better than its cfl equivalent?
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churchhaze
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Oh, I see now... Sarcasm! (over my head). I was wondering how you could possibly think even a 100% efficient 100W lamp could compete with as much dissipation of a 400W HPS. (you'd need a ~128% efficient lamp assuming 400W HPS is 32% efficiency.). I guess I should have figured you knew better.
Edit: I know I may be oversimplifying... but "shooting down", no IR, and clever use of mirrors ... it's literally just smoke and mirrors. It makes a difference, but please...
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TigerSquad
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I promise it's all good been on for 2 months 18 to 20 he's a day I've actually added lights and the center hub makes quick changes very fast
pop22
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Even cheap, Chinese LED growlights ( NOT those stupid bulb type ) are better than CFL. With CFL, you think your getting off cheap, but your not. Shitty efficiency, very short life span for growing ( you may not be avle to tell by looking at them, but they ARE getting weaker, in fact, tests have shown they can lose 10-15% of their output in the first 30 days! Replace $20-$40 worth od CFL every 3 months and.......where is the savings? But an LED then save to get a real light!
TigerSquad
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I'm begging to see that. I have a few less added to the mid. A red blue spec spotlight from ace. 20$ works better for veg tho. And I have a 2 tube full spec Led from home depo. Now they both suck compared to others but I am getting some results to my set up. I have added 2 or 3 1600 lumn led sticks and plan to add more soon. As well as a few hi watt full spec less it's cree brand and anything up to 50$ is do able but cheaper is better but it does cost quility and I understand that but one day at a time right
TigerSquad
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Also adding t8 florescent fixtures in the corners
pop22
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With the price of the Citizen 1212 at $12 - $14, you could build a light with 2 to 4 chips On a bar type heatsink, run at 500 - 700ma and have a cheap LED veg light that won't lose ouput like cfl, etc. Hell you could build a 4 chip veg light for $100 or less!
I've used cfl, and T5, still do when I need a quick, temporary light. But eventually all will be replace by leds, which will last 10x longer!
I've used cfl, and T5, still do when I need a quick, temporary light. But eventually all will be replace by leds, which will last 10x longer!
TigerSquad
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Well its not enought to do much damage unless you eat it lol. But yeah ive made a switch i relized that all the shit from the store costed me about the same as 1 125w full spec cfl. And a just added 600w MH fixture (making my buds happy) i plan on completely going to cobs. I def see the advantage but do they produce the same as their mh\hps equivalent? I want the lower heat so i can build them inside an enclosure right now all 4 of my plants are umder the mh fixture with the cfl down the center of the plants. (too hot for my grow box)
TigerSquad
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Ive made this discovery lol
TigerSquad
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Upgraded to a 600w digitial MH but yeah too hot for grow area
CobKits
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no. watt-for-watt LED produces more
I know I'm late, but if youre buying lights on a budget, avoid stores! eBay is hands down your best option. I'll list a few lights I got from eBay:
105 watt 6500k cfl = 5 pack for $30 and a 3 pack for $21.
600 watt metal halide kit = $80
4 ft 8-bulb T5 = $90
125 watt cfl 2100k bloombulb = $15
400 watt HPS = $70
HPS and MH bulbs 400 and 600 watt = $10
Replacement bulbs for T5 = $23 for all 8
eBay is a buyer's market. Stores are seller's markets. Just make sure the seller has a high score. And shop around. I get all my grow shit from eBay, minus seeds of course lol for that ive been going to Linda Seeds. Good luck.
105 watt 6500k cfl = 5 pack for $30 and a 3 pack for $21.
600 watt metal halide kit = $80
4 ft 8-bulb T5 = $90
125 watt cfl 2100k bloombulb = $15
400 watt HPS = $70
HPS and MH bulbs 400 and 600 watt = $10
Replacement bulbs for T5 = $23 for all 8
eBay is a buyer's market. Stores are seller's markets. Just make sure the seller has a high score. And shop around. I get all my grow shit from eBay, minus seeds of course lol for that ive been going to Linda Seeds. Good luck.
Johnny Lawrence
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Yeah, you just bumped a year old thread. Nice work.
Good info is timeless
Johnny Lawrence
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Perhaps you should post some good info then. Your first post missed the mark.Good info is timeless
Dude actually said he could only afford store bought lights. EBay lights are cheaper and better. Yep, info that leads you to better products for less money is generally considered good info