Best organic pest control that leaves no taste and smell on buds?

Fahn2k

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Make sure you don't over water, when the top of the soil is moist it attracts gnats. Also consider using Pro Mix HP it has fungicide built in. I heard a top layer of sand on top of your soil helps too. I use Neel oil in a sprayer to coat the top of my soil, it seems to keep gnats under control. I never spray anything on the buds. Don't let food safe be confused with smoke safe. Food goes through your digestive system (stomach, kidney, intestines) while smoke goes through your cardio pulmonary system (heart and lungs).
 

Astral22

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Make sure you don't over water, when the top of the soil is moist it attracts gnats. Also consider using Pro Mix HP it has fungicide built in. I heard a top layer of sand on top of your soil helps too. I use Neel oil in a sprayer to coat the top of my soil, it seems to keep gnats under control. I never spray anything on the buds. Don't let food safe be confused with smoke safe. Food goes through your digestive system (stomach, kidney, intestines) while smoke goes through your cardio pulmonary system (heart and lungs).
Thanks! And you are absolutely right about the food/smoke safe, this is my main concern.

But how would you treat buds naturally if they get moldy for example? Honestly if i see mold on my buds i would rather call Hans with ze flammenwerfer and just get rid of the whole plant :D I absolutely hate mold..

For the past few years weed has been scarce in my region and you could only find bad weed, if you could even find any.. And regardless of the strain, seller or the city of origin, literally all of them have a unique and specific bad taste and smell, like it's one ingredient used in all of them.
The weed visually looks amazing, but tastes bitter like plastic and metal, or like burning duct tape. Smells very heavy and the ashes are black, the lungs hurt as hell after smoking and gives you a headache.. The high effect is terrible, it's numbing the mind like you drank alcohol and took sleeping pills together or something.. And these are all obviously different strains grown in different periods over few years, but with the same bad traits..
And the worst part is, they started masking the smell so when you first open the package it smells like good strong weed, but as soon as you light it up you can tell that familiar nasty taste. And after few days the good smell evaporates and starts smelling bitter again. It can smell like Blueberry, Bubblegum, Lemon, Pineapple etc. but they all taste like burning duct tape.
I wondered if this bitter taste is actually neem oil, silica or anything like that but now i highly doubt it, these are surely some other harder chemicals.. And if you can find weed not contaminated with chemicals, then it's moldy or rotten..

Thank you for the input, i just want to make sure my harvest will taste and smell good naturally and be safe to smoke :)
 

Fahn2k

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Thanks! And you are absolutely right about the food/smoke safe, this is my main concern.

But how would you treat buds naturally if they get moldy for example? Honestly if i see mold on my buds i would rather call Hans with ze flammenwerfer and just get rid of the whole plant :D I absolutely hate mold..

For the past few years weed has been scarce in my region and you could only find bad weed, if you could even find any.. And regardless of the strain, seller or the city of origin, literally all of them have a unique and specific bad taste and smell, like it's one ingredient used in all of them.
The weed visually looks amazing, but tastes bitter like plastic and metal, or like burning duct tape. Smells very heavy and the ashes are black, the lungs hurt as hell after smoking and gives you a headache.. The high effect is terrible, it's numbing the mind like you drank alcohol and took sleeping pills together or something.. And these are all obviously different strains grown in different periods over few years, but with the same bad traits..
And the worst part is, they started masking the smell so when you first open the package it smells like good strong weed, but as soon as you light it up you can tell that familiar nasty taste. And after few days the good smell evaporates and starts smelling bitter again. It can smell like Blueberry, Bubblegum, Lemon, Pineapple etc. but they all taste like burning duct tape.
I wondered if this bitter taste is actually neem oil, silica or anything like that but now i highly doubt it, these are surely some other harder chemicals.. And if you can find weed not contaminated with chemicals, then it's moldy or rotten..

Thank you for the input, i just want to make sure my harvest will taste and smell good naturally and be safe to smoke :)
Oh shit! dude you gotta know when to quit! I ain't dieing to get high. I think you have a classic example of weed that is overly fed nutrients without a proper flush. It shows when you don't get a good burn. The weed was rushed and grown based on profit. Control your environment, keep a close eye on the humidity to prevent mold. Then again while drying and curing. Go by the breeders general time frame for the flower cycle. You don't have the top of the line equipment that a pro breeder has, so it will take a few weeks longer. The breeder may say 9 weeks so use that as a rule to know when to start cutting back on nutrients, only use half. When you see the Trichomes start turning cloudy white start your flush, no nutrients. If your in soil flush for 1 to 2 weeks. Then dry slowly shooting for 7 to 10 days. When you cut down your plants dont trim the leaves so that it takes a little longer to dry. Also pay attention to the leaves when you get near harvest time. As you flush the leaves will start to yellow as the rest of the plant searches for nutrients that are no longer coming from the roots. As soon as you cut your plant get it upside down and hanging. Don't lay it down! get a fan on low for air circulation. I feel for you, but you cant be afraid to toss a fucked up plant if it may have adverse health effects. Don't die to get high!
 

Astral22

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Thanks dude, and yeah i completely stopped buying from others, everytime it would seem like a different weed and i got some to try, turns out it's the same shit like always, sprayed and grown with who knows what.. It was a hit and miss but no more, this is what made get into growing actually. And now i realize i should've done it long time ago :D
I'll do my best to create a good environment for my plants, hopefully everything turns out good as planned.
 

Hobbes

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Dr Zymes Amazing Eliminator is what you are looking for.

It is basically citric acid, fermented fruit juice, and will dissolve soft bodied insects and powdery mildew.

  • Kills Soft Bodied Insects
  • Removes Molds and Mildews
  • OMRI Listed
  • Food Grade Ingredients
  • Use up to and on Day of Harvest
  • No Oils, Won't Clog Stomata
  • Gluten Free
  • Non GMO
  • Biodegradable
  • No Residue
  • Bacteria Free
  • Food Grade Ingredients
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Doctor Zymes Natural Products

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DCcan

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I found this BioBizz Leaf Coat but i can't seem to find any reviews on it: https://www.biobizz.com/producto/leafcoat/ any experience with this product?
Description
BioBizz Leaf Coat is an all-organic foliar spray made from natural latex.. It was primarily designed to limit evaporation. However, Leaf Coat will also help strengthen your plants and increase their resistance to pests and moulds
That is more for cloning and transplanting, but still useful in veg. Don't spray that on flowers. You could tank mix that, it will prevent UV breakdown of whatever is mixed, like pyrethrin.
Best bet for flower is stick with citric acid and phosphoric acid products.

Consider inoculating the plants as well, applying Trichoderma, seaweed extract at seedling stage.
Look at Intergrated Pest Management practices, develop a rotation/combination of chemical and biological controls to apply during veg.
Even something simple like sulfur powder, (any)horticultural oils, and monitoring go a long way.
 

Plutonium

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Hi, i'm looking for the best organic pest control that leaves no taste or smell on buds, and it's safe to smoke. Something that could be used in any stage of the growth. Specifically against all types of fungus, mold, mildew etc. but also for other pests such as spider mites. Any recommendations please?

Soon i'll be starting my first grow and i want to prepare upfront to prevent any pests on my plants, especially mold because i'm allergic to mold and i have problems with my lungs. Of course i will be controlling the temps and humidity, but i would like to have that extra security.

So far i thought about Neem oil, but i read many comments about Neem leaving a terrible taste and smell, and that it shouldn't be used in the flowering stage.
Ladybugs are not an option as i can't have bugs flying in my house :)

I found this BioBizz Leaf Coat but i can't seem to find any reviews on it: https://www.biobizz.com/producto/leafcoat/ any experience with this product?

What do you personally use, how do you prevent pests in a completely 100% organic way, without altering the taste/smell of the finished product and making it safe to smoke?
Castile Soap Solution.
 

xtsho

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Dr Zymes Amazing Eliminator is what you are looking for.

It is basically citric acid, fermented fruit juice, and will dissolve soft bodied insects and powdery mildew.

  • Kills Soft Bodied Insects
  • Removes Molds and Mildews
  • OMRI Listed
  • Food Grade Ingredients
  • Use up to and on Day of Harvest
  • No Oils, Won't Clog Stomata
  • Gluten Free
  • Non GMO
  • Biodegradable
  • No Residue
  • Bacteria Free
  • Food Grade Ingredients
.

Doctor Zymes Natural Products

.


Dr Zymes and Nuke Em from Flying Skull both use citric acid as the active ingredient and both are OMRI. Both are effective. I'm biased towards Nuke Em just because it's a local company just down the road from me but Doctor Zymes is a great product as well. I myself just make my own solution with citric acid but for those that don't and prefer a premade product Dr Zymes or Nuke Em are very effective and are not poisons like some of the stuff people are spraying on their plants.

More people should be using these natural non-toxic solutions when treating the cannabis they're going to be smoking.
 

DCcan

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Yeah I often add silica in my preventative foliar sprays for fungal infections.
Liquid Silica will emulsify neem and other oils, usually better than most soaps.

My new best garden tool is non-ionic surfactant, usually yucca extract based.
It makes sulfur and oil applications a breeze, and increases the effective coverage of anything else you spray.
 

stealthfader508

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Dr Zymes and Nuke Em from Flying Skull both use citric acid as the active ingredient and both are OMRI. Both are effective. I'm biased towards Nuke Em just because it's a local company just down the road from me but Doctor Zymes is a great product as well. I myself just make my own solution with citric acid but for those that don't and prefer a premade product Dr Zymes or Nuke Em are very effective and are not poisons like some of the stuff people are spraying on their plants.

More people should be using these natural non-toxic solutions when treating the cannabis they're going to be smoking.
how do you make it?... i use zymes but rather make it myself
 

Jjgrow420

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Make sure you don't over water, when the top of the soil is moist it attracts gnats. Also consider using Pro Mix HP it has fungicide built in. I heard a top layer of sand on top of your soil helps too. I use Neel oil in a sprayer to coat the top of my soil, it seems to keep gnats under control. I never spray anything on the buds. Don't let food safe be confused with smoke safe. Food goes through your digestive system (stomach, kidney, intestines) while smoke goes through your cardio pulmonary system (heart and lungs).
Lol what are you talking about flushing plants and promix has fungicides in it??? Where you getting this information from lulz
Don't take any advice from this person they clearly have no clue what they're talking about...another broscience grow pro. Lol
 

Astral22

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