Avoiding the question

heckler73

Well-Known Member
Do they utilize offensive force or defensive force?

Also, you are comparing two different things when you compare a government regulated market and an actual free market. They are not the same thing.

No, rational self interest is not based in greed. Greed is what occurs when a single authoritarian model prevents other competitors from even existing. That is what occurs now.

Self interest can, and often is based in serving your interests without trampling on others rights to do the same. In fact in a free market exchange, BOTH parties serve their self interests or they wouldn't have engaged in the free market trade, where both parties enter into a trade and both are satisfied with the outcome.

Curious...did you read what I had suggested? If you did thank you. If not, you might want to.
Madame Speaker,

Once again, the member opposite has demonstrated a lack of understanding of his own "guiding principles". If the nature of contention is over the subject of force, how is it the member opposite can now support the implementation of force in seeking remedy of contractual dispute while dismissing its application as it exists at present? Clearly, the member's argument is a complete non sequitur.

I see no rationale for continuing this debate into a 2nd reading of the bill. It has been shown to be erroneous in conception, notwithstanding the problems associated with application. I would suggest this motion be put to rest and the House resumes its scheduled deliberation on the matter regarding the incarceration of Sasquatches.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Are you advocating for a single coercive based monopoly to be the sole arbiter of disputes, "Anarchist" ?

Are you saying that a person that has an allegiance to the state is the best person to arbitrate a dispute?
No.

But thanks for admitting that Anarchocapitalism only seeks to privatize the functions of state.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
Get a dictionary and ask a lawyer.
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
So what is property and who can own it?
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
Yeah but what is property and who can own it?
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
Also, you never answered the question of what is property and who can own it?
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
Don't forget to tell us what is property and who can own it.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
Also, what is property and who can own it?
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Even better, let's ask a law dictionary :lol:

property
n. anything that is owned by a person or entity. Property is divided into two types: "real property" which is any interest in land, real estate, growing plants or the improvements on it, and "personal property" (sometimes called "personalty") which is everything else. "Common property" is ownership by more than one person of the same possession. "Community property" is a form of joint ownership between husband and wife recognized in several states. "Separate property" is property owned by one spouse only in a community property state, or a married woman's sole ownership in some states. "Public property," refers to ownership by a governmental body such as the federal, state, county or city governments or their agencies (e.g. school or redevelopment districts). The government, and, in particular, the courts are obligated to protect property rights and to help clarify ownership. (See: real property, personal property, personalty, common property, community property, separate property, public property)

Burton’s Legal Thesaurus, 4E. S.v. "property." Retrieved April 21 2015 from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/property
One more thing, what is property and who can own it?
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Read a book...from the VonWheezis Institute of higher lurnin
Den you's will know all, yessuh...
I would rather read the magazines that the Jehovah's witnesses try to hand out door to door.

I would rather read the fine print on a contract for a one day insurance policy for a rental car.

I would rather read a transcript of the acceptance speech by a newly elected student body president at a junior high school.

I would rather read the nutritional information on the label of a bag of cough drops.

I would rather read max420thc's latest dumptruck of stupid.

I would rather read the dating profile of a cheetoh fingered, fedora wearing neckbeard who is obsessed with My Little Pony.

I would rather read a text message from my hyper religious cousin.

I would rather read Ayn Rand's letter to a column about cats.

I would rather read Bill O'Reilly's autobiography.

I would rather read a suicide note finger painted with shit in Sanskrit on a mirror.

I would rather read Dr Kynes' latest manifesto.
 

heckler73

Well-Known Member
I would rather read the dating profile of a cheetoh fingered, fedora wearing neckbeard who is obsessed with My Little Pony.

I would rather read Ayn Rand's letter to a column about cats.

I would rather read Dr Kynes' latest manifesto.

I agree with those. It wasn't the worst 11 pages I've read, though (pick 11 pages out of Human Action, and I guarantee they will be worse). However, the flaws are evident from the beginning. I honestly can't figure out why this stuff still has traction anywhere. These "acolytes" of libertarian economics never seem to learn the importance of empiricism, probably because numbers scare them.
 

reddan1981

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a tiresomely contentious person who likes to argue for the sake of arguing>
Synonyms contentious, controversial, disputatious, polemical (also polemic), quarrelsome, scrappy

Related Words aggressive, bellicose, belligerent, combative, gladiatorial, militant, pugnacious, truculent, warlike; feisty, fractious, surly; balky, contrary, ornery, perverse, restive, wayward; disobedient, froward, insubordinate, intractable, recalcitrant, refractory; hardheaded, headstrong, mulish, obdurate, obstinate, pigheaded, resistant, self-opinionated, self-willed, stubborn, unbending, uncompromising, uncooperative, unreasonable, unyielding, willful (or wilful); acidic, bearish, bilious, cantankerous, captious, choleric, crabby, cranky, cross, disagreeable, dyspeptic, fretful, grouchy, grumpy, huffy, ill-humored, ill-natured, ill-tempered, irascible, irritable, peevish, pettish, petulant, querulous, rude, snappish, snappy, splenetic, testy, touchy, waspish; battling, fighting, warring
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
a tiresomely contentious person who likes to argue for the sake of arguing>
Synonyms contentious, controversial, disputatious, polemical (also polemic), quarrelsome, scrappy

Related Words aggressive, bellicose, belligerent, combative, gladiatorial, militant, pugnacious, truculent, warlike; feisty, fractious, surly; balky, contrary, ornery, perverse, restive, wayward; disobedient, froward, insubordinate, intractable, recalcitrant, refractory; hardheaded, headstrong, mulish, obdurate, obstinate, pigheaded, resistant, self-opinionated, self-willed, stubborn, unbending, uncompromising, uncooperative, unreasonable, unyielding, willful (or wilful); acidic, bearish, bilious, cantankerous, captious, choleric, crabby, cranky, cross, disagreeable, dyspeptic, fretful, grouchy, grumpy, huffy, ill-humored, ill-natured, ill-tempered, irascible, irritable, peevish, pettish, petulant, querulous, rude, snappish, snappy, splenetic, testy, touchy, waspish; battling, fighting, warring
You seem upset ever since you posted in the thread about the intense discrimination and oppression against white men in our society.
 

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
You seem upset ever since you posted in the thread about the intense discrimination and oppression against white men in our society.
not upset my mate. I understand difference of opinion.
Yourself and bucky have attempted a dictatorship.
Your desire to win an argument exposes your personalities. The personality flaws you display and techniques you use to win arguments is the problem. These same attitudes (lack of understanding difference of opinion) are the key to solving half of our problems in society. Far from being upset, I'm scoffing at your ignorance and hypocrisy.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
not upset my mate. I understand difference of opinion.
Yourself and bucky have attempted a dictatorship.
Your desire to win an argument exposes your personalities. The personality flaws you display and techniques you use to win arguments is the problem. These same attitudes (lack of understanding difference of opinion) are the key to solving half of our problems in society. Far from being upset, I'm scoffing at your ignorance and hypocrisy.
Lol dictatorship.

Poor oppressed white guy.
 
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