Are these babies ready yet?

I love how people can say they are all ready to go just by looking at a couple of normal pics. They must be some very experienced growers to be able to give such a definate answer by looking at those pics. Seriously though, come on guys, you must know about lookin at the trichs. After all Brick Top did post about it already in like post #12!

i did cut them and they were fine checked with the scope about 50/50 amber/cloudy

i cut all fan leaves and trimmer inner leaves as well, hung them up to dry, then less then 48 hours later they were getting crispy on the outside so they are drying real quick, not sure why i ahve a humidifier and heater, 50% humidity, 70 degrees in the room, dark, etc...

others have been saying it's find and I probably can cure in a day or so, just seems to quick to me, anyone have any thoughts?

Aw you cut?

no fun

You should have let it be.

it was almost there.

oh well.

nice grow though.

LOL funny, it was definitely there, just not sure why it's drying so quick...

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I'm not trying to re-hash the age old debate, just trying to spread some insight about harvest time.

I'd just like to elaborate on bud "ripeness"a bit further.


I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) Recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
OF course we have to remember that there is more to a good high than just THC. At last count there are at least 66 cannabinoids, and we don't know what most of them do.


Now alot of people will tell you that you should harvest based on the colour of your trichomes. But (again, in my opinion) that is far too simplistic and there are too many variables to make that an effective strategy. I've made that point a million times before and i'm not going to re-hash it here, but rest assured there is more to the picture than just trich colour.


A ripe marijuana plant will be filled in, will have an amber tinge to the buds. The pistils should have browned (or orange-d) off and receded into the buds. The seed bracts should be swollen and the trichomes should be sticking straight out with bulbous ends. Also, because you're coming close to the end of plant's life cycle, the leaves should have yellowed off and started to die.

one of my plants, 3 days before chop-chop.


Another very important (imho) reason to let your plants mature is Terpenoid production. Terpenes are responsible for alot of the complex (And enjoyable) flavours that cannabis produces. Some of the most intense flavours are produced on the "downslope" of cannabis's life cycle. My personal experience with this came when i was growing GH cheese. One of the plants i harvested at 8 weeks and it tasted pretty nice and had pretty dense buds. The other i grew until about 9 1/2 weeks and it had most amazing, sour, skunky, delicious taste with rock hard buds.


Here is my interpretation (and maybe exaggeration) of a scenario i see all too often...
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Quote:noob mcboob
I'm a new grower and i've been reading all this great information about when its time to harvest. Theres pictures and everything!!!

Look at my trichs, they look nice and milky with a touch of amber just like the ones in the picture that says its harvest time now!!!


So i just have one question....

Does this look ready to you?
That plant is 4 weeks into 12/12. Granted not all of the trichomes are that far along. And most people arent going to harvest weed that looks like this. But my point with this is that you have to look at the big picture. Stop being so scientific and start being practical.
I'm not anti knowledge, i just cant stand these "rules" that more often than not lead people down the wrong path.
Lets cut through the bullshit and spread good information in a way that is not so absoloute. Or at very least explain the growth stages of cannabis making sure to mention that the pistils should have receded back into the bud before you chop. Regardless of trichome colour.

That was damn insightful and truthfully that's why I cut the plant down cause it looked ready and felt ready to me. It was 9 1/2 weeks in and looking great. As for the drying process there is where my question comes in, can the plants really be done drying and ready to be cured in 3 days of hanging? To me they seem crispy enough on the outside to be put into jars but I'm not sure, that's why I'm asking...

SpruceZeus said:

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I'm not trying to re-hash the age old debate, just trying to spread some insight about harvest time.

I'd just like to elaborate on bud "ripeness"a bit further.


I'm personally of the opinion that 90% of the growers on this site (And probably in general) harvest too early. By letting the plants go a little longer you're ensuring that the've plumped as much as they're going to.
Despite popular opinion to the contrary(and don't fool yourself, the jury is still out on this one) Recent studies have shown ;contrary to what was previously believed, that THC itself (And its predecessor THC-A) are quite guilty of causing the confusion and drowsyness associated with burnout and other cannabinoids (our friend CBN, and a handful of others) to be the catylist (along with THC) to being 'high' rather than 'baked'
Regardless, whether or not theres any substance to the aforementioned study, its easy to get the high you want.
If you want a soaring 'cerebral' high: Get yourself a tropical sativa that contains a high level of THC-V and grow it until it is ripe.
If you want the narcotic couchlock stone, grow a rugged indica until its ripe.
Notice a pattern of growing it until its ripe? Its a really good rule to live by.
OF course we have to remember that there is more to a good high than just THC. At last count there are at least 66 cannabinoids, and we don't know what most of them do.


Now alot of people will tell you that you should harvest based on the colour of your trichomes. But (again, in my opinion) that is far too simplistic and there are too many variables to make that an effective strategy. I've made that point a million times before and i'm not going to re-hash it here, but rest assured there is more to the picture than just trich colour.


A ripe marijuana plant will be filled in, will have an amber tinge to the buds. The pistils should have browned (or orange-d) off and receded into the buds. The seed bracts should be swollen and the trichomes should be sticking straight out with bulbous ends. Also, because you're coming close to the end of plant's life cycle, the leaves should have yellowed off and started to die.

one of my plants, 3 days before chop-chop.


Another very important (imho) reason to let your plants mature is Terpenoid production. Terpenes are responsible for alot of the complex (And enjoyable) flavours that cannabis produces. Some of the most intense flavours are produced on the "downslope" of cannabis's life cycle. My personal experience with this came when i was growing GH cheese. One of the plants i harvested at 8 weeks and it tasted pretty nice and had pretty dense buds. The other i grew until about 9 1/2 weeks and it had most amazing, sour, skunky, delicious taste with rock hard buds.


Here is my interpretation (and maybe exaggeration) of a scenario i see all too often...
Quote:
Quote:noob mcboob
I'm a new grower and i've been reading all this great information about when its time to harvest. Theres pictures and everything!!!

Look at my trichs, they look nice and milky with a touch of amber just like the ones in the picture that says its harvest time now!!!


So i just have one question....

Does this look ready to you?
That plant is 4 weeks into 12/12. Granted not all of the trichomes are that far along. And most people arent going to harvest weed that looks like this. But my point with this is that you have to look at the big picture. Stop being so scientific and start being practical.
I'm not anti knowledge, i just cant stand these "rules" that more often than not lead people down the wrong path.
Lets cut through the bullshit and spread good information in a way that is not so absoloute. Or at very least explain the growth stages of cannabis making sure to mention that the pistils should have receded back into the bud before you chop. Regardless of trichome colour.

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can the plants really be done drying and ready to be cured in 3 days of hanging?

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sure they can.
Going by other peoples timetables is always a bad idea.
If you think your buds are dry enough to start curing, by all means start curing.
I know alot of people say dry for 7 days until all your stems snap. I think thats crazy.
Personally I dry until the bud is dry and will smoke in a joint, but the stems still have some softness to them (usually about 3 days). But I dont so much 'burp" my jars as leave them open for hours. Then close them until the buds are moist again, then open, then closed.
It takes about 2 weeks for my bud the regain that wonderful flavour and odour and lose the hard green colour.



Everyone has their own way, try things until you find something that works for you!

I would say your buds were not ready. They still looked pretty skinny to me. That plant is not ready untill it fattens ridiculously. Thats when A PLANT IS reaching ripeness. Even if my plants are ccloudy with a few amber I let them go. They demo above is a prime example. The buds swell like crazy and the pistils appear to receed into the plant matter when they are ready. Even if im 75% turned pistills I will not harvest, until those buds have swollen and finished their last run. Resin production increases also at this time, and the complexity of smells. "most" and I use that word losely strains that go over 8 weeks will be losing and yellowing leaves and still not be ready. Ive had terminal buds with no fan leaves late into flower swell up and produce more crystals. MY FRIENDS. LET. THESE.PLANTS.RIPEN. NOTHING SUCKS MORE THAN UNDERRIPENED BUDS, BUT SOME ARE GOOD TAKEN EARLY. get what you can from that

SpruceZeus said:

sure they can.
Going by other peoples timetables is always a bad idea.
If you think your buds are dry enough to start curing, by all means start curing.
I know alot of people say dry for 7 days until all your stems snap. I think thats crazy.
Personally I dry until the bud is dry and will smoke in a joint, but the stems still have some softness to them (usually about 3 days). But I dont so much 'burp" my jars as leave them open for hours. Then close them until the buds are moist again, then open, then closed.
It takes about 2 weeks for my bud the regain that wonderful flavour and odour and lose the hard green colour.

Everyone has their own way, try things until you find something that works for you!

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Thats basically how I do it^^. A bud can seem dry but once you put it away it draws the remaining moisture from the stem so it then needs to be aired again and I find that is a great way to dry it.

SpruceZeus said:

sure they can.
Going by other peoples timetables is always a bad idea.
If you think your buds are dry enough to start curing, by all means start curing.
I know alot of people say dry for 7 days until all your stems snap. I think thats crazy.
Personally I dry until the bud is dry and will smoke in a joint, but the stems still have some softness to them (usually about 3 days). But I dont so much 'burp" my jars as leave them open for hours. Then close them until the buds are moist again, then open, then closed.
It takes about 2 weeks for my bud the regain that wonderful flavour and odour and lose the hard green colour.

Everyone has their own way, try things until you find something that works for you!

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Yep he is right its all about your own personal likes and dislikes, find out what works for you.