bit depressed cause i suck at this

buddwasher

buddwasher

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things could be worst i guess :
am using x2 600w MH - clay ball and rockwool - canna nutes
as u can see from my pics - my room is too humid - see moisture dripping off mylar in far corner away from plants
also in this corner - blue mold been growing - have just wiped down with bleech
plants grouth has slowed but no real issues yet!!
some droppy leaves so i have cut watering down to x3 per day
my water pipes near my grow are frozen so have not changed resy for over 2 weeks - just top ups, just found out today i had left water heater on ll the time for last 24 - 48 hrs
so now i must do change - i need to lug 100L of fresh water over to my grow sight - which is far away
shit really pissed off with my catalog of errors
things like leaving lights on
leaving water heater on
knocking few branches off here and there
not preparing grow room properly (no anti fungal paint and not enough myalr) + i didnt alow enough space for grow - i have the space jsu didnt knock down a wall to allow enough grow space - now they all cramped for room
+ i have run out of cash
by right i should have killed them all already


anyway sure is nice to have somewhere to off load this shit i feeling

not had a smoke for 4 days now :( still atleast my donor mother in flower that is big and weeks ahead of rest of crop shoud be ready to crop b4 xmas

not sure yet how to flush it during final week - guess i will have to unplug from ebb and flow system and habd water - roll on xmas :D

cheers dudes
 
BSIv2.0

BSIv2.0

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If this is your 1st grow & the plants are still alive....All is not lost.

My 1st grow lasted about 2 weeks. I merk'd em by blasting the seedlings w/100% Miracle Grow house plant food. Lmao @ that.

Live/learn...I'll be happy to help where I can.

Keep your head up...You'll figure things out.

Read up
 
trichlone fiend

trichlone fiend

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...can you get a dehumidifier in there? If you were to cover the tops of your hydroton with plastic, I'm sure that will lower your humidity some.
 
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Manimal

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It's all a learning experience bud. I've been doing this for a long time and stupid mistakes still happen, just don't try to do it again. They don't look so bad and I'm confident you will get it sorted out.
 
Devildog93

Devildog93

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trichlone fiend said:
...can you get a dehumidifier in there? If you were to cover the tops of your hydroton with plastic, I'm sure that will lower your humidity some.
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That is the BIGGEST issue I see....regardless of errors you are making.......the moisture. And these errors that you are making, most likely won't be an issue on your next one. If you can recognize your problems like you have, you're on the right road.

Your 1st room looks real good in my opinion.....my first batch ever, lasted about a week and a half. Since then I moved on to easily pulling 2+ lb of cured BU-BONIC per light.
But I didn't get there overnight. Keep on trucking friend.

Good luck
 
doniawon

doniawon

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do you have a fan venting your light heat out? can you adjust the speed if you do?? maybe pull air from inside your grow space out so your humidity goes down?
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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I feel your pain, I once had a male get lose in my grow room, 300 plants full of seed, so take them down plant new ones, every grow for the next 5 I always had some seeds, WTF turns out every time I bumped a fan it release some pollen. Live and learn.....
 
buddwasher

buddwasher

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BSIv2.0 said:
If this is your 1st grow & the plants are still alive....All is not lost.
My 1st grow lasted about 2 weeks. I merk'd em by blasting the seedlings w/100% Miracle Grow house plant food. Lmao @ that.
Live/learn...I'll be happy to help where I can.
Keep your head up...You'll figure things out.

its been about 8 yrs but this is my second grow but thanx for support:D

trichlone fiend said:
...can you get a dehumidifier in there? If you were to cover the tops of your hydroton with plastic, I'm sure that will lower your humidity some.
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hi m8 i have power consumption issues but i do see a solution - get rid of electric heater - replace with gas heater (should add some CO2 too) then i can buy a dehumidifier (just have to save up some cash 1st :(
thanx for taking an interest and support dude

Manimal said:
It's all a learning experience bud. I've been doing this for a long time and stupid mistakes still happen, just don't try to do it again. They don't look so bad and I'm confident you will get it sorted out.
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yeah lol this is the stupid thing apart from the cold temps slowing growth down plants do look 90% healthy, thanx dude


doniawon said:
do you have a fan venting your light heat out? can you adjust the speed if you do?? maybe pull air from inside your grow space out so your humidity goes down?
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i am afriad my my temps last 3 weeks with lights on have been 23 deg C - lights off about 12 - 15 deg C - but on strength of your post i have set extractor fan to run 24/7 - it was only on during day time b4 - 15 mins on 15 mins off. so would u agree better to vent 24/7 even if it means a few deg C lower temps?


Devildog93 said:
That is the BIGGEST issue I see....regardless of errors you are making.......the moisture. And these errors that you are making, most likely won't be an issue on your next one. If you can recognize your problems like you have, you're on the right road.
Your 1st room looks real good in my opinion.....my first batch ever, lasted about a week and a half. Since then I moved on to easily pulling 2+ lb of cured BU-BONIC per light.
But I didn't get there overnight. Keep on trucking friend.
Good luck
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i plumbed for security from peeping neighbours over better grow sight - when i can afford to rent new place i will find a house potential for grow room 1st and formost - 8 yrs ago my 1st grow was in my spare bedroom - and it was a gr8 set up - this delapidated mobile home is not the answer - i can already see mould in the warmer months could be a killer - gotta move and sort this - just hope i can hold onto this crop to recope initial investment, thanx dude

woodsmaneh! said:
I feel your pain, I once had a male get lose in my grow room, 300 plants full of seed, so take them down plant new ones, every grow for the next 5 I always had some seeds, WTF turns out every time I bumped a fan it release some pollen. Live and learn.....
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omg 300 full of seeds - its hearing things like this that makes me feel better :D lol - i am wary of hermys as i have stressed these girls to hell nd back already

Wordz said:
h2o2 is the best product for killing mold
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ty dude good advice already looked it up and will get onto it asap


cheers again everyone for your help and support

can i give u guys + rep for helping out as i only been using RIU for few months
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Tahmi.Guhnn

Tahmi.Guhnn

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buddwasher said:
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things could be worst i guess :
am using x2 600w MH - clay ball and rockwool - canna nutes
as u can see from my pics - my room is too humid - see moisture dripping off mylar in far corner away from plants
also in this corner - blue mold been growing - have just wiped down with bleech
plants grouth has slowed but no real issues yet!!
some droppy leaves so i have cut watering down to x3 per day
my water pipes near my grow are frozen so have not changed resy for over 2 weeks - just top ups, just found out today i had left water heater on ll the time for last 24 - 48 hrs
so now i must do change - i need to lug 100L of fresh water over to my grow sight - which is far away
shit really pissed off with my catalog of errors
things like leaving lights on
leaving water heater on
knocking few branches off here and there
not preparing grow room properly (no anti fungal paint and not enough myalr) + i didnt alow enough space for grow - i have the space jsu didnt knock down a wall to allow enough grow space - now they all cramped for room
+ i have run out of cash
by right i should have killed them all already


anyway sure is nice to have somewhere to off load this shit i feeling

not had a smoke for 4 days now :( still atleast my donor mother in flower that is big and weeks ahead of rest of crop shoud be ready to crop b4 xmas

not sure yet how to flush it during final week - guess i will have to unplug from ebb and flow system and habd water - roll on xmas :D

cheers dudes
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are you really watering your plants three times a day? and bleach isn't good to kill mold. especiall on drywall. beach contains water which the mold uses to grow so if you wipe it down and dont dry it out your pretty much not doing anything to it. the mold you see growing ON the wall is just the sexual spores. the actual body of the mold is embedded in the drywall so when you wipe down the wall you killing maybe 1/4 of the mold and missing "the roots" sorta like cutting a weed instead of pulling it (no pun intended). but like you said you have too much humidity fixing anything else is just a bandaid fix.
 
buddwasher

buddwasher

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thanx tahmi - really good info on the spores - i certainly didnt know this (i am guessing as these sprores mature they will be air born and effect my plants). i am resolved to finishing off this crop where i am but come late jan i am looking for a new site

mean time H2O2 os top of my list

and u ask am i really watering x3 per day as though this is a bad idea? could u elaborate in this please.

thanx for taking an interest
 
Tahmi.Guhnn

Tahmi.Guhnn

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buddwasher said:
thanx tahmi - really good info on the spores - i certainly didnt know this (i am guessing as these sprores mature they will be air born and effect my plants). i am resolved to finishing off this crop where i am but come late jan i am looking for a new site

mean time H2O2 os top of my list

and u ask am i really watering x3 per day as though this is a bad idea? could u elaborate in this please.

thanx for taking an interest
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sry scrath that. i didn't realize you were using hydrton. i thought it was a soil or soiless mix. forgive me i was high. but about the spores being harmful to your plants. there are a lil over 100,000 species of fungi. about 100 of them are pathogenic to humans and a few 1000s are pathogenic to plants. so thier probably more harmful to the plants than you but not nesicarily gonna kill your plants. but you dont know until you start seeing a colony on your plants and by then its too late. because just like the walls the spores you see are just the surface. but if youve done a whole grow in there with out any on ur plants ether your really lucky or it does like plants. which could men ur really unlucky cuz it might like you. i'd worry more about the spores harming you than the plants. youd be amazed at how many spores can fit on the end of a needle.
 
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1oldgoat

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This something I found on the web that might help.

"Passive systems like DampRid provide an inexpensive alternative to quietly remove moisture from small areas. These systems are going to be slower, but as a result of their simplicity we can build several variations using the important chemical compound Calcium Chloride.

Calcium Chloride is a very easy to come by salt. Known as "Ice Melt" you can purchase it in 50lbs bags. Also, pool supply stores will sell it as a water calcium hardener. "The anhydrous salt is also widely used as a desiccant, where it will adsorb so much water that it will eventually dissolve in its own crystal lattice water." -wikipedia

And here is the process.

You'll need to design a two tier system. You can use things like thin/cheap plastic storage boxes, or 2 liter bottles with the tops cut off and stacked, or ziplock bags and little duct taped ingenuity. Regardless of how you choose to do this step you're going to need a top container that will drip into the lower container.

The upper tier will contain the calcium chloride crystals. It will be open air and, if you can manage it, blowing air over it will increase uptake. You will need to place many pin sized holes in the bottom of the upper tier; this allows the crystals to dissolve and drip into the lower tier.

The lower tier can be empty at the start and it will begin to fill with the dissolved solution. I think a better option than a drip reservoir is to use kitty litter to catch the moisture and lock it up.

Place the system wherever you'd like to in the room, but I would suggest it is close to your intake air. This gives the Calcium Chloride the first shot at the moisture.

When the thing is full of water you simply empty your lower tier, replace your Calcium Chloride in the upper tier, and that's it, that simple.

Now what can you expect from something like this? Well, that all depends on the size of your room, the ingenious of your personal design, your RH (it works better at 50+ humidity), and yadda yadda. So, as a general rule here, it will constantly keep your RH about 10 points lower than the intake. So from 70 to 60, or 60 to 50. Around 40 though it get's tricky, and it won't reduce the humidity much below 30% unless you have several "diy dehumidifiers" in the room.

So, $6 on 4 lbs Calcium Chloride pool hardener and another $6 on a bag of kitty litter, couple of two liters, or ziplocks with some duct tape and you're set."

Or you can do a Google search 4 DIY dehumidifier

Or from RIU: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/336222-diy-dehumidifier-using-charcoal.html
 
*BUDS

*BUDS

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i agree the dehumidifier is a must have for you, get one to pull about 30-40 litres a day out of there. Run it in the dark cycle only to add some heat to grow room. might cost $500-$600 but it will be worth thousands to you.
 
buddwasher

buddwasher

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1oldgoat said:
This something I found on the web that might help.

"Passive systems like DampRid provide an inexpensive alternative to quietly remove moisture from small areas. These systems are going to be slower, but as a result of their simplicity we can build several variations using the important chemical compound Calcium Chloride.

Calcium Chloride is a very easy to come by salt. Known as "Ice Melt" you can purchase it in 50lbs bags. Also, pool supply stores will sell it as a water calcium hardener. "The anhydrous salt is also widely used as a desiccant, where it will adsorb so much water that it will eventually dissolve in its own crystal lattice water." -wikipedia

And here is the process.

You'll need to design a two tier system. You can use things like thin/cheap plastic storage boxes, or 2 liter bottles with the tops cut off and stacked, or ziplock bags and little duct taped ingenuity. Regardless of how you choose to do this step you're going to need a top container that will drip into the lower container.

The upper tier will contain the calcium chloride crystals. It will be open air and, if you can manage it, blowing air over it will increase uptake. You will need to place many pin sized holes in the bottom of the upper tier; this allows the crystals to dissolve and drip into the lower tier.

The lower tier can be empty at the start and it will begin to fill with the dissolved solution. I think a better option than a drip reservoir is to use kitty litter to catch the moisture and lock it up.

Place the system wherever you'd like to in the room, but I would suggest it is close to your intake air. This gives the Calcium Chloride the first shot at the moisture.

When the thing is full of water you simply empty your lower tier, replace your Calcium Chloride in the upper tier, and that's it, that simple.

Now what can you expect from something like this? Well, that all depends on the size of your room, the ingenious of your personal design, your RH (it works better at 50+ humidity), and yadda yadda. So, as a general rule here, it will constantly keep your RH about 10 points lower than the intake. So from 70 to 60, or 60 to 50. Around 40 though it get's tricky, and it won't reduce the humidity much below 30% unless you have several "diy dehumidifiers" in the room.

So, $6 on 4 lbs Calcium Chloride pool hardener and another $6 on a bag of kitty litter, couple of two liters, or ziplocks with some duct tape and you're set."

Or you can do a Google search 4 DIY dehumidifier

Or from RIU: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/336222-diy-dehumidifier-using-charcoal.html
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thanx m8 for info - i will give the charcaol a go aswell as your calcium chloride method will let u know with pics :D

and cheers too BUDS i cant use anymore power on my 15 amp line - its a long exstention so cant even pull 15amps - more like 12 max
at mo i cant heat and light together :(
 
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