Bad week for Israel

socalcoolmx

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funny how any talk of israel always wind up with clowns like you screaming that they are illegitimate, and the pallies are right to insist that all the jews be pushed into the sea.

i guess thats what you consider "rational"
Here is a perfect example of but hurt american, are you ready for US and aparthied Israel against the world

palestine israel conflict needs to be addressed now, we need to push for it, Israel does not want peace, they want to steal all the palestinians land.

2 state back to 67 borders
1 state make constitution allow all palistinians equal citizenship and be like US a mix of peoples living equal
 

ttystikk

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People here can't talk about Israel without getting butt hurt so they hurry to go of topic
americans are so full of propoganda they can't discuss Israel rationally
they will wake up one day but it will be to late
Tell it. Trouble is, nobody is listening.
 

Dr Kynes

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Here is a perfect example of but hurt american, are you ready for US and aparthied Israel against the world

palestine israel conflict needs to be addressed now, we need to push for it, Israel does not want peace, they want to steal all the palestinians land.

2 state back to 67 borders
1 state make constitution allow all palistinians equal citizenship and be like US a mix of peoples living equal
what you REALLY mean is, Israel should be 1 state using the pre1948 borders, and the jews should return to their original homes in auschwitsz and buchenwald.

the pallies have made their position clear, they are led by Fatah and Hamas, both of which have a firm position on the proper place for all jews, to whit, a crematoria.

nobody believes your "anti-zionist, not anti-jew" nonsense, its as phony from you as it is from ayatollah khamenei (no relation) .
 

Jimdamick

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If Americans aren't feed up with Israel by now, they never will be. You know why? Because your average American is without a doubt a stupid fuck (just elected a lot of Republicans). We think we are fucking smart, and that just shows how stupid we are. Just read the newspapers in Europe, an area that beats the US hands down in almost every measurement of anything, except criminals and poverty. Europe looks at the Palestinians as an abused people, who are really refugees in their own land, whereas in the US they are simply terrorists Point being made is that most of the world thinks that the Palestinians are getting fucked over. But not here? Why? Because the average American is a brainwashed fool that can't think for themselves, because they are too fucking dumb Go ahead look it up. Students and the average individual in the EU are SMARTER ANDD BETTER EDUCATED, than their stupid American counterpart. So, that's the only thing that I can see (besides being Jewish) to explain why Americans support that bucket of shit called Israel, no matter what they do Just think of the billions and billions and billions of dollars we have wasted on Israel. Think about how all of that money could have been injected into OUR economy to provide jobs by repairing all the shit that is falling down around us. Nope, let's just give it all away to Israel, so they can repair their infrastructure, build illegal settlements, and reinforce Muslim hatred for the US. How fucking stupid is that.
 

schuylaar

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If Americans aren't feed up with Israel by now, they never will be. You know why? Because your average American is without a doubt a stupid fuck (just elected a lot of Republicans). We think we are fucking smart, and that just shows how stupid we are. Just read the newspapers in Europe, an area that beats the US hands down in almost every measurement of anything, except criminals and poverty. Europe looks at the Palestinians as an abused people, who are really refugees in their own land, whereas in the US they are simply terrorists Point being made is that most of the world thinks that the Palestinians are getting fucked over. But not here? Why? Because the average American is a brainwashed fool that can't think for themselves, because they are too fucking dumb Go ahead look it up. Students and the average individual in the EU are SMARTER ANDD BETTER EDUCATED, than their stupid American counterpart. So, that's the only thing that I can see (besides being Jewish) to explain why Americans support that bucket of shit called Israel, no matter what they do Just think of the billions and billions and billions of dollars we have wasted on Israel. Think about how all of that money could have been injected into OUR economy to provide jobs by repairing all the shit that is falling down around us. Nope, let's just give it all away to Israel, so they can repair their infrastructure, build illegal settlements, and reinforce Muslim hatred for the US. How fucking stupid is that.
but aren't palestinians arab?
 

Jimdamick

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what you REALLY mean is, Israel should be 1 state using the pre1948 borders, and the jews should return to their original homes in auschwitsz and buchenwald.

the pallies have made their position clear, they are led by Fatah and Hamas, both of which have a firm position on the proper place for all jews, to whit, a crematoria.

nobody believes your "anti-zionist, not anti-jew" nonsense, its as phony from you as it is from ayatollah khamenei (no relation) .
Their original homes sure as shit weren't in Palestine, unless you go back 3000 years, and I think those deeds have run out. The vast majority of the world believes Israel is wrong. So who is right? One thing that is definitely going to increase is the BDS movement, then we'll see how Israel reacts to the increasing isolation, both economically and socially.
 

ttystikk

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If Americans aren't feed up with Israel by now, they never will be. You know why? Because your average American is without a doubt a stupid fuck (just elected a lot of Republicans). We think we are fucking smart, and that just shows how stupid we are. Just read the newspapers in Europe, an area that beats the US hands down in almost every measurement of anything, except criminals and poverty. Europe looks at the Palestinians as an abused people, who are really refugees in their own land, whereas in the US they are simply terrorists Point being made is that most of the world thinks that the Palestinians are getting fucked over. But not here? Why? Because the average American is a brainwashed fool that can't think for themselves, because they are too fucking dumb Go ahead look it up. Students and the average individual in the EU are SMARTER ANDD BETTER EDUCATED, than their stupid American counterpart. So, that's the only thing that I can see (besides being Jewish) to explain why Americans support that bucket of shit called Israel, no matter what they do Just think of the billions and billions and billions of dollars we have wasted on Israel. Think about how all of that money could have been injected into OUR economy to provide jobs by repairing all the shit that is falling down around us. Nope, let's just give it all away to Israel, so they can repair their infrastructure, build illegal settlements, and reinforce Muslim hatred for the US. How fucking stupid is that.
This is a pretty accurate assessment of the American electorate. We're fucked.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Their original homes sure as shit weren't in Palestine, unless you go back 3000 years, and I think those deeds have run out. The vast majority of the world believes Israel is wrong. So who is right? One thing that is definitely going to increase is the BDS movement, then we'll see how Israel reacts to the increasing isolation, both economically and socially.
Nah, won't happen, at least not in the current political climate.

As you said so astutely in your post above, the average American voter is too stupid to realize how they've been manipulated.

The weirdness goes deeper, however; the US federal government is almost totally republican; just like gaining power in China requires one to be communist.

They have each other so brainwashed that they seriously believe Israel's insistence that they're just innocent victims. Despicable.
 

theexpress

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what you REALLY mean is, Israel should be 1 state using the pre1948 borders, and the jews should return to their original homes in auschwitsz and buchenwald.

the pallies have made their position clear, they are led by Fatah and Hamas, both of which have a firm position on the proper place for all jews, to whit, a crematoria.

nobody believes your "anti-zionist, not anti-jew" nonsense, its as phony from you as it is from ayatollah khamenei (no relation) .
if it was up to me id wipe out urcountry men and build a state of the art race track for camel racing
 

socalcoolmx

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what you REALLY mean is, Israel should be 1 state using the pre1948 borders, and the jews should return to their original homes in auschwitsz and buchenwald.

the pallies have made their position clear, they are led by Fatah and Hamas, both of which have a firm position on the proper place for all jews, to whit, a crematoria.

nobody believes your "anti-zionist, not anti-jew" nonsense, its as phony from you as it is from ayatollah khamenei (no relation) .
Who has the right to this land ? A Palestinian who's family has lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years or Woody Allen.
 

Dr Kynes

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Who has the right to this land ? A Palestinian who's family has lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years or Woody Allen.
i dunno, who has the right to that land?

the guys who BOUGHT it from the arab owners?

or the squatters who rushed in, set up some rude huts and claimed "Ancestral Rights" which are utterly false as proved by the Peel commission and the Hope Simpson commission reports?

jews have lived in that land for THOUSANDS of years through oppression ,through pogrom and through dhimmi status in their own homes, the other side are arabs from all over the moslem world who simply CLAIM they lived there, when in fact they did not.

the land of israel was bought and paid for from the actual owners of that land when the jews had a chance to get it back, and they paid Top Drachma for land that was deemed almost worthless by the owners at the time.
the few actual arab residents of israel at that time were Feyadeen peasants, tenant herders and farmers who DID NOT OWN THE LAND they lived on, and there were damned few of them as well. the entire levant was pretty much an empty wasteland which is why the ottoman empire gave it up so readily as a concession at the end of ww1.

when the british mandate declared that the levant was going to become a jewish homeland, the actual owners of privately owned property (which was a small % of the area) sold it, and when a property gets sold, tenants have no right to continue occupancy. the larger potion of the levant was "State Property" wholly owned by the Ottomans, and when they gave it to the brits it became property of the British Crown, until the Brits in fact gave some of it and sold the remainder to the jewish zionist organization. the entirtety of Ottoman State porperty (later British Crown property) and nearly 100% of the privately owned land in israel became the property of the jewish zionist organization, several smaller groups of jews as well as some private jewish owners.

when israel declared itself a state, after the arab attempts to seize and annex the jews' duly and properly owned land, israel became a sovereign state.

the territory which is actually israel (not the occupied territories) is not "apartheid, it is not a racist state, and arab moslem citizens make up 20% of the population. they get to vote, they have members in the knesset, supreme court judges, heads of the IDF and national police force, etc etc etc.


meanwhile the "palestinian authroity" is still run by Fatah and Hamas, terrorist organizations which remain dedicated to the elimination of israel, while israel has bent over backwards to create a pallie state, but the pallies have repeatedly refused unless their state includes israel.

so unfortunately for your narrative, the answer to your idiotic non-question is in fact, Woody Allen.
 

socalcoolmx

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i dunno, who has the right to that land?

the guys who BOUGHT it from the arab owners?

or the squatters who rushed in, set up some rude huts and claimed "Ancestral Rights" which are utterly false as proved by the Peel commission and the Hope Simpson commission reports?

jews have lived in that land for THOUSANDS of years through oppression ,through pogrom and through dhimmi status in their own homes, the other side are arabs from all over the moslem world who simply CLAIM they lived there, when in fact they did not.

the land of israel was bought and paid for from the actual owners of that land when the jews had a chance to get it back, and they paid Top Drachma for land that was deemed almost worthless by the owners at the time.
the few actual arab residents of israel at that time were Feyadeen peasants, tenant herders and farmers who DID NOT OWN THE LAND they lived on, and there were damned few of them as well. the entire levant was pretty much an empty wasteland which is why the ottoman empire gave it up so readily as a concession at the end of ww1.

when the british mandate declared that the levant was going to become a jewish homeland, the actual owners of privately owned property (which was a small % of the area) sold it, and when a property gets sold, tenants have no right to continue occupancy. the larger potion of the levant was "State Property" wholly owned by the Ottomans, and when they gave it to the brits it became property of the British Crown, until the Brits in fact gave some of it and sold the remainder to the jewish zionist organization. the entirtety of Ottoman State porperty (later British Crown property) and nearly 100% of the privately owned land in israel became the property of the jewish zionist organization, several smaller groups of jews as well as some private jewish owners.

when israel declared itself a state, after the arab attempts to seize and annex the jews' duly and properly owned land, israel became a sovereign state.

the territory which is actually israel (not the occupied territories) is not "apartheid, it is not a racist state, and arab moslem citizens make up 20% of the population. they get to vote, they have members in the knesset, supreme court judges, heads of the IDF and national police force, etc etc etc.


meanwhile the "palestinian authroity" is still run by Fatah and Hamas, terrorist organizations which remain dedicated to the elimination of israel, while israel has bent over backwards to create a pallie state, but the pallies have repeatedly refused unless their state includes israel.

so unfortunately for your narrative, the answer to your idiotic non-question is in fact, Woody Allen.
At least you finally acknowledge who are the real owners of the land. Before 1948 the Jews purchase land from the Arabs, but now they are just stealing land.
 

Dr Kynes

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At least you finally acknowledge who are the real owners of the land. Before 1948 the Jews purchase land from the Arabs, but now they are just stealing land.
Typically Retarded.

last time i told you this same shit, you claimed it was all lies, now you are attempting to somehow pretend that you knew the truth all along, despite your claims of israeli "land stealing" and insistence that the pallies are all descendants of the ancient inhabitants of the levant.

now you wish to subsume the facts into your narrative, while twisting that narrative into a whole new story about how Das Juden didnt steal land previously, it's their CURRENT land-stealing that's the issue.

the "Occupied Territory" of the West Bank WAS part of the british mandate, the brits DID promise that land (British Crown Property) to the Zionist Organization but then violated their own promise AFTER jews had bought out the few arab landholders on the west bank.


the West Bank was supposed to be part of israel, but instead the brits gave that shit to the newly invented ancient and noble hashemite kingdom of Jordan

when Jordan invaded in 48 and got their asses handed to them, the West Bank was taken by the jews, and claimed as the spoils of war.

the jews GAVE IT BACK to jordan in exchange for the promise of peace, then Jordan immediately double crossed the jews and joined another arab league Blanket Party against israel, and they AGAIN got paddled.

israel offered the West bank back to jordan in exchange for peace, and this time jordan accepted the peace, but refused to take back the West Bank, knowing it would be a tar baby, ensuring discontent forever.

the jews have built settlements on STATE PROPERTY in the West Bank, since they are stuck with it, and every one of the "Illegal Settlements" in the West Bank is in fact a shantytown erected by PALLIES in another doomed attempt to claim "Ancestral Rights"
 

socalcoolmx

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When the first zionist Jews arrived in Palestine they where very humble and good neighbors. Later when there was enough Jews to organize and go foward with the plan to take over the land, that was the zionist plan and it worked. The zionist where also hard at work in Washington working on Truman

Do you know of Security Council resolution 242 ?

Israel has become a criminal state and most likely will be sanctioned, just like Iran. I think 2015 is going to be a bad year for Israel

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