Awkward Earth Juice Situation

I have been using Earth Juice for a while now, and mainly just because I am trying to use up my supply to switch to something else. Every time I use it the leave start to turn yellow and the plant begins to show signs of a nitrogen deficiency. I bought a soil meter, and the meter reads "Very Low" for the nutrients in the soil. I have tried using EJ at the extra-strong level according to the bottle, and I have even doubled that in an act of desperation. The same problems still continue. The plant is only alive because when things got real bad I was about to use some chemicals to save it. I would prefer to grow organically but I have had nothing but problems. Is there something I am doing wrong, or is EJ just a bad product? The pH of the soil is perfect. Just something about the nutrients. Any help would be very, very much appreciated. I am growing in soil. Thank you.

Sounds like you've been over-feeding. Cannabis does better with 1/2-1/4 what most bottles say you should use.

Are the tips of the leaves affected most? If so, they've been over-fed. Flush (water with 3x what the container can hold) and back off on the nutrients from now on.

Just which EJ's and it what combo or ?

What are you doing for soil.

EJ is good stuff, but does have its own learning curve.

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i dont go above 1/2 strength with earth juice, and sometimes a few low feeders still burn. you are feeding WAY too much.

i also understand your pain. just had to buy another bottle of veg to try and finish of my line.

switching to super soil after everything is gone. may keep micro, meta-k, and catalyst around though. for minor nute adjustments.

Do you ever feed ACT? I was having similar problems for a while but they went away after I started on tea once a week.

I am currently using Grow, Bloom, Catalyst, and Microblast. My question is, how can I be over feeding yet the soil meter still read very low nutrients? Is it because the meter is set up for chemicals or something? My smaller plant that is still in veg mode got a diluted does about a week ago and the leaves have started to turn yellow.

I use EJ exclusively, i always go with the heavy feeding recommended amount.

I never really have any problems, ive never had the usual tell signs of tips burning, i get a bit of leaf curling but that means you are pushing boundaries not overfeeding.

Have you tried brewing your EJ? it works better if you make it into a tea not just straight water it in.

also to your other question, organic nutrients arent as easy to measure as chemical, thats probably why your meter says low, they show lower PPM than they are.

BreadTruck said:

I use EJ exclusively, i always go with the heavy feeding recommended amount.

I never really have any problems, ive never had the usual tell signs of tips burning, i get a bit of leaf curling but that means you are pushing boundaries not overfeeding.

Have you tried brewing your EJ? it works better if you make it into a tea not just straight water it in.

also to your other question, organic nutrients arent as easy to measure as chemical, thats probably why your meter says low, they show lower PPM than they are.

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question. do you mix/shake the bottle thoroughly before mixing your nutes?

i brew mine as well, but cannot feed more than 1/2 str, other than my super silver.

are you inoculated your soil? organics dont work as well if you do not have a good microbial life in your soil. they break down the nutrients so the plant cant use them. in basic terms

coolguysean280 said:

My question is, how can I be over feeding yet the soil meter still read very low nutrients?

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Those things don't work. I don't know why they don't, I just know you cannot trust those things.

Use a TDS meter to measure the EC of the runoff after you water/feed.

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I shake the bottle vigorously before using it, i dont brew it alot i used to but ive become lazy with it, just mix it and feed.

Earth Juice is a great product... The best results I had when using it is bubbling it as I would an AACT. I mixed earthworm castings, some kelp meal and their Catalyst and would bubble for 24-48 hours or when the PH was between 5.8-6.2.. . Also- "An PPM/EC meter has fewer applications for a soil grower because many organic nutrients are not electrically charged or are inert. Meters can only measure electrically charged salts in solution." best of luck.

Guys, I was wondering, those with heavy experience with EJ, I am currently using EJ Grow, I was wondering what the average PPM is for 1 tablespoon per gallon? I only have Grow and Bloom because fuck money. I'll get the whole line next grow, but its like I can never get a consistent ppm reading, I do, but how many tablespoons to a gallon to break the 1,000 ppm mark? I was also wondering the ppm for Bloom. I know its normal for leaves to yellow and fall off from the bottom, but I feel like the rate they're going should be slower, I feel like Im under-feeding but I can't get the right measurements. I'm going insane experimenting with brewing it's killing my cheap wallet.

Macto said:

Guys, I was wondering, those with heavy experience with EJ, I am currently using EJ Grow, I was wondering what the average PPM is for 1 tablespoon per gallon? I only have Grow and Bloom because fuck money. I'll get the whole line next grow, but its like I can never get a consistent ppm reading, I do, but how many tablespoons to a gallon to break the 1,000 ppm mark? I was also wondering the ppm for Bloom. I know its normal for leaves to yellow and fall off from the bottom, but I feel like the rate they're going should be slower, I feel like Im under-feeding but I can't get the right measurements. I'm going insane experimenting with brewing it's killing my cheap wallet.

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Ppm is a useless measurement when growing organically. We are not dealing with dissolved solids or fertilizer salts which can be consistently quantified with a TDS/EC/ppm meter, we are dealing with nutritious raw organic ingredients fed to soil microbiology. The composition of these organic ingredients is constantly changing as they are processed by microbes; this is why you get inconsistent readings, etc, etc. When you wrap your head around that, organic gardening starts to make a lot more sense.

Heathly plants are just a byproduct of healthy soil.