Barneys Blue Cheese 1st grow (week1 flower)

trulojik · Oct 5, 2009

so iv been readin alot of journals recently and i thought its about time i made my own!!

im not much of a talker...or shud i say typa so il keep it short

this is my first eva grow so please any advice and/or feedback is welcome

i hav 10 barneys'blue cheese out of which 2 are still in veg because they r like a 3rd of the height to the other 8!!
does any1 know y this is????

so my 8 flowering plants are under a 600w HPS

i dont really kno what other kind of info im supposed to add so jus ask me and i will tell u
i hav added a few pictures to bring u all up 2 date
the last 2 pictures are of the runts.. i have kept them in veg still because of ther size!!

am i doin ok for my 1st grow????

Dayzt · Oct 6, 2009

Hey tru... subscribing to your new journal - looks really good so far!! As for the 2 slow ones... it really could just be the pheno - genetics can cause some seeds to just grow slower and maybe even ultimately turn out to be shorter than the others. I wouldn't worry too much - the extra veg time for them may or may not help, but it doesn't hurt either. My first grow had a slow blue-cheese plant too - it was shorter than the others for most of the grow but then it took off in the flowering phase and even caught up to the others by the end. Barneys' genetics are really good - don't worry too much about a few being shorter at this poing. Flowering can cause plants to double and even triple in size!

In my second grow, I even tried some LST on my blue-cheese. It worked okay, but I could have done more and had even more tops if I had to room - the bath-tub isn't quite big enough to do that much LSTing with 6 females in there!!

guitarman7311 · Oct 6, 2009

Dude how big are those pots. Your roots need at least a 5 gallon bucket or they wont grow as big as they could. Looks like to me your roots have run out of room to grow. Change to a bigger pot and use different soil mixture if possible. Hey your welcome..

trulojik · Oct 6, 2009

thanx dayzt im sorry if this is a stupid question but what duz 'pheno' mean??
and i am doin lst on the 2 little runts if u look at the last 2 pix u can kinda c it.

yes yes guitarman nyc of u to drop by and thanx for the info...
i was kinda thinkin that was th case but i told a grower friend that i cud c roots all out the bottom of my pots and he told me that ment they wer healthy??

i dont actually have any bigger pots at the moment or the money to buy any for that matter!!
i am unemployed for the tym being and i put all my eggs in to this basket unfortunatley!!

\any suggestions?
do u think they will survive them pots tilll harvest???

thanx again in advance.

bigbrew · Oct 6, 2009

The small pots are fine. The plant's growth potential is dependent upon the size of the pot, among other things. The plant wont die, it will just not get as big as it could.

And a phenotype is simply the characteristics of the plant. For example if you have 10 blue cheese and 8 are tall and lanky and 2 are short and squatty, you have 2 phenotypes. The lanky pheno and the squatty pheno. It is helpful when trying to predict how a plant is going to grow so you can adapt your space accordingly.

trulojik · Oct 6, 2009

bigbrew said:
The small pots are fine. The plant's growth potential is dependent upon the size of the pot, among other things. The plant wont die, it will just not get as big as it could.

And a phenotype is simply the characteristics of the plant. For example if you have 10 blue cheese and 8 are tall and lanky and 2 are short and squatty, you have 2 phenotypes. The lanky pheno and the squatty pheno. It is helpful when trying to predict how a plant is going to grow so you can adapt your space accordingly.

thanx alot for that 'big b' but wud that also mean less yield??
and if i tuk clones from the short phenos would that mean all the cuttings wud b short??
or cud it possibly grow lanky again?

i quite like th idea of small plants ... less hassle but i need yield so if a short plant effects that i wud rather not!

cappeeler09 · Oct 6, 2009

ther lookin decent brother

trulojik · Oct 6, 2009

cappeeler09 said:
ther lookin decent brother

thanx alot cap
i will b more than happy if they turn out anything like yours!

guitarzan420 · Oct 6, 2009

no the pheno type stays what it is. they will yield more in bigger pots but you can lst and top for max yield with what you have.

trulojik · Oct 6, 2009

th thing is tho if u luk at th pickaz ul notice that if i try any kind of lst alot of th pups will b out of the light zone, if that makes sense!!

i wanna cova the entrance somehow but im really thick wen it cumz to stuf like that..im not jokin cuz.
also i am broke as a joke at the moment so if any 1 has any ideas i wud appreciate it.

(Butters) · Oct 6, 2009

They're looking great tru!

Yes, the smaller pot size will restrict plant size which in turn will decrease yield. And being broke will effect your ability to increase pot size which will in turn effect plant size which then decreases yield :shock:

But no worries. If you got a paint bucket or any similarly shaped container that you don't mind using that's bigger (say about 3-5 gallons), you can use that. Home depot has 3 gallon paint buckets for about $3 if need be. With your 600watter, you definitely don't want a minor detail like rez-size in pots to get in the way of the great set up you have going on. ;-)

I can see why you're considering scrog for the next round. You really wouldn't have to change a thing but adding a screen about them. At the right height, it won't matter if you have short plants or tall plans....the screen will level that particular playing field. Sounds like a great idea for what you got bro.
:clap:

-Butters

trulojik · Oct 7, 2009

(Butters) said:
They're looking great tru!

Yes, the smaller pot size will restrict plant size which in turn will decrease yield. And being broke will effect your ability to increase pot size which will in turn effect plant size which then decreases yield

But no worries. If you got a paint bucket or any similarly shaped container that you don't mind using that's bigger (say about 3-5 gallons), you can use that. Home depot has 3 gallon paint buckets for about $3 if need be. With your 600watter, you definitely don't want a minor detail like rez-size in pots to get in the way of the great set up you have going on.

I can see why you're considering scrog for the next round. You really wouldn't have to change a thing but adding a screen about them. At the right height, it won't matter if you have short plants or tall plans....the screen will level that particular playing field. Sounds like a great idea for what you got bro.

-Butters

the 1st ting im gonna do 2moro is do something about these pots no matter wat.

u r ryt such a minor detail should not affect my grow
.

trulojik · Oct 7, 2009

ps.
does any1 kno wat is rong with my clone??
they r the last 2 out of 9!!
1 has a cup of roots
and the otha has a few wich hav not broke th rockwool yet... i kno this because i had a cheeky little look!!

trulojik · Oct 8, 2009

ok so iv binn told the clones r not gettin enuff oxygen so iv took off th lid on the incubator 2day... we will c wat happens!

i hav also started a little SCROG on 2 of vegging BBC'S, they r 7 weeks old... i kno i hav started late but its jus an experiment so again we shal c wat hapens!!

and 2day i checked my calendar and realised that it has been 2 weeks since i started 12/12 and my plants dont really look any different...why is this?

i was told they cud be rootbound so 2day i bought more pots and jus dubl potted all plants xcept 3 jus 2 c the difference..

also i had to move the plants in a rush rufly a day after i started 12/12 due 2 fukin snitches..!! cud it b th shock of the move that slowed/stunted the growth of my babies??

please some1 help me.

ps. im sorry bout the pix...the iphone has a really shit camera!!

p.p.s
i kno my screen is not really a screen but like i sed this jus to c wat happens.

Dayzt · Oct 8, 2009

heya tru. Ya that sounds like you might need to wait a few more days to let those girlz bounce back from some shock - that and the fact that they may take bit longer to adjust to the new light cycle coudl be slowing them down.... also, how hot is it in the flowering room? Excessive heat during flowering can cause them to be slow as well.

trulojik · Oct 8, 2009

i dont know anything about heat, humidity, ph or any of that!!

im jus playin it by ear!

a growa frend told me that i hav been very lucky in that respect!!

i dont really feed em any nutes eitha jus water annd canna flores every otha feed!!

Baggins · Oct 9, 2009

Hi tru!! it would be worth investing in a hygro/thermo meter!! it tells you the temp and the humidity but more important in my eyes it will tell you the highest and lowest temp/hum through out the day etc!! there not expensive and will save you headaches later on!!
I have just started week 2 of flower on my first grow and they look good so far!!(check out my grow!! I started with 1 Barneys Blue Cheese fem and also 5 Barneys Nightshade fem)

If i can help in any way, then plz just give me a shout and i will try my best, but im also a new grower and learning just like you!!!

Good luck Tru!!!

(Butters) · Oct 9, 2009

Loving that ghetto-ass screen dude! :mrgreen:

Now, as the colas get about a 1/2" above the screen, just pull it back under and move it one to the left/right and you'll have a nice even canopy going in no time. You'll probably have to do this like every 2 days.

You NEED to know temp and humidity. At the very least the temp (that's a little easier to control if it's outt whack). The one I have is from Walmart and was under $5. Just a simple digital thermometer with humidity readout. Doesn't give the High and Low readings though and that is a nice piece of info to have.

-Butters :bigjoint:

trulojik · Oct 9, 2009

thanx 2 baggins and butters... especially butters coz uv helped me alot so far mate.
i think im gonna have to invest in a thermo/hygrometre...!

i have anotha issue...
2day i was workin on my pups wylst blazin and i got really high and ended up letting alot of light on 2 my 12/12'z for like 20mins max until i finally realised and corrected it.

what i need to kno is wud that much light be enuff to send em bak in2 veg??

and how can u tell?

thanx .

i will update with pikchaz wen ther is sum change.

sum1 plz help with my light leak issue.!

Dayzt · Oct 9, 2009

You shouldn't have too much to worry about - just make sure they're back in their 12/12 cycle. A few things that may happen from the 'light leak' is a possible growth shock (slight slow-down) as well as some freakish looking leaves.... those are things i've heard of resulting from light changes in the flowering cycle.

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