Black magic blunts?

Has anyone tried a black magic blunt? I am not even sure if that is the common name, its half cannabis half salvia divinorum. The salvia leaf, not the concentrate.

Back before salvia was outlawed, I would order it online. The leaf came dried and I would grind and mix it in with my blunts.

The result was an extremely euphoric high. The cannabis gives a head high and the salvia literally gave me the feeling of flying hundreds of miles an hour backwards while still in my chair. Its so intense it rendered me unable to move for a moment.

Salvia hits me on the exhale, much like people report with cocaine (never did yayo, myself). I realy enjoy salvia and would like to start growing it. Like a plant or two in with my cannabis.

I hear there is a rare Hawaiin strain of salvia that is much more potent. Salvia Luna, suppose to have 20% more of the active chemical in it.

I have never tried the concentrate myself. I see why it has given salvia a bad reputation with the general public. People use it as a party drug and not responsibly.

My friend smoked the concentrate and she fell down laughing and then screaming. Her speech went from slurred to not remotely understandable. It was a very scary experience for us both lol. She could have definately been taken advantage of if I wasn't a true gentlemen.

When she came to she claimed her arms grew into vines before she lost all sense of reality and was in a dream like state. She said it felt like hours but was around 3 mins.

I would get mild hallucinations on top of the rush when smoking the leaf alone. Walls moving and melting at the edges, a lot of pink hues on everything.

What is your experience with Salvia? People claim to visit other dimensions and talk to gods. I hear the Aztecs claimed it did the same.

Buy some x20 and find out . Out of body experiences for sure. The stuff is still legal in my state so I just buy it off of salviadragon. I'm more comfortable smoking it alone personally, it's easier for me to get as calm as possible before taking my hit. I've tried smoking extract and leaves mixed with weed in joints but it's really nothing compared to a good bong hit, the first time I ever broke through I put kief on top of the extract

I read the Aztecs would roll a leaf under their tongue and let it sit until they hallucinated. Not sure if the leaf was dry or fresh or how they got the leaf out of their mouth to stop hallucinating or choking lol.

Do you remember most of your experiences? Ever talk to other worldly beings? Does time really move slow like they say?

I tried dosing sublingually with rehydrated leaves but didn't really do anything. I think that's best done with fresh leaves. For me it's like trying to remember a dream that I can't, only remember certain things, although while it's happening I feel like it's so clear and memorable it just seems like most of it leaves me when it's over with. The first time i broke through the first thing I remember was ducking under like a circus colored curtain where there were people talking inside, like a crowd talking and when I tried to talk I got sucked out and sent spinning like a slot machine reel but instead of the normal slot machine pictures it was like each square was another alternate reality, with a clear image of the room I was tripping in on each one, on a separate trip that same thing happened but it was a horizontal grid rather then a vertical spinning thing and I got sucked into one where I was laying on the ground and my 2 good friends were there screaming my name trying to pick me up (I was alone in "reality"). I've seen myself as my desk fully clothed but still the shape of a desk, complete nothingness laying on my bed with huge letters making out a massive paragraph unable to comprehend it. A river of unfamiliar but cookie cutter like faces flowing erratically. I remember thinking as if I were a cartoon character in a tv show who finally realized he was a cartoon character in a tv show and was able to travel between each channel haha. I can go on all day trying to explain it, I just can't. The stuff is bizarre, and usually leaves me in shock.

Im almost certain salvia takes you were souls reborn. The void. I havr a special place for salvia. Lots of amazing adventures. Slipping throighw the fabric of reality. 80x was where its at. One bong rip and before you exhale blasted off into hyperspace. The one trip i remember vividly is sitting at my desk. And i zoom way out. Like my vision field is now a distant picture surrounded by emptyness. Then as im watching i see other people. Each with there own zoomed out room, like a small box. Stings connect the viewers to their respective boxes of vision. Then all these boxes form what can only be described as a transformer. Like a giant robot which is cruising around. I remeber thinking everyone watching this with me must be all the people tripping on salvia around planet esrthw at this very moment. There is a grest gravitational pull downward. Like being flushed down a toilet. Swirling confusion of melting colors and geometry never before seen. Music starts saying the most EPIC lyrics about some grand plan or deep connection to something other. Afterwards listening to the same song it has none of the lyrics i heard. Wierd stuff. Should always have a sitter so you dont go through a wall

I hear a lot of people see wheels and objects holding different dimensions. Maybe in the recesses of the human mind we have a knowledge of other dimensions. I talked with a guy from youtube and he told me something very similar. He said he seen time and dimensions on this huge wheel and it was being pushed by a large being who told him to go back to where he came.

I plan on picking a salvia divinorum plant up within the next couple months. I read they are clone only because of rare seed production. Going to get the salvia luna I keep hearing about if possible. Right now my funds and efforts being used on my cannabis.

I hear horror stories of people developing depression and suicide because they take the visions too seriously and want to leave this life because another dimension is waiting. So please stay on this earth as long as you can because there are no sure things in this life or the next lol.

It is definitely different from person to person. My brother has only smoked it once, and he said that the floor opened up and he saw hell and all of his family being sucked into it. I'm sure that trip contributed to his delusions that someone is out to get him and his family.

I have sleep paralyses quite often. I am unable to move but see people around the room while I am sleeping. Some attack me very violently. The dreams are the same surroundings as when I went to bed and I do not realise I am dreaming. Its terrifying lol. Many times my woman has woke me up from these attacks because I am screaming In my sleep lol.

They happen a lot less now that I am older, but I also remember less dreams too. Its probably the reason I find dreams and the mind such an attractive mystery.

And thats not even drug induced lol. Might be a little schizo but atleast I only see them when I am asleep. My sybling is a paranoid schizophrenic and they go through hell even with medication and therapy.

Have you tried any herbs that effect dreams along with salvia? Some herbs give you lucid dreams where you have full control of your actions. That being said, it could have negative side effects if the bad hallucinations are intensified.

Marijuana Mercenary said:

I have sleep paralyses quite often. I am unable to move but see people around the room while I am sleeping. Some attack me very violently. The dreams are the same surroundings as when I went to bed and I do not realise I am dreaming. Its terrifying lol. Many times my woman has woke me up from these attacks because I am screaming In my sleep lol.

They happen a lot less now that I am older, but I also remember less dreams too. Its probably the reason I find dreams and the mind such an attractive mystery.

And thats not even drug induced lol. Might be a little schizo but atleast I only see them when I am asleep. My sybling is a paranoid schizophrenic and they go through hell even with medication and therapy.

Have you tried any herbs that effect dreams along with salvia? Some herbs give you lucid dreams where you have full control of your actions. That being said, it could have negative side effects if the bad hallucinations are intensified.

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One of my good friends goes and went through the same sleep paralysis and hallucinations. And his brother was paranoid schizophrenic. Ive seen first hand the terror he went through. I feel for you friend. Glad they let up now! He used to tell me demons where holding down every part of his body and laughing like it was some comsic joke. Repeated night sfter nighty. Phew scarery.

Wild lettuce, dream herb, damidagga, kinnikkinnik I've tried those herbs in combo with 25x and 20x salvia. I never really tripped as far as you guys, just had the feeling like I was melting a bit

hmm,

I wonder if the herbs supressed it. That melting seems to be the first step of the salvia high. I haven't gotten deep into a trip yet either, but I have not done the concentrate.

I hear a high temp flame is needed to activate the chemical component.

Yeah I don't think I did the high temp part right as just a little melting into the couch was all I experienced. I did have someone collapse into the chair and fall asleep for 1-2 minutes and wake up and say
Oh that's... Weird what the fuck happened

The most mild effects I've had off salvia extract were still kind of extreme, the very first time I smoked it I started uncontrollably laughing I got this knot feeling in my throat which usually happens and made me involuntary laugh, I just felt obligated to laugh but it still felt and sounded like genuine laughter no matter how hard I tried to stop. I started drooling and got cramps in my face and hands, the only thing I remember seeing was something dripping, which was probably my brain trying to show me that i was drooling or something . I remember trying to grab the thing dripping down with my cramped hands that were so cramped that it looked like I was pretending to have crab claws, Then I remember just being pushed over, laying on the ground feeling like I was being crushed, like someone turned up the gravity, or I was under a giant boot. I called out for help because I was being crushed, friends were laughin their faces off.

This was just relatively small hit out of a normal spoon pipe, I think I'm just particularly sensitive to it.

Holy shit that sounds scary.

Yeah lol, one of my friends recorded it on his phone and when I watched it I had the look of complete terror and confusion on my face after I stopped laughing

The one sensation that my friends and I all agree on is that exact same feeling you described. Like all of a sudden you realize there's an elephant sitting on you, but you don't remember for how long because you suddenly just noticed

Marijuana Mercenary said:

I have sleep paralyses quite often. I am unable to move but see people around the room while I am sleeping. Some attack me very violently. The dreams are the same surroundings as when I went to bed and I do not realise I am dreaming. Its terrifying lol. Many times my woman has woke me up from these attacks because I am screaming In my sleep lol.

They happen a lot less now that I am older, but I also remember less dreams too. Its probably the reason I find dreams and the mind such an attractive mystery.

And thats not even drug induced lol. Might be a little schizo but atleast I only see them when I am asleep. My sybling is a paranoid schizophrenic and they go through hell even with medication and therapy.

Have you tried any herbs that effect dreams along with salvia? Some herbs give you lucid dreams where you have full control of your actions. That being said, it could have negative side effects if the bad hallucinations are intensified.

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green_machine_two9er said:

One of my good friends goes and went through the same sleep paralysis and hallucinations. And his brother was paranoid schizophrenic. Ive seen first hand the terror he went through. I feel for you friend. Glad they let up now! He used to tell me demons where holding down every part of his body and laughing like it was some comsic joke. Repeated night sfter nighty. Phew scarery.

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I used to go through that often as a child. Only had 3 memorable episodes in the 7.5 years. Had one last tuesday night. Totally unexpected. Very similar to what green machine described. Deep sleep. Dreamlike state. Thought I was totally awake. Felt the force of like something pushing me down. HARD. Started at my feet. Then quickly and smoothly went up my legs. Woke up literally. Screaming "Mom! Mom!". Terrified. It quickly went away. I was also dreaming of my mother right before.
I called my mother the next morning. She said it was probably due to all the stress that I've been going through lately.
When I was a child (around 3). I used to get out my crib (pen). In a daze. And freak out my older brothers. Saying stuff like. "The ghost is back." or "The face...". I've also had the dark figures and you literally can't call out or move. I used to have to totally just relax. Then I could break out of it. Sleep paralysis can be very scary at times.

I wonder if the force that is felt is the chemical your body produces to keep you knocked out and paralysed for rest. In the dream we may interpret is as a force holding us.

This would explain the inability to move. Its like sleep walking with a paralysed body. That is the most terrifying part if the dreams, not being able to move while being attacked.