autopots coco grow question on canna coco nutrients

i just got some autopots it will be my first grow with them. i bought the canna coco a+b and calmag to go with it, my question is what additives should i use with the coco a + b, if any. i was looking at the cannaboost, cannazym and pk 13/14, do i need them all? they are expensive, if i could just get 1 or 2 of them which should i get? other advice also welcome anyone whos used auto pots id also appreciate any advice thanks

Getcrunk said:

i just got some autopots it will be my first grow with them. i bought the canna coco a+b and calmag to go with it, my question is what additives should i use with the coco a + b, if any. i was looking at the cannaboost, cannazym and pk 13/14, do i need them all? they are expensive, if i could just get 1 or 2 of them which should i get? other advice also welcome anyone whos used auto pots id also appreciate any advice thanks

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5yrs using canna.

I use A/B, calcium and magnesium, PK1314. (Recently ditched ZYM and Rhizotonic)

Autopots maybe a little hard to handle with coco.

Aren't they a gravity fed hydro setup?

Coco ideally likes to be drain to waste as coco over time produces K which can quickly become toxic.

You may have to feed at 20% normal feeding strength once a week to combat the K.

You don't really need any of the extras bottles.

Sometimes you can see a P deficiency and that's when I add PK1314.


J

jondamon said:

5yrs using canna.

I use A/B, calcium and magnesium, PK1314. (Recently ditched ZYM and Rhizotonic)

Autopots maybe a little hard to handle with coco.

Aren't they a gravity fed hydro setup?

Coco ideally likes to be drain to waste as coco over time produces K which can quickly become toxic.

You may have to feed at 20% normal feeding strength once a week to combat the K.

You don't really need any of the extras bottles.

Sometimes you can see a P deficiency and that's when I add PK1314.


J

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yeah they are a bottom feeding system, the rootball all grows to the very bottom and sucks up the water and feed, i will be flushing occassionally as i have researched growing in them for quite some time before buying them. thats what i was thinking just going with the pk 13/14 for flowering. id prefer to keep it as simple as possible. every grow ive read about with the autopots was in coco, i found a couple people do it and soil and there were overwatering problems as the soil stayed so wet and coco drys out alot better, ill be doing 30-50% perlite with the coco, also. im just going with the pk 13/14 i think thanks for the input

if i could only get one it would be the PK. next is boost then cannazym.
Boost is too expensive though. I use Budxl instead of boost. it's about half the price and seems to be the same.
I use autopots too. Been using them for almost 5 years. Last year I tried without them and just used dtw but now they are back. Got 16 in flower now.
I don't turn on the valve until flower. Until then I drain2waste and keep an eye on runoff ppm. After they have been hooked up for a few weeks you should take them out and give them a good feed/water from the top with a lot of runoff. Check the runoff to be sure the ppm is not rising. I normally do that at about 4 weeks and at about 8.
Run with nutes in the light range...lighter than what Canna says in the chart
Watch for signs of salt buildup

jondamon is an excellent source of info for coco. I'll try to help with your autopots if I can

i have a EC meter no ppm im not sure the conversion. my plan was to start them (clones) in 1 trade gallon pots filled with the same coco/perlite mix and veg them in there about 3-4 weeks and just top feed, then transplant them into the autopots and top water until the roots pop through then fire it up. about what EC should i start with, at this time after i transfer from veg to flower and fire it up?

EC is better. it's universal
that sounds like a good plan except waiting for the roots to pop through. you should be able to fire em up about a week after you transplant. you just need time for the roots to start heading down. usually I water it real good that first time like the instructions say. then when it's ready for more I turn the valves on.
Your EC will be strain dependent. Mine are a bit sensitive so I go into flower at about 1.2 EC and it never goes above 1.6

ok well thanks i bought some pk 13/14 off ebay so within a couple weeks ill have everything up and running, i want to create a grow journal to help with problems that may come as i go i hope you both will check it out thanks

do you have a grow journal with your autopots?

no... no journal. i'm not responsible enough

what are you growing?

EvlMunkee said:

EC is better. it's universal
that sounds like a good plan except waiting for the roots to pop through. you should be able to fire em up about a week after you transplant. you just need time for the roots to start heading down. usually I water it real good that first time like the instructions say. then when it's ready for more I turn the valves on.
Your EC will be strain dependent. Mine are a bit sensitive so I go into flower at about 1.2 EC and it never goes above 1.6

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This is solid advice.

I very rarely exceed 1.6 EC myself DTW.

initially I would air on the side of caution.

Light feeding on the canna nutrient calculator is usually a good starting block.

My EC levels DTW are generally.
Source water 0.2EC
Seeds/clones 0.8
VEG 1.0
Later veg 1.0-1.2
Stretch 1.4
Flower setting 1.4
Mid flower 1.6
Late flower 1.2
Last 2 weeks or so 0.8.

No flush.

Every couple of weeks I hit them with a 1.2-1.5EC CalMag solution to rebuffer the coco.

Watch your Ph with the auto pots as coco can play havoc with ph in a recirculating style system.

I'll keep looking in on you with your journal.

Just hit me up a link when you've created one.



J

EvlMunkee said:

what are you growing?

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im not sure yet, ill be getting clones from a grower friend he has alot of strains, im not sure what ill end up yet, im going to wait until everythings set up so i dont have any suprises

Getcrunk said:

im not sure yet, ill be getting clones from a grower friend he has alot of strains, im not sure what ill end up yet, im going to wait until everythings set up so i dont have any suprises

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well good luck with it, i'll watch for your journal

Getcrunk said:

i just got some autopots it will be my first grow with them. i bought the canna coco a+b and calmag to go with it, my question is what additives should i use with the coco a + b, if any. i was looking at the cannaboost, cannazym and pk 13/14, do i need them all? they are expensive, if i could just get 1 or 2 of them which should i get? other advice also welcome anyone whos used auto pots id also appreciate any advice thanks

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rizo tonic growth enhancer from gh roots xl medi one house and garden amino treatment floralicious bud xl rhino drive and resonator few other things i play with but that will get u some sic as buds man