Best LED comparable to 1000W HPS
- Thread starter Imyourdaddylolz
- Start date
bk78
Well-Known Member
Wipe the gavita jizz dripping down your chin home boy.
bk78
Well-Known Member
Post some pics of your grows under your gavita 1700e please.
bk78
Well-Known Member
Csn you post a picture of your garden under your hlg 650r please.
id love to see it smash
UpstateRecGrower
Well-Known Member
The Gavita 1000w de is 1751umol after the reflector loss (bare bulb is 2100), So HLG is right, their Diablo 650 is indeed a 1000w de replacment, I think you own them an apology..
Question for all LED users out there
As I started in this business maybe half of decade ago I had to go ebay/cheap Chinese route for equipment and everything, but as the time progressed I realized that (sadly) in most cases only quality brands really do what they promise. From pen PH/EC testers to light sources etc - even if i buy...
www.rollitup.org
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
Did you read the thread, I owe no led company that has trolled bad figures anything. No one agrees a Hlg outgrows a De 1000w, too many are saying it.
If anything Hlg owe us an apology after gavita stepped in with different figures and we all now know Hlg twisted everything to gain sales and hurt hid markets.
It will take a cleverer member than me to work out reflector loss, most rate well over 90%, I cannot support or verify your figure. Others are running open and parabolics the like of which led has yet to really compete against. In a tent hps destroyed the 650 on par, without LEDs don't spread much the figures of HP's were less but still much better.
But none of this means much, most now agree a led needs 800w to rival a 1000w HPS, take that up with gavita not me, I also wanted to know how much light past par led producers were measuring, some craftily add their pbar pbfd numbers and I don't see hps doing the same.
LEDs have always had a chance to be truthfull and fit in, sorry they decided on the other path and we're all just working out the truth now, 8 year thread still going strong.
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
Also if I wanted to beat a 1000w double end hps I would produce a true 1000w led and then do lots a side by side.
Easy to say I just out grew a 1000w and show the power of LEDs over hid, as your still using 600w and talking rubbish I guess you have something to hide because that would be easy to prove and have everyone agree.
I think gavita did this and didn't want to go the same path as Hlg and look bad.
Frydmcnugget
Active Member
Fuck Im losen it lmao
norcalreppin77
Well-Known Member
How big of a space is that and how much are you projected to pull...
UpstateRecGrower
Well-Known Member
You’re not that bright are ya? The reflector material is over 90% that much is correct.. that’s each time the light is redirected however, the gavita with the hr96 reflector is 1750 uMole, the bare bulb is 2100 uMole. The diablo 650 is 1770 uMole. Your brain is 0 uMole.
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
And the gavita 1700e is better than the diablo yet is not a 1000w replacement by gavita.
The fucking numbers are covered in this thread, Hlg and gavita need to decide wtf is right or wrong.
1000w replacement, bro the led makers can't even agree with themselves, quit trolling.
"How big of a space is that and how much are you projected to pull"........
My first crop with 2 Gavita's I pulled 106 oz......... each LED was placed over a 4 x 4 sq. ft area. Results speaks a lot louder than any manufacturer claim or guys arguing this or that is better. I was an HPS grower for 30+ years and I'm producing a lot more now in less space and alot less electricity.
My first crop with 2 Gavita's I pulled 106 oz......... each LED was placed over a 4 x 4 sq. ft area. Results speaks a lot louder than any manufacturer claim or guys arguing this or that is better. I was an HPS grower for 30+ years and I'm producing a lot more now in less space and alot less electricity.
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
And you could have been producing more if you just used the same amount of electricity with LEDs.
Thanks for telling us you saved money, I'd have opted for more yeilds with that.
UpstateRecGrower
Well-Known Member
If he did a direct replacing watt for watt he may have had too much light depending on how many watts per sq/ft hps he was running..
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
Too much light, your not there yet with your 30w/s/f claims, wait till you hit 60.
UpstateRecGrower
Well-Known Member
You must have me confused with someone else.. and 60 would be too much
taurus25661
Active Member
Spider Farmer has some amazing lights for the price. Their SF 4000 model does a 5x5 and Im using their sf2000 since I have just a small 2x4 tent and im pulling massive buds and great harvest.
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
Don't not add the numbers, wattage/SF, efficiency umol/. Is that just par range or pbfd added too.
Sf4000 in a 5x5, is this true or marketing so you can get a new led on sponsor?
BBQtoast
Well-Known Member
No LEDs are yet touching the too much light bracket. Why go for a saving not beef out your yield.
Maybe a Hlg is easier for you to use over a higher wattage where getting it right will be a little harder.
My only point in this is Hlg type led Vs gavita type LEDs, big difference in wattage and saving.