Arresting fat kids parents

Water has pharmaceuticals in it.Look it up.People flush their drugs down the toilet,and the treatment plants do not remove these substances.Do I think it's all accidental?No.
But reading labels is well and good.The problem is, in America, junk food tends to be cheaper.And even some of the foods you'd think were healthier choices can have corn syrup in them.I was rather shocked to find the kidney beans I put in my chili did.It's in meat.It's in canned fruits.Anything that would have had plain sugar in it in the past usually has corn syrup in it today.
It's easy to blame the cost of insurance on diabetics and the overweight;they're a convenient scapegoat.But the simple truth of the matter is that health insurance and medical costs in this country are out of control because of greed.
Most kids are getting less exercise because gym programs are being cut, more socialization online,more sedentary activities are popular right now.Many parents micromanage their kids free time.Many have seen so many horror stories about children being molested or kidnapped,they're afraid to let little Billy ride his bike down to the park alone.Families indulge in less outdoor activities because many parents are forced to work more hours just to make ends meet.
IMO, putting your children on adhd medicine to get them to settle down because you're afraid to discipline them properly is poisoning them far more severely than letting them have a cupcake.

litteringand... said:

I agree sometimes kids need a shocker a spanking. This isn't about liberty and it isn't about breaking up families and stalinism. This is about me breaking my back to pay for some type 2 diabetic to raise more type 2 diabetics that will have medical problems I have to pay for pure and simple stone cold economics. When I am paying for it it is my fucking business. how people discapline or talk to their kids is none of my concern. However poisoning your kids a making tons of worthless morbidly obese wastes of space is my concern. Yes HFCs are in a lot of things, but thats why you have to get off your ass and read the label before you give it to your child. beesides what happened to water? water has no HFCs they don't need more than a cup or 2 of juice a day. vegetables don't have HFCs chicken and so on. It's a choice parents make to say fuck it I need to make this meal fast.

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spanking indeed! no better way to stoop your kid becoming a spoilt little shit. my mum told me not to touch the AGA, i touched the AGA and got bad burns, i learnt that mum was kinda right there. same with dad, he told me not to break glasses when i got angry/upset etc, i carried on, he slapped the crap right outta my buttocks! i certainly didn't try that again when i got upset.

anyone that will work with their kid, trweat him, play his game, in order to calm him down, well they should die! what was it a watched recently, film, i forget what, no wait, it was the TV show The Boondocks, gramps walks into the supermarket, mum can't control her kid "i want it i want it i want it" mum doesn't know what to do so gramnps gives her his blet and she beats the crap outta him. job done!

When I was a kid in school there was always one fat kid. Now I see the kids going to school and like 40% are fat. Eww gross

CrackerJax said:

The key to spanking is it has to be done early.

Now I was pretty advanced as a small child. I always wanted to broaden my horizons.

I can still remember taking off from my Mom and crossing the street by myself. On that occasion my mom was very correct to give me two quick and firm spanks on my arse after she got a hold of me.
I'll never forget it..... I was 3 weeks old, but it feels like yesterday. I still can't cross the street without calling my Mom on the phone and asking if it's all right. I don't know what I'll do when she passes into oblivion.

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3 weeks? I hope your being sarcastic.

Indeed I was.....

litteringand... said:

This isn't about liberty and it isn't about breaking up families and stalinism. This is about me breaking my back to pay for some type 2 diabetic to raise more type 2 diabetics that will have medical problems I have to pay for pure and simple stone cold economics. When I am paying for it it is my fucking business.

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and why is it that you are paying the freight for the failures and bad decisions of others? the concept that we are all morally responsible for the welfare of those around us is ancient, but the idea that we should be legally responsible for the financial burden of the whole of society is the invention of those seeking to further their power over the masses through the expansion of the welfare state. as more and more of society is taken care of by your tax dollars, the political animals in control of those funds grow their power base and their fiefdoms to match that need. you may be paying to treat those fat little bastards, but the benefit of that investment all goes to government in the form of dominion.

we demand some control over what our tax dollars pay for and rightfully so, we want to see that the fruits of our labors aren't just thrown down some rabbit hole. regulating the actions of the recipients of that largess seems to be the most rational way to ensure our government's generosity is not wasted. the problem with that idea is that the benefits of that control over the beneficiaries of the nanny state do not go to further the welfare of the people, but to strengthen the power of government over those they are supposed to represent and to expand their sphere of influence. our desire to control the funds stolen from us by our non-responsive government has evolved into a neo-feudal system, with petty bureaucrats holding sway over a growing segment of society in exchange for the tax dollars they are able to wring out of those still able to pay. at the top of the heap is a bloated federal bureaucracy, using force of arms and threat of incarceration to portion out fiefdoms and hand them out to those who can steal the most revenue from their subjects.

There are sick sick parents who should probably be forced to take some classes or get some kind of help and or be nagged at every time they go to the doctor or something but I don't agree that anyone should have the right to actually take the kids away period. The parents need help and education but then if they decide to not change it is supposedly a free country...
Or used to sort of be a free country...
Or we had a hint of freedom somewhere in our past.

Hey I know!!! Parents with fat kids could trade them in for new kids and get "free" money from the government on some sort of excess weight sliding scale. The progam could be called "Cash for Tubbies" . Just think of the jobs this would create!!

Yeah, "Cash For Chunkers".... fat people in general just gross me out.

Cheech Wizard said:

Yeah, "Cash For Chunkers".... fat people in general just gross me out.

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Maybe we should burn them for fuel?

meanwhile a message from your cooperative/government sponsored news agencies:


Public Health Leaders Propose Soda Tax


By JOSEPH BROWNSTEIN
ABC News Medical Unit
Sept. 17, 2009


Several of the nation's leading health experts are calling for a tax on soda as a means of curbing America's obesity-epidemic.

buahaha!

pay up government health care supporters

I know I feel like a dick.... they just gross me out. I saw one fatty family the other night when I was with my girl eating at a local restaurant.. They actually had to add chairs to the booth cause none of them could fit in the booth... meanwhile they are stuffing their fat faces with food and eating like slobs... so nasty.... I mean, c'mon, really? It was nasty for other diners to witness. It literally made me sick watching them but I couldnt help but watch them

Green Cross said:

Maybe we should burn them for fuel?

meanwhile a message from your cooperative/government sponsored news agencies:


Public Health Leaders Propose Soda Tax


By JOSEPH BROWNSTEIN
ABC News Medical Unit
Sept. 17, 2009


Several of the nation's leading health experts are calling for a tax on soda as a means of curbing America's obesity-epidemic.

buahaha!

pay up government health care supporters

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The "soda tax" was originally included in one of the proposed health care bills before Congress. It was removed. Apparently "several of the nation's leading health experts" think it should be added back in.

But, really, what do health experts know, anyway?

Who the hell do you people think you are?
Mind your own freekin' buisness.

Or, First remove the plank from your own eye.
Before you remove the speck from your brothers eye.

Katatawnic said:

When they start taking kids away from their parents for not feeding them, then and only then would it be even a shred of rational to think of taking them away for being fed.

My kids had snacks and treats, in moderation. Yes, it did horrify and disgust me to watch many other parents "comfort" their kids with junk food instead of hugs, watching their kids become fat as a direct result, which is far from "comforting" for those kids' lives. However, it's not my place to decide whether or not others are "fit" to be parents because they don't raise their kids the same way as I raised mine.

True abuse is the only appropriate time to step in and tell others how to raise their children, much less take them away. I'm referring to abuse that can potentially turn a person into a sociopath, or otherwise potnetially ruin that child's life in one way or another, or even the lives of others at the hands of the abused child. Molestation, physical abuse (not spankings), emotional/mental abuse (not raising one's voice), etc.

Just as people have the right to discipline their children, people also have the right to feed them. Even over-feed them. I don't agree with stuffing junk into a child's mouth to keep him/her happy, but it's not a crime.

IMNSHO, what's worse than the gov't taking on the role of "babysitter" is those who push for this to continue, much less to increase. I'm sick of being told what I can and can't put into my own body, and now I'd be told what I can and can't put into my kids' bodies if they were still minors?! RE: food, not drugs or alcohol?! Unacceptable.

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One could argue whether a bag of chips or pack of ding-dongs really qualifies as "food".

Endangering the welfare of a child IS a crime. Obesity is dangerous. A child can't provide for themselves, and therefore relies on the parent to feed them. If the parent fed them nothing but garden soil, would you have a problem with that?

FYI: parents DO lose their children for not feeding them. Sometimes, the children DIE because the parent didn't feed them. If the child is lucky enough to survive, the state will take them away. Starving your children is also a crime.

Katatawnic said:

There's a tremendous difference between "nothing but garden soil" and junk food

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You're right. The garden soil might actually contain some nutrients, whereas junk foods do not.

Sports injuries are ACCIDENTAL. Overfeeding your child to the point of morbid obesity is NOT.

Therein lies the difference.

You can't say "oops, I guess I forgot to feed my kid for a month or so. MY BAD!", Just as you can't say "Gee, I didn't realize 5000 calories a day was too much for a 4 year old. Little Johnny sure does cry when he doesn't get his dozen glazed donuts for breakfast."

Parents have to take responsibility. Shrugging your shoulders and saying "Well, I didn't know", simply doesn't cut it.

Look at this BABY, puffing away on a cigarette. He LIKES them, the parents say - He cries when they don't let him have a smoke, so they keep giving him cigarettes.



Now look at this teenager, who weighed in at HALF A TON before undergoing surgery to reduce his weight. Why is he so obese? His mother overfed him (and admits that she did!) because she lost a child before he was born, and felt that somehow she was making up for the loss of that child by giving this one everything he wanted (to eat).

I still don't blame anyone and still see no need to throw the parent in jail and take the kid away. Doing that only hurts everyone.

Your kid is 1,000 pounds because you love him so much? Lets make love illegal punishable by death on the spot meted out by judgmental police officers!!

NoDrama said:

I still don't blame anyone and still see no need to throw the parent in jail and take the kid away. Doing that only hurts everyone.

Your kid is 1,000 pounds because you love him so much? Lets make love illegal punishable by death on the spot meted out by judgmental police officers!!

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Yeah, it's nobody's fault... let's go with that. Let's not take responsibility for our own actions, but instead, claim complete ignorance! Whee!

Her kid was 1000 lbs, not because she "loved him so much" but because she was trying to fill some hole inside herself caused by a previous loss. That isn't "love", it's mental illness.

doobnVA said:

Yeah, it's nobody's fault... let's go with that. Let's not take responsibility for our own actions, but instead, claim complete ignorance! Whee!

Her kid was 1000 lbs, not because she "loved him so much" but because she was trying to fill some hole inside herself caused by a previous loss. That isn't "love", it's mental illness.

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Lets throw all the people with mental illness in jail.