Exactly, things take time. I don't mind you jumping on the thread cobby! I appreciate it.
I'm not really enthusiastic, if I was enthusiastic I would would buy the lights. I'm not going to because it seems like more of a pain to deal with in the end. This thread can be closed. I'll linger for awhile
not enthusiastic!? so you just wanted to make a quick buck off everyone?
Is that some kind of IEC/NEC Regulation
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My beef if you really want to call it that lol, is that there is far more to making and selling products than you clearly believe. Cobkits who "actually" deals in this area has given you a breakdown yet you still want to argue the toss...
If a quick buck means, paying 5k upfront, receiving everything except the cobs, because Citizen doesn't have enough cobs in stock & neither does their private distributor, CDI. So I would have to wait 6-8 weeks for the version 6 cobs. Meaning I would have 100's of heatsinks, cob holders, pads, and reflectors just wasting away until some giant boat drops them off to customs where a nice hefty fee awaits because as you would know, Uncle Sam doesn't use a finger or oil when he jams it in your rear. Then after all that time, I could maybe make 500$ per 100 units after paying web development/hosting/domain/paypal/cc fee/and the government
Thanks. I have had my own company for several decades, so I actually do know what it takes. I doubt you do though.clap your hands if you have any business experience. anyone.
Seriously, "wholesale operations with larger amounts of labor"? Da fuq? It's only 150 pieces which someone else apparently assembles for him. Inventory? Again, it's only 150 pieces and he only does this "deal" when he knows for sure he sells them all.
Then if you own a business, you should relate then, instead of fume hate, just my thought ya know...
so you dont use the lights and your not gonna make any money... seems like a waste of time. now go cry moreIf a quick buck means, paying 5k upfront, receiving everything except the cobs, because Citizen doesn't have enough cobs in stock & neither does their private distributor, CDI. So I would have to wait 6-8 weeks for the version 6 cobs. Meaning I would have 100's of heatsinks, cob holders, pads, and reflectors just wasting away until some giant boat drops them off to customs where a nice hefty fee awaits because as you would know, Uncle Sam doesn't use a finger or oil when he jams it in your rear. Then after all that time, I could maybe make 500$ per 100 units after paying web development/hosting/domain/paypal/cc fee/and the government
If that seems like a quick buck, have at it bud! I'll PM you my contacts
Not trying to instigate anything here, but FWIW, I completely understand what you're saying and the original point you're trying to make. Somehow, everyone misconstrued your valid point of being able to save money on simple DIY as attacking him and his business model, and all the whiteknights come charging in arguing invalid points that have nothing to do with what you're trying to say.
How much would you charge for you to build me some?
Since I own a business I'm perhaps more wary of scammers. If a real company was selling these things for $45 I'd have no problems with that. Perhaps I'd argue for a $40 version without the light wasting reflector on it and for using a better quality COB that would actually warrant putting it solo on a cooler (say the 1825).
Hmmm I see myself as more of a dark knight ahaha.
By this logic, MIcrosoft, Apple, Dell, etc would have been "scammy" when they started in their garages. Leadership makes a company scammy, not the model. Another example is MLM. There is a proper way and an improper way, but it comes down to leadership and management. Or how about Eddie Lampert? His business are all legal, but I would argue he is a complete POS and wouldnt piss on the flames he's creating.
I had a roommate once, still a great friend, who would continue arguing a point even after it was plainly disproved. Only he would know how serious he was, but it was pretty funny. I would get a little frustrated, which was probably his main goal anyway.
