Belief Without Evidence WTF?

Hepheastus420

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Huh?! Who called them angels... ? some called them monsters, some called them gods, & some called them faeries... who cares.. ?
Don't forget some called them aliens. So how can anyone scoff at the idea of them being angels, gods, fairies, or monsters and then say they were aliens? It doesn't make sense.
 

Heisenberg

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Within this post^^^ me and you are on the same page. So I would like to acknowledge that.

But it also brings up another argument that god does not mean everything. But that is a whole other argument and it would not be suitable for this thread. If you wish I will debate about that over another thread specifically made for your belief or over pm. But our beliefs about what god is has nothing to do with this thread.
This thread was troll bait to begin with. If you can have a constructive conversation then go for it. You might be a little less confused if you think of pantheism as atheism dressed up with a lot of euphemistic terms and unnecessary nuance. Most of the world follows a religion which believes in a specific god who takes personal interest in your life and answers prayers. Best not to get the two confused.
 
So you guys let them worship y'all and let them believe y'all were gods? Man that's fucked up lol.

Besides you didn't come down from "the heavens" to help build unbelievable buildings for these people.
No we didn't and even with today's technology we can't build to the presicion in stone as they di 5000 yrs ago, thy had a higher technology to help for sure. Lol I donno about letting them worship us but it wasvan effect that happened, yes we did come from the sky hello I said langing strips and airplanes not submarines lol
 
Just look at the faces on Mars, NASA has found multiple faces and sites that exactly resemble the pryamids of Giza in size and shape and positioning, ( positioned in alignement with Orion's belt, now hoe do we have real human like faces on meds and besicly the pyramids of Giza on Mars without there being somekind of intelligent life to build it? These shapes are known not to exist naturally in nature and the probability of something coming even close to resembling let alone be almost exact is like 1 to well the odd are too high to type,( its like 90000 nines) so to have a planet that is within what we call the golden zone for life and to have humanlike structure on it is evidence enough for me that there's intelligent life out there, besides that NASA has already concluded there's life besides our planet,
 

Hepheastus420

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Are you serious? An advanced civilization making contact with earth would be able to persuade 90% of our population they are "god"... & that is today.. imagine ancient man.
That's what I'm saying. The aliens told us they are our creators, so atheists are calling these aliens liars while religious people believe they are telling the truth.

Who gets to say aliens weren't gods? Our ancestors had way more experience with them than we did, so I believe our ancestors more when they say they were our creators.
 

Hepheastus420

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Just look at the faces on Mars, NASA has found multiple faces and sites that exactly resemble the pryamids of Giza in size and shape and positioning, ( positioned in alignement with Orion's belt, now hoe do we have real human like faces on meds and besicly the pyramids of Giza on Mars without there being somekind of intelligent life to build it? These shapes are known not to exist naturally in nature and the probability of something coming even close to resembling let alone be almost exact is like 1 to well the odd are too high to type,( its like 90000 nines) so to have a planet that is within what we call the golden zone for life and to have humanlike structure on it is evidence enough for me that there's intelligent life out there, besides that NASA has already concluded there's life besides our planet,
who said there wasn't a higher being? I'm acknowledging there's a higher being that built these pyramids. The argument between us is that I believe they were angels and you believe they were aliens.
 

RawBudzski

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I am confused.. . o_O Depending on the definition of "god" they could be. I believe "our" ancestors when they say we were manipulated as well. :) Though, as I said I would belive it was by an Alien before the almighty god from the king james bible. <3
Are you serious? An advanced civilization making contact with earth would be able to persuade 90% of our population they are "god"... & that is today.. imagine ancient man.


That's what I'm saying. The aliens told us they are our creators, so atheists are calling these aliens liars while religious people believe they are telling the truth.

Who gets to say aliens weren't gods? Our ancestors had way more experience with them than we did, so I believe our ancestors more when they say they were our creators.
 

Hepheastus420

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I am confused.. . o_O Depending on the definition of "god" they could be. I believe "our" ancestors when they say we were manipulated as well. :) Though, as I said I would belive it was by an Alien before the almighty god from the king james bible. <3
So the only difference is that I believe they were angels and you believe they were aliens. Have you ever thought that either way they are the same thing? That's what I think at least, but then again IDK anything.
 
Are you serious? An advanced civilization making contact with earth would be able to persuade 90% of our population they are "god"... & that is today.. imagine ancient man.


That's what I'm saying. The aliens told us they are our creators, so atheists are calling these aliens liars while religious people believe they are telling the truth.

Who gets to say aliens weren't gods? Our ancestors had way more experience with them than we did, so I believe our ancestors more when they say they were our creators.
Yay someone on the same page aha yeah for me I'm going to believe the oldest known story of our creation rather than a story hat only came to light in the past 1000-2000 yrs, its like who u gunna believe the old wiseman or the 7yr old kid telling u the story.
 
Who's y'all? It better not be every religious person, or even every Christian. I know plenty of Christians that follow the same logic I do. The main thing I follow is to "bare good fruit", that's what I follow the most. And I wasn't taught religion as a young kid nor do I go to church. I follow god my way, so please be more specific when you say y'all.
Wen I say y'all I mean rehearsal super crazzy church people who are like all godly o I go to church so I an do nothing wrong trod of y'all, not litterally you u obviously have a mind and use it quite well
I promise no sarcasm in what I say to u lol bit u have to no who I'm talking about I'm sure you've come lacrosse people like that
 

blazinkill504

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Yup, my mind was just blown, lol.
Pretty awesome video dude. But the problem I see with it is that our ancestors called them angels, angels that helped them worship god. Obviously our ancestors knew more about angels or other unknown forces then we do today. My problem is that those archeologist are selfish enough to say our ancestors didn't know what they were talking about when they said they were angels. The archeologist say they weren't angels but ET beings, how can they be so ignorant to what our ancestors were trying to tell us. Honestly all this does is further my belief in god. The archeologist are a bunch of skeptics that aren't open minded enough to believe what the ancestors said about them being angels. I mean our ancestors drew the angels, and the angels looked very human not like some weird creature. And why do the archeologist automatically assume angels didn't have badass space crafts? I know that sounds crazy but we are talking about religion here, lol.

I'm saying what if what our ancestors were telling the truth and the archeologists are leading us astray from the truth? I would rather believe our ancestors that had alot more experience than our modern day archeologist that don't know shit.

But still awesome video, and I love seeing videos that leave more questions than answers.
i mean it coulda been angels, but why would angels need landin pads and floatin cities in order to come here? wouldnt they just have floated down from the heavens? to me aliens sounds more logical esp if they were seein ships landin and shit they would have to have a way to explain it and it makes alota sense that they would see them as god if the aliens were givin them knowledge and doin shit for them. they said back in the day when the first planes some indians saw thought they were gods and were prayin to them.
 

Hepheastus420

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Wen I say y'all I mean rehearsal super crazzy church people who are like all godly o I go to church so I an do nothing wrong trod of y'all, not litterally you u obviously have a mind and use it quite well
I promise no sarcasm in what I say to u lol bit u have to no who I'm talking about I'm sure you've come lacrosse people like that
Oh yes I have come across many of those people, they annoy me to no end. I was just hoping you weren't like some other people who just flat out think all religious people are stupid, I see you are not like them though, :).
 

Hepheastus420

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i mean it coulda been angels, but why would angels need landin pads and floatin cities in order to come here? wouldnt they just have floated down from the heavens? to me aliens sounds more logical esp if they were seein ships landin and shit they would have to have a way to explain it and it makes alota sense that they would see them as god if the aliens were givin them knowledge and doin shit for them. they said back in the day when the first planes some indians saw thought they were gods and were prayin to them.
In the drawing on one of the pictures the video showed while they were talking about the drawing they drew about the aliens visiting, it showed some lines as though something was shooting up extremely fast and left behind debris and above that it showed a picture of a human with wings. It didn't show a space craft it showed an angel. But it is strange how they drew space crafts and stuff, I'm gonna look into it. What's that show called? The one you posted.
 

Finshaggy

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Within this post^^^ me and you are on the same page. So I would like to acknowledge that.

But it also brings up another argument that god does not mean everything. But that is a whole other argument and it would not be suitable for this thread. If you wish I will debate about that over another thread specifically made for your belief or over pm. But our beliefs about what god is has nothing to do with this thread.
"God" doesn't always mean "Everything" I agree. It is also used tom describe hard to understand things. "Lightning is Zues" "Wilderness is Pan".
 

Heisenberg

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Just look at the faces on Mars, NASA has found multiple faces and sites that exactly resemble the pryamids of Giza in size and shape and positioning, ( positioned in alignement with Orion's belt, now hoe do we have real human like faces on meds and besicly the pyramids of Giza on Mars without there being somekind of intelligent life to build it? These shapes are known not to exist naturally in nature and the probability of something coming even close to resembling let alone be almost exact is like 1 to well the odd are too high to type,( its like 90000 nines) so to have a planet that is within what we call the golden zone for life and to have humanlike structure on it is evidence enough for me that there's intelligent life out there, besides that NASA has already concluded there's life besides our planet,
What&#8217;s the Truth Behind the Face on Mars?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
 
K u say they drew a human with wings flying up think of it this way birds fly, why? They have wings, now if u were an ancient t man and saw a Guy fly off with a jetpack, what would be your first thought of how he is flying or how are u going to depict a man all of a sudden shooting off the ground, your probably going to draw him with wings to relate thata he was able to fly like a bird. That's my thought, even a little kid would depict it the same way if he had no knowledge of a jetpack, or similar device
 
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