BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

vacpurge

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lol your first vac truck. cute. I gotta work around screaming hydro vacs all day long, they suck but are impressively powerful. a buddy of mine runs one... he gets paid for the hours the truck gets paid for. minimum charge is 3 hours. sometimes only takes 20 mins.. sometimes he does 5 short jobs. done by noon and gets paid 15 hours that day!!!

thats one seriously large run!!! I was hoping this thread didnt get buried.

36 cans??? crazy. running 2 lbs or what?? 900 grams.. 15% final yield... lets see a 130 gram puck of oil!!!!!!
 

Guzias1

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lolll..

mature buds , non trimmed

de stemmed, through the grinder

1600 grams clean

hoping 16-17% after winter, lets see!


on same run, of early premature buds, i got 15 after winter.

due to my mishap, i only got a portion going today.

I'll get returns % in about a week

hope it all goes well :]


and i hope to show this thread some new love soon with some new techniques, and thoughts on my process. cheers
 

Guzias1

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heat pads, and devices with electrical to warm your pyrex is not recommended. safety concerns, electrical on/off sparks etc...


a hot water bath, (hot tap out of the sink is perfect) (my hot tap water is hot enough to where i can touch it for about 3 seconds, before i think its too hot)
( roughly 120F)

why do we use hot water baths? to speed up the evap, boil off of butane..

so, that being said, if you plan on spraying more than 5 cans, i doubt one pyrex will hold all that liquid butane, without spilling over..


my pyrex hold about 4 cups of liquid.

i spray into room temp pyrex, laying in a dry big plastic bucket, and when my pool reaches about 1 cup high, i then proceed to add my hot water to the bucket, (not pyrex!!!!)

i boil off tane with hot water bath until my pool of collected oil/butane in pyrex reaches 80F.. i then purge in pyrex, or scrape onto parchment to finish off.
 

vacpurge

New Member
Hi I was wondering do i really need the heat pad underneath the Pyrex dish? Is it ok if I just blast into Pyrex dish then put it on the heat pad to purge?
well it depends... do you enjoy blasting in an extremely highly explosive atmosphere while breathing in harmful fumes.... or would you rather blast in a non explosive environment with minimal fumes going into your lungs??

also. do you know what happens when you put glass thats near -30C onto something that is near +100C????


1600g eh guzias... thats sick.

how come you dont buy a sift box, and try taking all the kief off a few hundred gs, etc... and run like 2 or 3 ozs of pure kief... ive done it before with less than special results with 14g of kief. but maybe you can create something different or better... 3 ozs of kief and 1 can... sounds delicious.
 

Fadedawg

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Hi I was wondering do i really need the heat pad underneath the Pyrex dish? Is it ok if I just blast into Pyrex dish then put it on the heat pad to purge?
We set the catch container in hot tap water during blasting, to quickly boil off the butane. The action of boiling lowers the bath temperature due to the latent heat of vaporization, and without some heat, it takes longer to boil off the butane, and ice will form on the edges from atmospheric humidity, adding water to the mix.
 

qwizoking

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Nah what you should get is a jewelry cleaner vibrator thing, little ultrasonic buzzer dohickey that heats up also
 

vacpurge

New Member
whats the stir plate for??? I cant think of any part during the oil process where you would want to stir and agitate your stuff.. maybe im not thinking hard enough.
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
I don't think frequency would be much of a factor I mean in degassing we use sonication to remove bubbles which could leave you with a product that's consistent with butter.. or possibly to add microscopic bubbles as used in encapsulation..... applying this to a dry sieve doesn't molecularly do anything your just automizing or speeding up the shaking/swirling method traditionally used
 

Fadedawg

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That could be cool. Have you seen the videos of them using subwoofers to make dry sieve hash?
Hee, hee, hee, we've had lots of fun extracting kif with vibrations and acoustics. I still have to run the followup using the seat shaker on the far right, but so far none of the accoustics can match the output of the Grinning Reaper, using a palm sander.

The best output with the 10" woofer, was at 30 hertz, which resonated the natural harmonics of the overall structure, and got the most motion out of it.

One of the reasons that the Grinning Reaper is so much faster, is because more of the shear waves are going in the direction that breaks off the trichome stalks.

The ultrasonic experiment failed, because a 60W transducer was too small, but the seat shaker still holds promise for accoustics.

Like the ultrasonic experiment, I will use the seat shaker on the Grinning Reaper test sled.



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Fadedawg

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I don't think frequency would be much of a factor I mean in degassing we use sonication to remove bubbles which could leave you with a product that's consistent with butter.. or possibly to add microscopic bubbles as used in encapsulation..... applying this to a dry sieve doesn't molecularly do anything your just automizing or speeding up the shaking/swirling method traditionally used
Bingo, my next experiment with the 60W ultrasonic transducer, is to see what effect it has on evaporation in a vacuum.

Wish I had as much time, energy, and money as projects...........
 

qwizoking

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So your saying you were able to find/calculate the resonance frequency of your strains trichomes? I imagine their was much trial and error, did you find different strains with differing ratios of cannabinoids to perform differently? I mean besides the natural fragility of indica dom strains used for hash making.....or do you just mean it vibrated the buds just right to produce quality hash? In any case would you say its more effective than traditional methods or that it can beat up your plant matter introducing chlorophyll or something?

If it did indeed resonate the trichs into breaking off, I imagine that applied with fresh frozen material would produce nicely...maybe you could get a nice product without even using a screen ....that'd be kinda cool.. just setting your bud on a dohickey and it shake the trichs off to collect
 
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