a canopy better than other wavebands of light. It’s possible that with better canopy penetration, lower leaves will continue to photosynthesize, leading to less loss of the lower leaves.

You can go ahead and pass along a light salesmen's pitch as the truth..i will believe scientific research papers instead! I've also read on ebay, about the description for a mars 300 and how they market it..equal to a 250 watt hps? Sure lol..great to be educated by salesmen..i feel sorry for you buddy! Good luck, im not wasting my time replying to an overgrown, underdeveloped child! Maybe your roots need more red light? lol
 

PetFlora

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Im sorry but, i was only really having a lol at the first 5 words you chose to use in your post.
Imho I think its being quite ignorant. You may as well say that he doest know wtf he is on about and has no experience with the brands and equipment he mentions, or used


.
Statements like this are very ignorant imho


You should give people your contructive critism, and explain WHY.
Instead of ranting, and raving, then giving them a link to a website to support your insults. Its the kind of thing a politician would say and do, when they're losing a debate on national tv. Or a spoilt child that cant get what they want from their parent, so start chucking a tantrum in the supermarket.
:roll:
Have respect for others, and give your constructive answer, with your own.
Can we get along? :hug::hug:
Im sure you are a nice person.
Peace.
Did you not first read his emphatic comments? That kind of arrogant stupidity requires a good slap in the face
 

Fractured but whole

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LOL! red light feeds root development??? What does that mean? Everything a plant gets, feeds 'root development'..that does not mean the roots themselves need to get light shined on them! Absorption of red or far-red light causes a massive change to the shape of the chromophore, altering the conformation and activity of the phytochrome protein to which it is bound. Pfr is the physiologically-active form of the protein; exposure to red light yields physiological activity in the plant.
As for plants 'needing' green light, no they don't need it..they use a very small fraction of it, but most is not needed at all..here is a research paper from michigan state university...
One potential advantage of including green in a light spectrum is to reduce eye strain of employees. Under monochromatic, or sometimes two colors of light such as blue and red, plants may not appear their typical color, which could make noticing nutritional, disease or insect pest issues difficult. Another potential advantage of green light is that it can penetrate a canopy better than other wavebands of light. It’s possible that with better canopy penetration, lower leaves will continue to photosynthesize, leading to less loss of the lower leaves.

You can go ahead and pass along a light salesmen's pitch as the truth..i will believe scientific research papers instead! I've also read on ebay, about the description for a mars 300 and how they market it..equal to a 250 watt hps? Sure lol..great to be educated by salesmen..i feel sorry for you buddy! Good luck, im not wasting my time replying to an overgrown, underdeveloped child! Maybe your roots need more red light? lol
just have a look at the shit plants he grows, then you won't bother arguing with him.
 
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