Best led for 3x3 tent, help

testiclees

testiclees

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fatneal said:
hilarious...i get decent results man...i run a bunch of 3x3 tents with 2 300w old model mars panels in each and get no less than half a pound per harvest....depends on the strain but still....its not the best results but its good...when you consider 2 panels are $130 shipped the production for the price is worth it....being an obnoxious smart alec does nothing for the community bro...if you grow differently thats cool more power to you but that doesnt mean talk trash about other methods that work....anyway happy growing to you in 2016
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By "works" you mean it works like shit it,creaks along performing mostly as a noisy heater. With no basis for comparison you are essentially talking out your ass. By decent results you mean decent for a JA.

. The purpose here is to light the way with more informed and validated info. You have little experience and less actual knowledge. Youve made loutish claims based only on your ability to flap your gums. The posts you drop are based on your cluelessness. Its not helpful. Except to reveal that the supply of willfully ignorant nit wits is far from exhausted.
 
testiclees

testiclees

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fatneal said:
its as if you guys truly believe what you like and prefer is exclusively right and its the only way to get the job done thats what i find offensive. theres ego and classism in all industries i suppose...happy growing to all of you in 2016
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Theres straight up assholery right in your post. Stuff that bloated, cretinsh view point back up your ass with the rest of your 'thoughts'.
 
fatneal

fatneal

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testiclees said:
By "works" you mean it works like shit it,creaks along performing mostly as a noisy heater. With no basis for comparison you are essentially talking out your ass. By decent results you mean decent for a JA.

. The purpose here is to light the way with more informed and validated info. You have little experience and less actual knowledge. Youve made loutish claims based only on your ability to flap your gums. The posts you drop are based on your cluelessness. Its not helpful. Except to reveal that the supply of willfully ignorant nit wits is far from exhausted.
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check ya tone bro...this is a thread a guy made to see what lights he should get for his 3x3 tent for personal smoke...if anything guys like you bring the wrong value for this thread. you think youre better than anyone who isnt growing how you do. results dont lie...you offer a way to get good results at more cost and i offer a low cost solution. im not the one arrogantly talking down to anyone just speaking from what ive seen and done.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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@fatneal show some pics and shut me up. You don't even know about me and Mars and you try to insult me. Hahahaha you need to go through my post and then you'll see I'm nit attacking you. I'm trying to save you from the bullshit you are using.
 
needsomebeans

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I started with T5 and they will give you results, but they weren't the results I was looking for. I ordered a 300 watt and a 200 watt flea bay light. There again I grew some good smoke but still not the results I wanted. HID puts off to much heat so I started looking at DIY. I constructed a 100 watt light with 2 vero 29s @ 3000k. I'm so impressed by it that I ordered 3 more veros and I'm just waiting on the drivers to build my second light. Long story short the cheap lights will get you some results and you may be happy with that but if you want the most bang for your led buck go with the DIY. If your not a DIYer go with a couple of the Area 51s. Here is my little garden the day that I hung my light and 12 days later.image.jpeg image.jpeg
 
fatneal

fatneal

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REALSTYLES said:
@fatneal show some pics and shut me up. You don't even know about me and Mars and you try to insult me. Hahahaha you need to go through my post and then you'll see I'm nit attacking you. I'm trying to save you from the bullshit you are using.
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man i believe you..i saw your pics...i see the difference...that doesnt mean i have to grow how you grow...im not a diy kinda guy so i wont be building any lights and the price of the best leds isnt a appealing to me because i dont think the yeild will improve enough from what im already getting.....if you can show me a led panel thats $300 or less that can double my yield per tent id buy
 
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az2000

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fatneal said:
i get decent results man...i run a bunch of 3x3 tents with 2 300w old model mars panels in each and get no less than half a pound per harvest....
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Assuming the old Mars panels draw 150w each, you're doing 33w/sq ft. I really doubt you're getting great buds. Do you have any photos of how the buds turn out?

There's nothing wrong with being happy with that. Growing your own cannabis is always better. It never matters how dense the buds are, etc.

But, the problem is that some people do care. What's decent for you might not be for someone else. (It's the same problem as the videos showing large, dense buds -- without disclosing it involved 90w/sq ft).

It's not a problem to delineate these things, is it?
 
testiclees

testiclees

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fatneal said:
check ya tone bro...this is a thread a guy made to see what lights he should get for his 3x3 tent for personal smoke...if anything guys like you bring the wrong value for this thread. you think youre better than anyone who isnt growing how you do. results dont lie...you offer a way to get good results at more cost and i offer a low cost solution. im not the one arrogantly talking down to anyone just speaking from what ive seen and done.
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Bro my tone is REAL. How many folks need to tell you that youre full of shit.

If you cant get into the legit push back go to a place where you can talk bullshit w/o issue. RIU is not that place.

".if you can show me a led panel thats $300 or less that can double my yield per tent id buy"
With your perspective it makes sense youre happyw your head up your ass. Bullshit in bullshit out explains your philosophy.
 
needsomebeans

needsomebeans

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fatneal said:
man i believe you..i saw your pics...i see the difference...that doesnt mean i have to grow how you grow...im not a diy kinda guy so i wont be building any lights and the price of the best leds isnt a appealing to me because i dont think the yeild will improve enough from what im already getting.....if you can show me a led panel thats $300 or less that can double my yield per tent id buy
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http://www.a51led.net/products

2 of those are $348 and you will make the $48 up in energy savings in less then a year.
 
tripleD

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fatneal said:
man i believe you..i saw your pics...i see the difference...that doesnt mean i have to grow how you grow...im not a diy kinda guy so i wont be building any lights and the price of the best leds isnt a appealing to me because i dont think the yeild will improve enough from what im already getting.....if you can show me a led panel thats $300 or less that can double my yield per tent id buy
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I think that what everyone is trying to say is that you are more than welcome to use whatever light you want, but if you're going to refute what they said FIRST then you really should be able to supply them with something more than just saying "hey, this shitty light works for me & it will give you the best bang for your buck..."
If you're gna keep saying sumthing like that then you need to be able to at least show sum pics for people to reference...
 
fatneal

fatneal

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az2000 said:
Assuming the old Mars panels draw 150w each, you're doing 33w/sq ft. I really doubt you're getting great buds. Do you have any photos of how the buds turn out?

There's nothing wrong with being happy with that. Growing your own cannabis is always better. It never matters how dense the buds are, etc.

But, the problem is that some people do care. What's decent for you might not be for someone else. (It's the same problem as the videos showing large, dense buds -- without disclosing it involved 90w/sq ft).

It's not a problem to delineate these things, is it?
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this is truly crazy to me...its like yall are obsessed with being exclusively right...i never bashed anyones preference when to comes to growing. i dont have issues with density or potency or yield. im sure you guys have all clicked my profile looking for a journal or pics or whatever but i dont upload vids or pics in fact i usually dont even comment on threads i just lurk and learn. what i can say is google has many people who use all the mars panels and get results. im not discrediting anyones claims of there being a better way im just saying the math doesnt add up for me. doesnt mean im broke or dumb it just means spend and value things differently then you guys. ive seen people pull a pound with a 1khps light in a 3x3 space so sure my half pound harvest arent the best i can achieve but for now im cool with that fact.
 
needsomebeans

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Hell like I said I grew decent dope under my circus lights and as a matter one is still in use. It will be coming down as soon as my other light gets built. I've been rotating the plants in my garden to spread the love of the DIY light. Here is a picture of a plant I grew under my cheap lights and a picture of my light.image.jpeg image.jpeg
 
fatneal

fatneal

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testiclees said:
Bro my tone is REAL. How many folks need to tell you that youre full of shit.

If you cant get into the legit push back go to a place where you can talk bullshit w/o issue. RIU is not that place.

".if you can show me a led panel thats $300 or less that can double my yield per tent id buy"
With your perspective it makes sense youre happyw your head up your ass. Bullshit in bullshit out explains your philosophy.
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what your doing isnt pushback. we arent having a conversation your trying your best to shit on anyone who doesnt grow how you think they should. we all started growing for the same reasons, better smoke, medicinal, make some money or all of the above. i dont know any seasoned vets that approach the craft how you and others do. in some way this thread reminds me of those growers who couldnt fathom lights other than hids could grow quality weed. nobodys discrediting you or whats factually better or best but to say mars cant get the job done just isnt true no matter how you spin bro
 
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az2000

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fatneal said:
its like yall are obsessed with being exclusively right...
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What other kinds of right are there? :roll: I tried to outline how someone running low w/sq ft could be happy with their produce. Someone running high w/sq ft could be happy with their "trophy" buds.

To me, that's a couple of "perspectives" which could be seen as "right" for the condition.

It seems like you're reactive to clarifying these conditions, like there has to be just one condition: yours. If we point out how there's other ways to look at it, you say we're elite, snobs, obsessed, etc.

I don't think it's us. At least not me. I think a Mars Hydro is great if the individual knows what they're getting, what the alternatives are. It seems like you are sensitive to that kind of understanding?
 
fatneal

fatneal

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az2000 said:
What other kinds of right are there? :roll: I tried to outline how someone running low w/sq ft could be happy with their produce. Someone running high w/sq ft could be happy with their "trophy" buds.

To me, that's a couple of "perspectives" which could be seen as "right" for the condition.

It seems like you're reactive to clarifying these conditions, like there has to be just one condition: yours. If we point out how there's other ways to look at it, you say we're elite, snobs, obsessed, etc.

I don't think it's us. At least not me. I think a Mars Hydro is great if the individual knows what they're getting, what the alternatives are. It seems like you are sensitive to that kind of understanding?
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the operative word is "exclusively"...your right but so am i
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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fatneal said:
this is truly crazy to me...its like yall are obsessed with being exclusively right...i never bashed anyones preference when to comes to growing. i dont have issues with density or potency or yield. im sure you guys have all clicked my profile looking for a journal or pics or whatever but i dont upload vids or pics in fact i usually dont even comment on threads i just lurk and learn. what i can say is google has many people who use all the mars panels and get results. im not discrediting anyones claims of there being a better way im just saying the math doesnt add up for me. doesnt mean im broke or dumb it just means spend and value things differently then you guys. ive seen people pull a pound with a 1khps light in a 3x3 space so sure my half pound harvest arent the best i can achieve but for now im cool with that fact.
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Just wait until the light fails and you get the run around. Wait you probably bought your light off ebay so 1 year warranty that means your screwed. If you don't have pics it didn't happen. My lights crush Mars and HPS all day

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There is a major difference between the lights and you get what you pay for

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az2000

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fatneal said:
the operative word is "exclusively"...your right but so am i
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Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? I agree with you, there are different ways to look at it. If you're ok with airy buds because it's your meds and you're not showing off maximum product, that's great. (Just like someone using Mars Hydro like HPS @ 90w/sq ft.).

That's your choice and if it works for you, that's great. But, I don't think I'm being exclusive by mentioning these different priorities so others don't confuse Mars Hydro with more efficient LED. (It seems to me you're sensitive to that distinction being made.).
 
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