I'm not going to realize anything because I have no idea what you're talking about.
BART Employees Strike Again Despite Earning $30,000 More Than Typical San Fran Worker
- Thread starter squarepush3r
- Start date
I'm not going to realize anything because I have no idea what you're talking about.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
that's what makes it so funny, because you are acting like you do.
like i said, not very bright.
GOD HERE
Well-Known Member
I stated the base pay average of $56,000 with $10,000 overtime (these figures change slightly with different sources) which adds up to $66,000. Basic math.
For you second point about management pay being specifically excluded, apparently you didn't read the article close enough because the only mention of both employee and managerial pay says the exact opposite: "Overall, BART's average employee -- executives included made nearly $30,000 more than employees at Los Angeles' transit line".
One reason for the disproportionate wages was the BART systems unique and antiquated system which requires specially made parts and the knowledge to install them properly. Maybe Los Angeles has a lazy union?
echelon1k1
New Member
Not everyone has a rich bitch to mooch off, limited means...
GOD HERE
Well-Known Member
echelon1k1
New Member
Due to your avatar, political views, and attitude this is how I picture you:
KP rocks - thanks for the compliment... I would put up a picture of how I see you, but who wants to see a marxist tongue kissing obamas peehole? Buck is enough thank you...
GOD HERE
Well-Known Member
Well that just reinforced my hunch, considering this is the abrasive actor with a perpetual mullet who plays a disabled hick.
What's a marxist again E-fag?
echelon1k1
New Member
A perfect snapshot of American culture; overly represented on this board, designed to elicits responses from morons like you... Thanks for playing doc...
E-Fag? What ever happened to "socialism not being homophobic"...
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
considering the power of the BART union, all of SF should Prepare Themselves For A Rough Ride.
GOD HERE
Well-Known Member
considering the power of the BART union, all of SF should Prepare Themselves For A Rough Ride.
Do you want me to make that my title?
No, evidently you didn't read the article. "And the results are not close. Even when eliminating high-paid police officers and executives, the average gross pay for the blue-collar BART union workers who are threatening another shutdown was $76,551 last year..." This is what you quoted: "Overall, BART's average employee -- executives included -- made nearly $30,000 more than employees at Los Angeles' transit line, and nearly $10,000 more than those at San Francisco Muni, the state's second-highest paid transit workers." Totally distinct. The first statement is about how much an average worker makes, excluding management; the second statement is about how BART salaries, including management, compare to salaries of other transportation workers.
Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
Which side is guilty of taking money from the public, whether the public wants to do it or not?
Red1966
Well-Known Member
Few of the workers are maintenance workers, and many of those just push a broom. Increasing wages because of "the local high cost of living" is what drives "the local high cost of living". If you choose to live in an area because of the weather, or local political climate, or whatever, doesn't imply that you should get paid more. Even using your figures, the pay and benefits are fair. But fairness isn't a factor when you can hold the public hostage and shut down the city.
BART's highest paid janitor brings home $82,000 a year for pushing that broom.
Red1966
Well-Known Member
I saw CNC machinist's jobs listed in San Diego at $26.00 an hour. That's $54,000 a year in an area that may compare with SF??? $82,000 a year is way too much for a job that requires no skill. There's a forklift driver at GM who makes over $200,000 a year, including overtime. If he's not dead. He was in his 70's. Donates his entire check to some college. Gets to draw SS. Pays not 1 cent in income tax.
yes, yes...
the problem here is a bunch of hard-working americans are taking home good pay for honest work.
we can't have that... no no nooo... that's a big problem.... we need to cut their pay and obliterate their benefits... no better way to improve a cities economy than by taking away a couple thousand workers' steady, reliable, honest, well-paying work... makes sense...
the problem here is a bunch of hard-working americans are taking home good pay for honest work.
we can't have that... no no nooo... that's a big problem.... we need to cut their pay and obliterate their benefits... no better way to improve a cities economy than by taking away a couple thousand workers' steady, reliable, honest, well-paying work... makes sense...
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
We really need to do away with minimum wage and let the free market decide our worth.
Alas, money doesn't magically appear. Where is that good living that you speak of coming from? The 400,000 people who use BART every single day. Why should 400,000 people have to pay inflated transit prices so that 2,000 unionized workers can enjoy substantially above market livings for their skills? Why should 400,000 people have their transit system held hostage by a greedy union that won't accept any answer other than "Substantially more!"
In this case, the union rejected a raise of 3% a year for the next 4 years. That janitor I mentioned is going to jump from $82,000 a year to $92,000 a year, but evidently that just wasn't enough.
