Atheism

morgentaler

Well-Known Member
I said a goal, no one can achieve it. That is why we need Christ.

And if it weren't for fractional reserve banking I think capitalism could support even the most challenged person very comfortably. It's principles would not be cutthroat like they have become, because for the past 96 years we have had to compete against the rate of inflation/depression to stay afloat.
Does Christ have a degree in economics?
It might be a bit out of date.
 

morgentaler

Well-Known Member
The history of the money changers is many pages long, maybe you should read it first
Let's see. It portrays Jesus's act with the money lenders as a verified historical act, and then babbles on about history without a single citation or bibliography.

No, I'm not going to read any more of that baseless twaddle.

If you are going to try and pass something off as academically accurate, then present something acceptable to an academic environment.

Bibliographies aren't just for show.
 

8deez8

Active Member
Great. Ask the vatican to release it's funds to the poor.

Start a campaign to take back the millions of dollars your religious leaders collect on TV to pay for hookers and mansions.
We are living in the last days. Many Christians like myself are aware that folks like George W. Bush have taken secret oaths blaspheming the Holy Spirit for their Skull and Bones initiations, etc... George Bush used to be very well spoken, then he started playing the "dumb Christian" role. He is a FAKE CHRISTIAN, just like Billy Graham. They have blasphemed the Holy Spirit in their initiations, and are sworn against God Almighty.
This is just an example. All high ranking politicians are aware of the REALITY of the secret world governments and are trying to get in line for the sake of their family, etc... Don't be so naive
 

8deez8

Active Member
Let's see. It portrays Jesus's act with the money lenders as a verified historical act, and then babbles on about history without a single citation or bibliography.

No, I'm not going to read any more of that baseless twaddle.

If you are going to try and pass something off as academically accurate, then present something acceptable to an academic environment.

Bibliographies aren't just for show.
There are 14 citations, on the very same page at the bottom--citations that span 100 years in publication dates.
 
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PadawanBater

Guest
ABSOlutely personal evidence, something Im sure Ill never be able to relate like it feels, but that's just it, you have to have it in your heart.
...notice the pattern.

How do you people not understand that you cannot base beliefs off of personal experiences?

How many of you can remember your license plate number or your dl number? - But it's OK to think you felt something then attribute whatever it was to God, and that's that. That's essentially what your belief comes down to - "I don't know what it was, so I'm going to say it was God"

:golf clap:
 

8deez8

Active Member
That's essentially what your belief comes down to
Nope. I didn't accept Christ until I had spent months researching history, secret world governments and the occult. Then I began to seek a loving God that created pot for me but Who is being stifled more every day. Yes even then I wasn't fully a Christian until I had the "personal experience". I hope you all seek Him and have one as well.
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
That's good to know about your tolerance, Mr. Meds.
Not everyone is blessed with IT.
How is your religious disorganization campaign coming along there, Mr. Underwear?
Is IT bringing you happiness and fulfillment?


IT seems to us that sunshine merely wished you well (granted, it was in the name of something you do not believe can exist), and in return, you tried to bite her neck like a little old lady in red.

There must be bad blood We are unaware of.

We invite the young preacher boys inside, too.
Sunshine knew what she was doing, it wasn't just wishing well. If that's what it was she could have said happy holidays or hi or whatever but it was a bible quote thrown up in an athiest thread.

No hippie I don't get why you don't understand yet, there is no bad blood, I don't even know who sunshine is. For almost the entire history of the major religions we have now questioning them has meant a death sentence, they've gone unchecked, unquestioned, and taken over.

Now that people aren't decapitated, stoned to death, or outcast for speaking out it's time they all do. Maybe in another couple hundred years it will make a difference but I don't expect any now not even from one person. All I hope for is to make the tiniest bit of difference over the long haul.

When people do nothing at all it just lets the thing continue unchecked and given how much worse it's gotten in recent years that's proof we shouldn't just sit by.

I don't do it for fun or because of a chip on my shoulder or because I want to seem cool or smart.

I do this at my own personal cost knowing full well it will never benefit me in any other way than the piece of mind that at least I tried. There is a huge personal cost btw... Alienating yourself from 80% of the population is something that always goes well.
 

Woodstock.Hippie

New Member
I am impressed by your devotion to the ideals in which you believe, and find it quite admirable indeed.

IT is not easy defending your beliefs.


We share many values in common, however time is short and there is much to prepare.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
...notice the pattern.

How do you people not understand that you cannot base beliefs off of personal experiences?

How many of you can remember your license plate number or your dl number? - But it's OK to think you felt something then attribute whatever it was to God, and that's that. That's essentially what your belief comes down to - "I don't know what it was, so I'm going to say it was God"

:golf clap:
The same reason why anecdotal evidence is not given the same weight in court. It's an OPINION, a LAYMAN'S OPINION, based on nothing but personal feelings.

NEXT!!!!
 

sunshine1754

Active Member
You guys will never realize God by asking questions all the time. You need to have Him to find Him. You have to follow His laws and do good by Him. I think it's funny that because we live in modern society the idea that God exsits is still questioned. That because we have advanced in science that means that God isn't real. That man is so great he could build this world by himself without the help of God. I see Gods work in everything, this is His world and it's His laws if you don't follow them you won't ever find Him.
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
You guys will never realize God by asking questions all the time. You need to have Him to find Him. You have to follow His laws and do good by Him. I think it's funny that because we live in modern society the idea that God exsits is still questioned. That because we have advanced in science that means that God isn't real. That man is so great he could build this world by himself without the help of God. I see Gods work in everything, this is His world and it's His laws if you don't follow them you won't ever find Him.
Ok now, you are just trolling. If you want to participate in the thread you are more than welcome but you should ***participate*** in the discussion, not just spout whatever pops into your head at random.

I've addressed you personally a couple of times and you still haven't responded. Not once, not to anything. Nor answered any question I asked.

Nobody here is searching for a god, that would be a waste of your very limited lifespan.
 

sunshine1754

Active Member
Ok now, you are just trolling. If you want to participate in the thread you are more than welcome but you should ***participate*** in the discussion, not just spout whatever pops into your head at random.

I've addressed you personally a couple of times and you still haven't responded. Not once, not to anything. Nor answered any question I asked.

Nobody here is searching for a god, that would be a waste of your very limited lifespan.
The whole point of life is to return to God. I choose not to answer just as you choose to ignore God.
 

8deez8

Active Member
You all claim you want evidence.

If you would even skim through "the history of the money changers" you would realize how gone our world is, how poor and blind mankind is, and how correct Bibilical prophecy is!

All our assassinated presidents were killed by the same bankers who helped benefit DuPont by making cannabis illegal worldwide, as it potentially threatened their economic stranglehold.
edited to add link: http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
I am impressed by your devotion to the ideals in which you believe, and find it quite admirable indeed.

IT is not easy defending your beliefs.


We share many values in common, however time is short and there is much to prepare.
Time is short and there is much to prepare? Prepare for what?

Here is my version of time is short. This will drop a bomb in this thread if people actually view it.

People have claimed time and time again that Christians today aren't in any way responsible for the evils of yesterday...

If you watch this one documentary start to finish (It's in several parts you need to watch the whole thing.) without freaking out and turning it off, without panicking and thinking I am some lunatic anti jewish guy or whatever, then you will start to understand how important it is we all stand up against the evil power religion holds over us. This is not anti jewish propaganda from some kkk freaks this is actual historically correct data about a religious war going on to this day, enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0248019CAE261C1D&search_query=occupation+101

Save the screaming and ranting and calling people names, it only shows you didn't watch it. I'm no more against Jewish people than I am against Captain Crunch. (Well maybe I love captain crunch more but it tastes so good.)

What you have is everything laid out there about how religions (not just one) but two are corrupted to further some unscrupulous gains and how our government is manipulated by them also.
 
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