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Amaximus

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Not surprised the Yankees hit Dickey. They used to hit tim wakefield hard too.
This isn't aimed at you frog but it is really getting annoying that everyone keeps comparing Dickey to Wakefield. They're the same in that they are both knuckleballers but Wakefield never had the stuff that Dickey has. Not even close. Not the movement, not the control, not the speed. I have no idea why people keep comparing them other than the fact that wakefield was the last and most recent knucklballer.

That being said, Dickey was due. Hell, he is still due to get blown out a few times. That and the Mets will always fail verses the Yankees. The bigger the game, The more the hype, The bigger the Mets fail.

And so life continues in New York...
 

hornedfrog2000

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You can compare the fact that the player has really no idea how the ball will break, and they still seem to hit it. That being said, Dickey didn't have his best mechanics last night and you could tell because the ball was spinning way too much on the slow mo replays.
 

Amaximus

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You can compare the fact that the player has really no idea how the ball will break, and they still seem to hit it. That being said, Dickey didn't have his best mechanics last night and you could tell because the ball was spinning way too much on the slow mo replays.
That just semantics imo. They may not know where the ball is going to break but "the stuff" their pitches have are completely different. A fastball is a fastball except when one is thrown at 80mph and another is thrown at 103. Either way, it doesn't matter. Maybe I'm just irked because I'm hearing Wakefields name all day. lol.

Agreed about Dickey's mechanics. I believe when Dickey has his game on he just barely gets a single rotation from mound to plate (maybe less?) - last night it was tumbling. You could tell right from the git go things were gonna go bad.
 

hornedfrog2000

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That just semantics imo. They may not know where the ball is going to break but "the stuff" their pitches have are completely different. A fastball is a fastball except when one is thrown at 80mph and another is thrown at 103. Either way, it doesn't matter. Maybe I'm just irked because I'm hearing Wakefields name all day. lol.

Agreed about Dickey's mechanics. I believe when Dickey has his game on he just barely gets a single rotation from mound to plate (maybe less?) - last night it was tumbling. You could tell right from the git go things were gonna go bad.
Yeah, from what I understand there is supposed to only be 1/4 of a turn to the plate, up to maybe 1 full rotation. If it turns too little it wont break either, you need the threads to catch the air a little. Also from what I understand the harder you throw a good knuckle ball, the harder it will break.
 

hornedfrog2000

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I am so glad baseball is cleaned up and it's comforting to know that we are back to skill and talent instead of drugs putting on the show.
I wouldn't count on that. They just take stuff they can't test for. They make new designer steroids all the time. The only way they can catch them is testing the levels of testosterone, hgh blood tests (hgh makes you heal fast it should honestly be legal in doctors recommended dosages, the general public should be able to use it too..., it can heal tendons/ligaments.) Not to mention Marlon Byrd was just busted for taking anti estrogen meds, not steroids, you take anti estrogen pills to combat ball shrinkage, gyno/bitch tits, etc. Pretty soon they will have stuff that has a half life of like a day, so you can juice fast as hell, and be clean real fast. The NFL knows they have a real clusterfuck on their hands too. They are all on HGH, and roids. The union wouldn't allow for HGH testing, they juice 10x worse than the MLB. The fans are so blind. I remember a fan asking Goodell why he thought the MLB had so much more steroid use than the NFL, and he said I don't think that's the case - or something around there.
 

Amaximus

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Something has changed. They simply aren't all taking drugs and not getting caught. If they are then their new drugs suck because I no longer have two 70+hr guys on my fantasy teams anymore. (tongue planted in cheek)

A lot less players are either doing the drugs OR now just starting pitchers are because if it was still as rampant as it was a few years back we wouldnt be seeing the emergence of the pitcher again. Plus, except for a few select players there arent going to be a bunch of players hitting 40 or 50 HR's per season like they were.
 

hornedfrog2000

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Something has changed. They simply aren't all taking drugs and not getting caught. If they are then their new drugs suck because I no longer have two 70+hr guys on my fantasy teams anymore. (tongue planted in cheek)

A lot less players are either doing the drugs OR now just starting pitchers are because if it was still as rampant as it was a few years back we wouldnt be seeing the emergence of the pitcher again. Plus, except for a few select players there arent going to be a bunch of players hitting 40 or 50 HR's per season like they were.
Oh yeah, I'm sure it has slowed tremendously. Especially with the testing of HGH. HGH means you can spend much more time in the gym and heal faster than you would. Not to mention baseball is such a marathon that you play like basically every other day of the year, and are practicing pretty much the rest of the time-minus a couple months.
 

mccumcumber

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In San Francisco News...
Both Zito and Lincecum pitched well there last outing, hopefully that lasts cause if so... hello playoffs.
 

Amaximus

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And Dickey pitches another gem. Proving once again that regardless of how good you are, if your a Met you will always lose to the Yankees.
 

dslantic

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Any of you geniuses know if Tha Atlanta Braves have a chance to win the Eastern Division wild card? I've got a hole (no pun intended) danish 25 ore they do....The Braves really messed up last night.
 

Amaximus

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Any of you geniuses know if Tha Atlanta Braves have a chance to win the Eastern Division wild card? I've got a hole (no pun intended) danish 25 ore they do....The Braves really messed up last night.
Mathematically every team can still win. But that's avoiding the question...

The braves are currently 7 games behind Washington in the eastern conference. It is highly unlikely they will take it from Washington with only 6 weeks left in the season but stranger things have happened.

As for the wild card... The top two teams get it now... The Braves are Pirates are tied for top spot with cards and dodgers 1/2 game behind them. The d-backs are 5 games behind. So about five teams in the mix there.

So yes, They have a very good chance to get one of the two wild card spots... But it isn't quite a lock yet.
 
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