Biggest yield to date/ what’s the wet vs dry weight conversion

LinguaPeel

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How much less does a shitty low Brix hydro plant weigh after shriveled up into dust, compared to a natural high Brix organic plant, that actually gets you high? Some of you math fags get your calculator and see how a 26 Brix compares to a shitty 6 Brix like you all grow.

If a shitty low Brix aka hydroponic crop loses more weight due to being empty watery garbage, then what's the point of growing hydro again? So you can buy a brovida and pretend it's dank?
 

Kingrow1

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Ok, well hes opened my own thoughts to how horrible his advice is.

I dont know what you really know about him but you do you boo boo an if you wanna learn things the hard way then listen up and figure out the hard way. Green horns gotta grow up somehow I guess.

But I've been doing this a long time and while I still learn a lot of new tricks all the time, this isnt my first rodeo
Oh gosh this is probably going to really grind your gears then -

https://www.rollitup.org/t/breaking-the-dry-and-cure-down-for-the-new-dude-on-the-block.986529/

I can troll more of the info i write on thermometer placement, hermies, apical dominance, the cause of trifoliates, genetics....

I feel theres a block button you can hit to make the pain go away :-)
 

homebrewer

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How much less does a shitty low Brix hydro plant weigh after shriveled up into dust, compared to a natural high Brix organic plant, that actually gets you high? Some of you math fags get your calculator and see how a 26 Brix compares to a shitty 6 Brix like you all grow.

If a shitty low Brix aka hydroponic crop loses more weight due to being empty watery garbage, then what's the point of growing hydro again? So you can buy a brovida and pretend it's dank?

https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/what_organic_fertilizers_mean_to_plants_and_soil
The fundamental process of nutrient absorption by plants is well established. Irrespective of whether nutrients originate from organic or inorganic sources, plants are only capable of absorbing nutrients in certain forms. For example, nitrogen is only absorbed as nitrate (NO3-) ions or ammonium (NH4+) ions and potassium only as K+ ions. Thus, plants do not differentiate between nutrients derived from organic and inorganic fertilizer sources.
 

growingforfun

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Oh gosh this is probably going to really grind your gears then -

https://www.rollitup.org/t/breaking-the-dry-and-cure-down-for-the-new-dude-on-the-block.986529/

I can troll more of the info i write on thermometer placement, hermies, apical dominance, the cause of trifoliates, genetics....

I feel theres a block button you can hit to make the pain go away :-)
I see that's called breaking down the dry and cure for the new dude on the block.

Tell me, am I new? No. I'm not. Is that for drying pounds or grams? Hmmm... I dont think its relevant but you do you. Micro growers are funny to me so keep making me laugh.
 

Bookush34

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I had 54oz of wet bud. Rough trim with long branch’s for hanging.

After cure and final trim. 6.2 Oz.

So around 12%. If you took the stems and trim out of the wet weight.

Probably 18-20%.
 

Hydro4life

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How much less does a shitty low Brix hydro plant weigh after shriveled up into dust, compared to a natural high Brix organic plant, that actually gets you high? Some of you math fags get your calculator and see how a 26 Brix compares to a shitty 6 Brix like you all grow.

If a shitty low Brix aka hydroponic crop loses more weight due to being empty watery garbage, then what's the point of growing hydro again? So you can buy a brovida and pretend it's dank?
A hydro plants total dry buds weigh about this much more!20190312_162905.jpg
 

Dank You, More Please

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Awesome looking :leaf:!!

Generally, finalWeight will be between 20-35% of freshWeight, or a driedRatio of between 0.20 - 0.35

If you'd like to determine more-or-less exactly how much weight you will lose, do the following:
  1. Take a representative nugger from the batch.
  2. Weight it, record 'freshWeight'
  3. Place that nuggie in a dehydrator, or an oven at 125F until it is as dry as you'd have it traditionally.
  4. Weigh it again, record 'dryWeight'
  5. driedRatio = dryWeight / freshWeight
  6. Weigh your entire batch, record 'initialWeight' making sure to weight it after trimming.
  7. finalWeight = initialWeight * driedRatio
  8. Once your harvest is finished drying, record 'actualWeight'
Perform and record this with every single harvest, determine the percent difference between 'finalWeight' and 'actualWeight' to figure our your error range. Eventually with enough trials you can either narrow this down, or account for it in your calculations.

I've been doing this with every batch since 2012 (n = 72) and, for example, know that my Super Skunk has a driedRatio of 0.35 +/- 0.01. From the time I first cut my babies down I know exactly how much I'll have in the end.

Also, there are a number of factors that I've found that will affect the driedRatio.
  • Density of the flower itself - more dense flowers will hold more water per cubic and have a lower driedRatio.
  • Whether or not the plant was flushed - a substantial fresh-water flush prior to harvest will remove built up minerals/nutrients and lead to very slightly lower driedRatio.
  • Withholding water prior to harvest - Allowing the soil to dry out completely or shutting off hydro/aeroponics for a period of time before harvest and allowing the plant to utilize stored water will provide you a higher driedRatio.
Personally, withholding water has given me better results come harvest and during curing. With a new strain it makes it easier to eyeball finalWeight. None of these methods are going to affect the final weight, just the difference. Withholding water can however produce more potent flower, which is the main reason I do it.
 

Hydro4life

Well-Known Member
Awesome looking :leaf:!!

Generally, finalWeight will be between 20-35% of freshWeight, or a driedRatio of between 0.20 - 0.35

If you'd like to determine more-or-less exactly how much weight you will lose, do the following:
  1. Take a representative nugger from the batch.
  2. Weight it, record 'freshWeight'
  3. Place that nuggie in a dehydrator, or an oven at 125F until it is as dry as you'd have it traditionally.
  4. Weigh it again, record 'dryWeight'
  5. driedRatio = dryWeight / freshWeight
  6. Weigh your entire batch, record 'initialWeight' making sure to weight it after trimming.
  7. finalWeight = initialWeight * driedRatio
  8. Once your harvest is finished drying, record 'actualWeight'
Perform and record this with every single harvest, determine the percent difference between 'finalWeight' and 'actualWeight' to figure our your error range. Eventually with enough trials you can either narrow this down, or account for it in your calculations.

I've been doing this with every batch since 2012 (n = 72) and, for example, know that my Super Skunk has a driedRatio of 0.35 +/- 0.01. From the time I first cut my babies down I know exactly how much I'll have in the end.

Also, there are a number of factors that I've found that will affect the driedRatio.
  • Density of the flower itself - more dense flowers will hold more water per cubic and have a lower driedRatio.
  • Whether or not the plant was flushed - a substantial fresh-water flush prior to harvest will remove built up minerals/nutrients and lead to very slightly lower driedRatio.
  • Withholding water prior to harvest - Allowing the soil to dry out completely or shutting off hydro/aeroponics for a period of time before harvest and allowing the plant to utilize stored water will provide you a higher driedRatio.
Personally, withholding water has given me better results come harvest and during curing. With a new strain it makes it easier to eyeball finalWeight. None of these methods are going to affect the final weight, just the difference. Withholding water can however produce more potent flower, which is the main reason I do it.
Ive always found my denser buds dont loose as much wet weight to dry weight ratio where as the airy/popcorn buds weigh next to nothing when dry. Im always careful not to sneeze around dry popcorn buds or ill never see them again!
 

Johnny Lawrence

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How much less does a shitty low Brix hydro plant weigh after shriveled up into dust, compared to a natural high Brix organic plant, that actually gets you high? Some of you math fags get your calculator and see how a 26 Brix compares to a shitty 6 Brix like you all grow.

If a shitty low Brix aka hydroponic crop loses more weight due to being empty watery garbage, then what's the point of growing hydro again? So you can buy a brovida and pretend it's dank?
^ This post is incredibly fucking stupid.
 

Kingrow1

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I see that's called breaking down the dry and cure for the new dude on the block.

Tell me, am I new? No. I'm not. Is that for drying pounds or grams? Hmmm... I dont think its relevant but you do you. Micro growers are funny to me so keep making me laugh.
We prefer to be called 'small tent growers' or simply 'small tenters' and the science works for both grams pounds or plantation.
:-)
 

growingforfun

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We prefer to be called 'small tent growers' or simply 'small tenters' and the science works for both grams pounds or plantation.
:-)
Please tell me more about science. I've never heard of the type of science you peddle. Is it like flat earth science? Is it like Christian science? Its it dubbed kinggrow science?

I can see it now... 500 paper bags...

Science!!!

So how are those cfls working out for ya boss? And like it or not, your a micro grower. Theres a forum here for people like you, its called micro grows. Your in the wrong section.
 

Kingrow1

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Please tell me more about science. I've never heard of the type of science you peddle. Is it like flat earth science? Is it like Christian science? Its it dubbed kinggrow science?

I can see it now... 500 paper bags...

Science!!!

So how are those cfls working out for ya boss? And like it or not, your a micro grower. Theres a forum here for people like you, its called micro grows. Your in the wrong section.
I wrote a thread on how to dry and your confused - does this now confirm how stupid you are, the thread and science was nay hard to understand and even noobs get it.

So yar no your not a new grower but ya you are weak here and you would be lucky to troll with me around as peeps just read both sets of info and think your stupid, lying and trying to hide basic grow info from the site. Hang dry on that dude :-)
 

Kingrow1

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Don't be insulting micro growers. Hate the player not the team.


He is infuriating though...LED blah, Blah, made up science, blah blah
Please you were all running round humping PPFD and comparing lights like fools - i merely dulled the hype down so the average grower didnt have to here his lights were shit in every thread and the constant attacks on hps plus cmh conundrums.

Like you can write that i talk rubbish or suck but most can simply read my threads and make up their own mind based on the science and egos.

As soon as i disprove one thing you all loose credibility tbh and that burns most as they think they have some grip here or on OUR herb or some industry. Theres plenty new members not looking to troll and simply want to talk learn and have fun growing - so why are you telling them to jar wet weed or that PFFD led lights grow twice as much when quite obviously they dont.

Too good for you guys after years of growing thats what :-)
 
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