Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the US

ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
ok! good! bye! now you can stop telling the democratic party what to do! see ya!
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I'll be sticking around thanks- to tell their constituents the truth about the Democrats and what to do if they don't think that serves their interests.

You've said it twice now- I think you're scared.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
I'll be sticking around thanks- to tell their constituents the truth about the Democrats and what to do if they don't think that serves their interests.

You've said it twice now- I think you're scared.
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see ya later!

bye!

have fun starting your own party!
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ttystikk said:
Elite Democrats are planning to abandon rural Democrats. They appointed a loser for Democratic Campaign Committee chair. He ran unopposed...

They'd rather lose to Republicans than allow progressive voters and candidates to have any say in how the party is run or what it should stand for.

Because that's their new job. They're getting paid very well to do it. They aren't being paid to WIN, they're being paid to keep the workers from being represented.
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The silence from moderates about this issue is telling. Overall takeaway; establishment Democrats would rather Republicans, like Donald Trump, win elections than cede control of the party to progressives. It's not about who has the better solution to the problem, it's about control and power.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
i'm not afraid of anything! i want you to start your own party!

bye!
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You're afraid actual progressives will take over the Democratic party and get rid of corporate Democrats like Manchin and McCaskill. Even they're afraid of that happening, they know exactly what's coming.

And you do too.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
You're afraid actual progressives will take over the Democratic party and get rid of corporate Democrats like Manchin and McCaskill. Even they're afraid of that happening, they know exactly what's coming.

And you do too.
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every single person bernie endorses, loses.

just start your own party already and show us how it's done! you're winners!
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
You're afraid actual progressives will take over the Democratic party and get rid of corporate Democrats like Manchin and McCaskill. Even they're afraid of that happening, they know exactly what's coming.

And you do too.
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Yeah, please leave the party and form a new one already. Quit eating our food and leave already.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
i will literally donate $27 to your newly formed party.
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Why are you against working-class people? That's all progressives are trying to do; help poor and working-class people. Establishment Democrats want to help billionaires and corporations make more money any way they can.

It's funny watching establishment Democrats squirm away from supporting single payer when they get asked about it in town halls. The talking points they use are right out of the Republican playbook. 60% of Americans support single payer healthcare, the overwhelming majority of Democrats support it, 43% of Republicans support it. It's time our representatives support it or we will replace them with someone who will.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
Why are you against working-class people? That's all progressives are trying to do; help poor and working-class people. Establishment Democrats want to help billionaires and corporations make more money any way they can.

It's funny watching establishment Democrats squirm away from supporting single payer when they get asked about it in town halls. The talking points they use are right out of the Republican playbook. 60% of Americans support single payer healthcare, the overwhelming majority of Democrats support it, 43% of Republicans support it. It's time our representatives support it or we will replace them with someone who will.
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single payer lost 80-20 in a blue state.

but i will still donate to your newly formed party!
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
single payer lost 80-20 in a blue state.

but i will still donate to your newly formed party!
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60% of Americans support single payer





Yet you cling to the failed ColoradoCare ballot measure that would have increased payroll and income taxes by 10% to fund it...

But that's the kind of person you are. You state one thing without context to make your point knowing your sycophants will automatically accept it without doing the research.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
The silence from moderates about this issue is telling. Overall takeaway; establishment Democrats would rather Republicans, like Donald Trump, win elections than cede control of the party to progressives. It's not about who has the better solution to the problem, it's about control and power.
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Even the New York Times is wringing its hands over the situation, here's an excerpt from their op Ed page;

"And it’s deeply ironic that Media Matters is whinging about Trump sucking up all the oxygen as Democrats simultaneously stoke the fire with Putin Derangement Syndrome, all because they (a) can’t produce a coherent explanation of their 2016 debacle, (b) can’t produce a coherent message other than the oxygen-sucking ‘We’re not Trump,’ and (c) are doing their best to strangle the most popular (working) politician in America today, as well as (d) drive his supporters from the party. No doubt what they really want to do is put Zuckerberg at the top of the ticket. That didn’t work for Eisenhower, and is unlikely to work with Zuckerberg, who has the bucks to build a new party from scratch. I mean, why would anybody work with those clowns?"

So. Finally, a list of real Democratic objectives;
  1. Find a suitable explanation or at least a distraction for their terrible performance last November.
  2. Produce some kind of message more coherent, nevermind more actionable than 'we're not Trump'.
  3. Kill Bernie Sanders! Protect the left flank at any cost, including political relevance!
  4. Get those pesky Progressives out of the party by any means necessary, lest they hijack the spotlight and push their own agenda.
So there you have it, the very best of Democratic Party thinking from their own media mouthpiece. The only thing more bankrupt than that hot mess would be America's finances, yet one more thing they're unwilling to admit the level of their culpability for.

Finally; Zuckerberg?! Seriously? Could they BE any more out of touch?
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
Even the New York Times is wringing its hands over the situation, here's an excerpt from their op Ed page;

"And it’s deeply ironic that Media Matters is whinging about Trump sucking up all the oxygen as Democrats simultaneously stoke the fire with Putin Derangement Syndrome, all because they (a) can’t produce a coherent explanation of their 2016 debacle, (b) can’t produce a coherent message other than the oxygen-sucking ‘We’re not Trump,’ and (c) are doing their best to strangle the most popular (working) politician in America today, as well as (d) drive his supporters from the party. No doubt what they really want to do is put Zuckerberg at the top of the ticket. That didn’t work for Eisenhower, and is unlikely to work with Zuckerberg, who has the bucks to build a new party from scratch. I mean, why would anybody work with those clowns?"

So. Finally, a list of real Democratic objectives;
  1. Find a suitable explanation or at least a distraction for their terrible performance last November.
  2. Produce some kind of message more coherent, nevermind more actionable than 'we're not Trump'.
  3. Kill Bernie Sanders! Protect the left flank at any cost, including political relevance!
  4. Get those pesky Progressives out of the party by any means necessary, lest they hijack the spotlight and push their own agenda.
So there you have it, the very best of Democratic Party thinking from their own media mouthpiece. The only thing more bankrupt than that hot mess would be America's finances, yet one more thing they're unwilling to admit the level of their culpability for.

Finally; Zuckerberg?! Seriously? Could they BE any more out of touch?
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Hillary won the vote you fucking cuck, why can't you accept that?

Democrats GAINED seats in Nov.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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Every business knows you have to cut cost to stay in business.

If you guy's we're Patriotic you would accept the fact we need to lower wages and "Entitlements" in order to compete with Communism and MAGA!

After all they are uneducated Workers, the Best kind.

Did anyone ask Nixon how long we would be lifting China out of Poverty?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Grandpapy said:
Every business knows you have to cut cost to stay in business.

If you guy's we're Patriotic you would accept the fact we need to lower wages and "Entitlements" in order to compete with Communism and MAGA!

After all they are uneducated Workers, the Best kind.

Did anyone ask Nixon how long we would be lifting China out of Poverty?
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LOL

Fucking smart ass!
 
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