UncleBuck
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don't make kynes shift in chair.
BART Employees Strike Again Despite Earning $30,000 More Than Typical San Fran Worker
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don't make kynes shift in chair.
UncleBuck
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do you have any idea what a custodian actually does, or did they not teach you that at devryU?
What does it matter what they do?
UncleBuck
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i don't think pushing a broom is worth $80k a year.
but janitorial work is more than pushing a broom, kiddo.
some of those uppity broom pushers even dare refer to themselves as custodians or maintenance workers. the nerve!
something tells me you have never done any menial, labor intensive work. just a spoiled little shit with a degree from devryU.
"Pushing that broom" references the post I'm quoting. If you're seeing a literal suggestion that all janitors do is push brooms there, you need to turn the sensitivity down.
Janitorial work is not worth $80,000 a year, and certainly not $90,000 a year. The fact that it's not easy is unrelated to the fact that it's unskilled menial work anyone can do; it's just not worth that much, and the market would never pay that high a price. But the union is happy to do it, cutting that janitor's fat check on the backs of 400,000 people riding the trains every day.
Edit: And this is what I find so peculiar about unions. They complain about corporate greed all the time when companies refuse to make the deals they want, and yet unions are just as greedy. No amount of pay could be enough, regardless of the skill involved in the work--defeating the market and forcing the price of labor to increase is precisely the union's goal. If you're demanding to be paid at rates vastly beyond what you deserve for what you do and willing to shut an enterprise down in an effort to get what you want, aren't you greedy? If there's such a thing as a "fair share," where's the line on what that is? If you're getting money you don't deserve, aren't you guilty of doing exactly what you accuse executives of doing?
theexpress
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ur right... u might have to change a few lightbulbs and say hello and be friendly to people... maybe pick up the occasianol dog shit.....
UncleBuck
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then quotes would be appropriate.
do you even know what this "highest paid janitor" does? (<----notice how i properly used quotes there)
i bet they prefer people with lots of experience and a good track record.
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again, how do you know?
yes it does.
i bet i could name a whole lot of "lead custodians" who oversee dozens of other mere "janitors" who work for major companies who make that much. the best "janitors" don't even push a broom.
clearly, the 400,000 people demanding their service are a problem then. the market has failed!
if those people were smart, they would simply boycott and refuse to pay those greedy "janitors" for their overpaid ""broom pushing", as happens in a free market!
damn you market!
there is a union over in my neck of the woods about to boycott in part due to the "$0.10 over minimum wage" part of the deal. that $4 a week for the entry level worker is worth that much.
$4 per 40 hour week in an entry level position.
compare that to corporate greed and get back to me, kiddo.
actually, they do have a level of pay that they deem is "enough".
continue to note my proper use of quotes.
why don't these 400,000 riders just boycott the train?
hell, even blacks got their way with boycotts. what's wrong with these lazy rider?
loaded question, devryPrep.
not quite loaded questions, but rather retarded hypotheticals.
F- post.
you suck, kiddo.
UncleBuck
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theexpress
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the "janitorial" part of my job at home involves collecting eggs.
ooo yeah.... tell ur wife if she wants I can pollinate her eggz........
UncleBuck
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theexpress
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UncleBuck
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I got this brah.... u know I know the terrain better then u...
i'll be eggsploring that terrain tomorrow for the first time in a couple weeks
theexpress
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can I watch????i'll be eggsploring that terrain tomorrow for the first time in a couple weeks
UncleBuck
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theexpress
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can we tag team wifey on Skype?........... maybe get some subscribers pay for a couple bills.... make this a regular thing?
UncleBuck
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no.
meet me in san jose tomorrow and i will show you an avocado tree you can climb to glean a view.
It wasn't a quote. Do you even bother to look back before you say it?
I don't care. He's a janitor.
That wouldn't justify a premium that's a multiple of pay from people in similar jobs with similar backgrounds.
Unlike you, I actually try to look up the factual information that underpins what I say. Here's a "Senior Janitor" in San Francisco according to salary.com: http://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/Janitor-Sr-Salary-Details-San-Francisco-CA.aspx. The median salary is $35,000 a year. If you earn more than $50,000, you earn more than 90% of senior janitors in San Francisco.
The article said janitor, not "lead janitor," not "custodial manager." Do you not comprehend that you're now doing exactly what you just said I was doing? You're assuming from the amount of the salary that this person must be some kind of manager. My guess is that the highest earning "janitor" is actually just someone who's been there for 40 years and maxed out the union pay chart, but neither of us actually knows.
Fortunately, a "Custodial Manager - Casino" in San Francisco has a median salary of about $55,000, so it doesn't even matter. The rate is obviously not a market rate, even in San Francisco.
clearly, the 400,000 people demanding their service are a problem then. the market has failed!
if those people were smart, they would simply boycott and refuse to pay those greedy "janitors" for their overpaid ""broom pushing", as happens in a free market!
damn you market!
The 400,000 people using BART every day didn't demand anything from the union; they presumably despise the union as the fares perpetually rise to bankroll those fat paychecks. But the law prevents BART or the customers from doing anything about the union, which you already know. The union is a legally protected parasite that only bankruptcy can dislodge. Your talk of the market makes no sense.
Anecdotal account that has nothing to do with the factual reality of union salaries compared to non-union salaries, or the financial health of companies that use unionized labor versus the financial health that companies that don't.
Long on narrative bullshit that's not representative of the reality for most people in unions, short on facts about that reality. Typical.
No they don't. They always ask for more. Always. It never stops.
What is this level you speak of and where is the evidence that it exists?
Why would they boycott the train when the union parasite can be excised and the problem solved?
Why? Because the answer is yes and the pro-union folks don't have the heart to admit it? I have no problem admitting that most businessmen are greedy bastards, so why you can't you admit the same about your own ilk? They're greedy. They know they have a sweet deal and they're happy to milk it for all it's worth.
Substantive response as usual. The union says the executives/shareholders don't deserve the money and you are in perfect agreement with that. I say the union doesn't deserve the money--they shouldn't be able to force their employers to pay above market rates through government-protected coercion (especially striking)--and it's unthinkable?
Everyone is greedy. What's the difference between one group and the other? One group owns the company and holds all of the financial risk; the other group performs tasks that other people are perfectly capable of performing. Why should the latter set be entitled to demand more compensation than the market pays other people to do a task?
Antidisestablishmentarian
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I find it hilarious that a college drop out would try and make fun of anyone who graduated with a degree. Even from devry.
Of course the whole you went to devry is just another smear campaign from an idiot, but that's an entirely different story.
Of course the whole you went to devry is just another smear campaign from an idiot, but that's an entirely different story.
UncleBuck
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the evidence is that the strike is over
i'm not even going to address the rest of your inane drivel because it is basically you defending your assumptions about what you think the "highest paid janitor" does to earn his paycheck, you defending your assumption that the 400,000 people who demand BART's service on a daily basis hate the "union parasite" as you call it, you literally defending the use of a loaded goddamn question (seriously, it was devry, wasn't it?), and other such moronic, self-congratulating douchery.
what were you thinking last week when you touched that little boy's genitals?
