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GypsyOwl

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So, have a buddy that grows. He is moving out of state and is currently at about the start of week 6 in flower. He has aprox 27 days left until his move. Should he run the room as long as possible, then run the room a batch at a time fresh off the plant skipping freezer, so that he can flower to week 8 ish then chop and skip drying as there is no time. Or she he chop early, cut his losses and do a proper dry then run??? He doesn't have much EXP running anything other than properly dried material. I know ha has done 2 fresh frozen runs. He will be using a active 1 # system, and didn't know if skipping the deep freeze and running fresh off the plant was even an option.
 

Fadedawg

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So, have a buddy that grows. He is moving out of state and is currently at about the start of week 6 in flower. He has aprox 27 days left until his move. Should he run the room as long as possible, then run the room a batch at a time fresh off the plant skipping freezer, so that he can flower to week 8 ish then chop and skip drying as there is no time. Or she he chop early, cut his losses and do a proper dry then run??? He doesn't have much EXP running anything other than properly dried material. I know ha has done 2 fresh frozen runs. He will be using a active 1 # system, and didn't know if skipping the deep freeze and running fresh off the plant was even an option.
Running fresh cut material at room temperature makes a soupy mess.
 

GypsyOwl

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Running fresh cut material at room temperature makes a soupy mess.
So then would the best option to be cut, deep freeze, then run, or would you cut early, dry then run? He has only ran fresh frozen twice and it came out kind sappy as well. no temps exceed 90 during run. on active cls 70/30 blend.
 

Fadedawg

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So then would the best option to be cut, deep freeze, then run, or would you cut early, dry then run? He has only ran fresh frozen twice and it came out kind sappy as well. no temps exceed 90 during run. on active cls 70/30 blend.
I would either run it at -50C or dry it first.
 

GypsyOwl

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He is really down to the day with time, so with the plants being where they are in flower the drying time really isn't there since it is needed for them to bulk up. He has a regular deep freeze that he uses the tane with. Would you suggest chop, hang for maybe 24 hr in reg drying conditions to pull that much more h20 out of them before bucking and freezing?
 

GypsyOwl

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gonna strip the fans some in the next few days. Give them a week of all that stripped off, then chop,24 hr dry, then deep freeze max cold, load in pre chilled column, ..... what oven temp do you suggest? Thank you very much by the way. I don't have a like or plus up rep this being a new acct.
 

Fadedawg

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gonna strip the fans some in the next few days. Give them a week of all that stripped off, then chop,24 hr dry, then deep freeze max cold, load in pre chilled column, ..... what oven temp do you suggest? Thank you very much by the way. I don't have a like or plus up rep this being a new acct.
I freeze the material to about -18C/0F and use LPG at -30 to -50C.
 

GypsyOwl

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So is ~30g from a "normal 1# Dry column" full of fresh frozen a bad return? I know yields are way off from dry, which on this system is around 60-90g from dry.
 

Fadedawg

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So is ~30g from a "normal 1# Dry column" full of fresh frozen a bad return? I know yields are way off from dry, which on this system is around 60-90g from dry.
Mfg advertising claims vary. What are the dimensions of your 1# column?

Yield is about the same as dry extraction, if you account for the extra bulk and weight from the water.
 

GypsyOwl

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The coloumn is a 3'' x 18'', I feel like I am losing mass amount of terps somewhere. Can the gas be ruined from running janky material from my previous client now making the live resin taste that way or something else is way off. I just think not only the yields are way low, but the end product taste bad. The stating material is GOOD, no sprays, etc..... Really confused here.
 

Fadedawg

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At my average packing rate, that size column would hold about 1.06 lbs and on average we would expect to yield 20/25% from 15/20% moisture content material. That would be about 97 grams yield at 20%, so would produce about 20 grams from wet material.

You can definitely contaminate LPG with one run and carry on to the next run. The recovered LPG will always contain some terpenes and when running fresh material, typically more than an average amount of water.
 
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